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'Dirty Servers': The Untold Story of The Great Twitch Breach of 2014 (vice.com) 8

A 2014 breach at Twitch "was so bad that Twitch essentially had to rebuild much of its code infrastructure because the company eventually decided to assume most of its servers were compromised," reports Vice. "They figured it would be easier to just label them 'dirty,' and slowly migrate them to new servers, according to three former employees who saw and worked with these servers."

Slashdot reader em1ly shares Vice's report (which Vice based on interviews with seven former Twitch employees who'd worked there when the breach happened): The discovery of the suspicious logs kicked off an intense investigation that pulled nearly all Twitch employees on deck. One former employee said they worked 20 hours a day for two months, another said he worked "three weeks straight." Other employees said they worked long hours for weeks on end; some who lived far from the office slept in hotel rooms booked by the company. At the time, Twitch had few, if any, dedicated cybersecurity engineers, so developers and engineers from other teams were pulled into the effort, working together in meeting rooms with glass windows covered, frantically trying to figure out just how bad the hack was, according to five former Twitch employees who were at the company at the time...

Twitch's users would only find out about the breach six months after its discovery, on March 23, 2015, when the company published a short blog post that explained "there may have been unauthorized access to some Twitch user account information," but did not let on nearly how damaging the hack was to Twitch internally.... When Twitch finally disclosed the hack in March of 2015, security engineers at Twitch and Amazon, who had come to help with the incident response, concluded that the hack had started at least eight months before the discovery in October of 2014, though they had no idea if the hackers had actually broken in even earlier than that, according to the former employee. "That was long enough for them to learn entirely how our whole system worked and the attacks they launched demonstrated that knowledge," the former employee said...

For months after the discovery and public announcement, several servers and services were internally labeled as "dirty," as a way to tell all developers and engineers to be careful when interacting with them, and to make sure they'd get cleaned up eventually. This meant that they were still live and in use, but engineers had put restrictions on them in the event that they were still compromised, according to three former employees. "The plan apparently was just to rebuild the entire infra[structure] from known-good code and deprecate the old 'dirty' environment. We still, years later, had a split between 'dirty' services (servers or other things that were running when the hack took place) and 'clean' services, which were fired up after," one of the former employees said. "We celebrated office-wide the day we took down the last dirty service!"

Another former employees tells Vice that the breach came as a surprise, even though the company hadn't invested in keeping itself secure. "Security efforts kept getting cancelled or deprioritized with the argument that 'everyone loves Twitch; no one wants to hack us.'" The Twitch engineer who'd first stumbled onto the breach described his reaction to Vice. " 'Oh fuck.' But I remember thinking that there was so much 'I told you so' here."

One former employee added later that a more recent incident just this month "demonstrates that they didn't learn anything from the incident in 2014." But not everyone agrees. Other former employees, however, said that the damage of this new data breach appears to be less severe than the 2014 hack. And that it's likely thanks to Twitch taking security more seriously since then.
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'Dirty Servers': The Untold Story of The Great Twitch Breach of 2014

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  • Companies could have uncertain/dirty/clean "corrals" and the ability to move servers/services between them. When there's a breach, a server can be moved to the "uncertain" corral and held under extreme network restriction, examined, then moved to the "dirty" or "clean" one. Dirty ones are under other network restrictions (probably determined server-by-server), and then either cleaned or a replacement stood up in the "clean" corral and the data migrated over.

    The "uncertain" and "dirty" corrals would be em

  • by PPH ( 736903 ) on Sunday October 17, 2021 @08:06PM (#61901607)

    ... such 'dirty' servers? And possibly download some 'dirty' content from them?

    Purely for science, of course.

  • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Sunday October 17, 2021 @10:17PM (#61901751) Journal

    "Security efforts kept getting cancelled or deprioritized with the argument that 'everyone loves Twitch; no one wants to hack us.'"

  • by peppepz ( 1311345 ) on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:08AM (#61902167)

    One former employee said they worked 20 hours a day for two months

    No they didn't. They couldn't do it if the work consisted in just keeping their eyelids open, and certainly not if the work was to perform a security audit.

    • When I was younger I clocked up ~100 billable hours a week on a customer site at the end of a project. But I was staying in a hotel and had a driver at my disposal who picked me up, brought me lunch in the office, and took me back to the hotel at nine or ten pm. Even so, it was a blur of eat, sleep and (mostly) work.

      The only way I could have done more than 15 hours a day would be to sleep less. There are some people who need less sleep than the rest of us, but I don't believe 20 hour days are possible for

    • One former employee said they worked 20 hours a day for two months

      No they didn't. They couldn't do it if the work consisted in just keeping their eyelids open, and certainly not if the work was to perform a security audit.

      Maybe they meant 'one former employee said that they booked 20 hours a day for two months'.

      That seems possible.

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