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Elon Musk Says Twitter Deal 'Temporarily On Hold Over Spam' (theverge.com) 138

Third Position shares a report from The Verge: Elon Musk says his deal to buy Twitter is "temporarily on hold" after the social network reported that false or spam accounts comprised less than 5 percent of its 226 million monetizable daily active users. The Tesla CEO, who offered to buy twitter for $44 billion, tweeted a link to a May 2nd Reuters report on Twitter's filing, saying he wants to see the company's calculations.

"Twitter deal temporarily on hold pending details supporting calculation that spam/fake accounts do indeed represent less than 5% of users," Musk tweeted. However, in a follow-up tweet, he added that he's "still committed to [the] acquisition," suggesting that it'll proceed after Twitter provides satisfactory information on its numbers.
Slashdot reader Excelcia shared a similar report from the BBC, which cited analysts speculating "he could be seeking to renegotiate the price or even walk away from the takeover."

"One analyst, as quoted in the story, suggests that 'Many will view this as Musk using this Twitter filing/spam accounts as a way to get out of this deal in a vastly changing market,'" writes Excelcia. "Shares have dropped another 10% since the announcement."
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Elon Musk Says Twitter Deal 'Temporarily On Hold Over Spam'

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  • So this will involve some sort of audit of the Twitter user base to resolve how bots distort the figures. If Twitter's figures are legitimate then Musk will acquire a large, audited user base. Otherwise, if a large fraction of the user base is really a bunch of spam bots etc. then Musk can either walk away due to misrepresentation or renegotiate terms, including price.

    Well played.

    • by Holi ( 250190 )
      So Musk lied about his reasoning., Nothing illegal about that, but it really looks more like a stock play then anything else. The man has the wealth to illegally move markets, this will not be the first time he get investigated by the SEC over his use of twitter in stock plays.
      • by MrDoh! ( 71235 )
        Aye, this is the sort of stuff that should be sorted out in wood paneled rooms, not on twitter itself. Twitter would be within it's rights to cause havoc to the SEC for Musk trying to reduce the share price in this manner one would think, it's not something everyone can do (and I thought there were gag orders/things to stop exactly this? NOTHING can be said, good or bad at certain times).
      • Nothing illegal about that, but it really looks more like a stock play then anything else.

        The first half of your sentence does not match the second half. Lying for the purposes of stock manipulation could very well be illegal.

      • TWTR is down almost 10% today because of this "announcement".

        I really hope the SEC tears Musk a new one over this bullshit.

  • Ohhhhhhhhh (Score:5, Insightful)

    by AvitarX ( 172628 ) <me@@@brandywinehundred...org> on Friday May 13, 2022 @03:58PM (#62530882) Journal

    So it is about money?

    I thought this was about preserving a place for free speech...

    • Twitter hasn't been profitable in 8 years and his "ideas" for making it profitable are laughable at best and nonsensical at worst.

      If he's serious about buying it then this is about exercising power. Similar to how Randolf Herst started the War of 1812.

      But it could jut be a troll. He could just be having fun with us.

      It's also possible his financing fell though, as a lot of it was coming from crypto. Billionaires never spend their own money. You don't get rich by spending your own money, you get ri
      • by Petrini ( 49261 )

        Similar to how Randolf Herst started the War of 1812

        William Randolph Hearst was born in 1863. Maybe look into that again.

  • by phantomfive ( 622387 ) on Friday May 13, 2022 @04:02PM (#62530892) Journal

    He would be remiss if he didn't do due diligence. Then possibly followed up by better negotiation for price.

    I have to say though, it would be hilarious if Twitter turned out to be 90% spam accounts. All those followers of Donald Trump that he thought he had.

  • Everyone did. The question is, is he negotiating for a better terms or is this another one of his patented trolls.

    I don't think it's a good idea for one person to have as much power as he does. He can literally upend large segments of our lives and economy on a whim. Look at what Vladimir Putin has done. One old man dying of liver cancer has caused a death of tens of thousands and billions in property damage. We give too much power to too few people to make decisions about our lives.
    • No, this gets into what Twiitter has been reporting to shareholders and affects valuation of business. It's not a matter of "everyone knows" this or that. Consequences of lying about it are dire for publicly traded company.

      • I call bullshit (Score:4, Interesting)

        by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Friday May 13, 2022 @04:42PM (#62531026)
        Twitter has been caught multiple times overstating actual users. All of this should have been worked out before an offer was made and accept it. He's clearly trying to pull out. The only question is why? Is he trying to negotiate a better price because his financing fell through, or was this all just his usual showmanship crap.

        Either way it affects our lives. Do you like having one man have that much control over your life? Does that fill you with confidence and a sense of ease? From my part it makes me nervous to think that at any moment one guy could triggered that much damage.
        • Either way it affects our lives. Do you like having one man have that much control over your life? Does that fill you with confidence and a sense of ease? From my part it makes me nervous to think that at any moment one guy could triggered that much damage.

          As the old saying goes, if Caesar doesn't rule, someone else will. Given that reality, I'd prefer to be ruled by people like Musk than people like you.

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            • until they're not super rich anymore. They can be rich, but when money crosses the threshold of "buying nice things" into raw, unfettered power that's where you step in.

              The purpose of wealth redistribution isn't to make things "fair", it's to prevent crazy ass oligarchs from losing their minds and plunging us into a dark ages. We've literally got a bitter, angry dying old man in Russia sitting on 6000 nukes. Any time he feels like it he can end the human race. We had Mao over in China starve his populat
          • there's no reason to suppose that somebody has to rule over us. We figured out democracy ages ago. We can rule ourselves.

            Just because you want to be ruled over doesn't mean the rest of us do. I'll take the consensus of my community over the whims of some random yahoo who's name was picked out of a hat by lady luck any day of the week.
        • He's clearly trying to pull out. The only question is why? Is he trying to negotiate a better price because his financing fell through

          He's trying to negotiate a better price because his net worth just got punched in the dick. The big automakers are about to eat Tesla's lunch and everyone knows it. The F150 Lightning is about to fucking destroy everyone and everything else. The vast majority of preorders are not just from new Ford customers, but also new Truck customers.

        • by splutty ( 43475 )

          If your life is Twitter, you have bigger problems than Musk owning it or not.

  • by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Friday May 13, 2022 @04:13PM (#62530926)

    Complains the man who admitted to using bots to push Tesla.

    • Telsa isn't in the business of selling cars to bots. There's a difference between using a bot to push a message, and claiming a bot as a monetizable customer to a business.

  • Twitter has shitty user engagement numbers. The majority of users rarely or never tweet [pewresearch.org], and about 80% of the traffic is generated by only 10% of the userbase.

    None of this information was a mystery when Musk made his offer. He's just miffed that the market went pear-shaped and is making excuses to go back to the negotiating table.

    Personally, I'd rather have seen him dump his spare change into R&D on cheaper BEVs, but hey, it's his money and I guess the planet will just have to get by with a few more p

  • by DrXym ( 126579 ) on Friday May 13, 2022 @04:19PM (#62530950)
    The stock market is down so Musk is just being his usual asshole self looking for excuses why he shouldn't pay the money that he agreed to pay for a takeover. The exact same shit he does to push up or push down the price of a stock or cryptocurrency he has an interest in. The Twitter board should tell him to stump up the cash he agreed to or gtfo and pay the penalty.
    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      The stock market is down so Musk is just being his usual asshole self looking for excuses why he shouldn't pay the money that he agreed to pay for a takeover. The exact same shit he does to push up or push down the price of a stock or cryptocurrency he has an interest in. The Twitter board should tell him to stump up the cash he agreed to or gtfo and pay the penalty

      Exactly. Everything is down, and suddenly Musk isn't as rich as he thought he was. And the deal was contingent on other people joining him on th

    • by mjwx ( 966435 )

      The stock market is down so Musk is just being his usual asshole self looking for excuses why he shouldn't pay the money that he agreed to pay for a takeover. The exact same shit he does to push up or push down the price of a stock or cryptocurrency he has an interest in. The Twitter board should tell him to stump up the cash he agreed to or gtfo and pay the penalty.

      If all he wanted was out, he just had to rescind his offer. Nothing had been finalised. It was essentially a verbal agreement, no contract was signed so he didn't even need an out clause.

  • Did you people miss that? Anyway, if they go all in on "free speech" they have to disallow banning from the comments section. That's the only way to mitigate disinformation. Disinformation or even correct information intended to mislead must at least be fought with education. And yes, btw it is possible to lie with the truth depending on the IQ of the audience.

    One example of how truth can spread lies if your audience is sufficiently low IQ'd: if you want to paint purple haired people as evil .. all you have

  • by SilverJets ( 131916 ) on Friday May 13, 2022 @04:41PM (#62531020) Homepage

    He just wanted to sell Tesla stock without causing it to tank.

    • He didn't sell enough stock to cause the needle to even move let alone for the price to tank. The market cap changed by less than 1% on a stock that is almost universally seen as overpriced. $8.5bn only seems like a lot of money to normies like you and me.

  • Musk cannot unilaterally change the rules of the purchase agreement he already signed. If this impedes the sale, Twitter can very well sue over this - and would likely win.

    Not that i think they would though, for a number of reasons. But this is nothing more than Musk playing smoke and mirrors in order to torpedo the shitty deal he cornered himself into.

  • A question on the number of bots that infect twitter. Did Twitter lie to the SEC or lie to Musk, did Twitter, maybe lie to both? As near as I can figure, Twitter told the SEC 8.5% and Twitter told Musk 5%. Either, both percentages or maybe the real number is going to be evidence in the court proceedings that are sure to follow.
  • Time for it to sing it's swan song and make way for the replacements. I'm a bit surprised that it lasted as long as it did.

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