Counter Strike' Bug Allows Hackers To Take Over a PC With a Steam Invite (vice.com) 26
Hackers could take control of victims' computers just by tricking them into clicking on a Steam invite to play Counter Strike: Global Offensive, Motherboard reports, citing a bug filing review. From a report: A bug in the game engine used in Counter Strike: Global Offensive could be exploited by hackers to take full control of a target's machine. A security researcher alerted Valve about the bug in June of 2019. Valve is the maker of Source Engine, which is used by CS:GO, Team Fortress 2, and several other games. The researcher, who goes by the name Florian, said that while that the bug has been fixed in some games that use the Source engine, it is still present in CS:GO, and he demonstrated it in a call with Motherboard. Florian's correspondence with Valve occurred on HackerOne, the bug bounty platform used by the company to get reports about vulnerabilities. Valve admitted that it was being slow to respond, even though it classified the bug as "critical" in the thread with the researchers, which Motherboard reviewed. "I am honestly very disappointed because they straight up ignored me most of the time," Florian said in an online chat.
Which platforms? (Score:2, Informative)
The title says "PC". The Wikipedia article says the game runs on Windows, macOS, and Linux. I understand even FreeBSD can run it.
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Since when does PC imply windows? The PC predates Windows. Strictly speaking a PC is any home computer that is compatible with IBM's original spec. More ofte used today is an x86 compatible home computer. And I've even seen it used to describe any home computer or micro but I think that goes a little too far. An Amiga isn't a PC, nor is a TRS-80. But a home built Threadripper system running *.nix is.
Re: Which platforms? (Score:3)
When somebody says "PC" most assume "Windows".
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That's why game boxes used to say "PC/Mac".
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That's only because most don't know that OS other than Windows and MacOS exist. Just because you assume a quality about something, even if it is usually true that doesn't mean its a requirement or part of a definition. When someone says car without any qualifiers I assume its an automatic because most are. But that doesn't mean a car must have an auto.
Re: Which platforms? (Score:2)
Industries tend to follow popular thought/belief and advertise and indicate accordingly.
Most "laypeople" still don't know what a Linux is, but they know "PC" and "Windows", and to them those terms are interchangeable. So companies will put "For PC" in bold on the box, and the disc inside will be for Windows. Of course, they always put the OS/system requirements on the back, and most people who use Linux would know to check for this.
Maybe it's not a great way of doing things, but it is what it is.
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DOS and later Windows killed the concept that a Commodore 64 is a Personal Computer. The OS and hardware became inseparable concepts even in those early days. PC-compatible mean you had something that could run a DOS program. If you had an IBM 5150 AT with CGA but it was running Xenix, people didn't consider it a PC in the context of what square logo you'd put on a box of software for it.
We're stuck with the vocabulary that society widely accepts. We can try to cling to meaning that is 30 years obsolete, bu
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Commodore 64s were never called PCs. They were called either microcomputers or home computers.
We're stuck with the vocabulary that society widely accepts. We can try to cling to meaning that is 30 years obsolete, but we're not likely to gain any traction. Why even waste the effort.
That's the point I'm making. PC isn't a windows box. It never was. The definition normies use has definitely changed over time but it never has meant "a computer running windows" which is what OP was implying.
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but it never has meant "a computer running windows"
I think PC does mean that today.
Are you suggesting it is shorthand for desktop & laptop computer? I'm confused what you think it means now. a "Threadripper system running *.nix", which is just a flavor of x86 or x86_64, running some OS that most commercial software doesn't consider worth supporting (sadly).
If you think people should say "Windows PC" (or something like that) when they mean a computer running Microsoft Windows. Then I'm all for that. ambiguity is exactly how I'm sucked into these semantic
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It means personal computer. As in, a computer that isn't a mainframe or minicomputer.
An obsolete view that I cannot agree with.
IBM's lack of creativity in naming their PC does not change the fact that "PC" is not OS-specific
I gave an example where it is OS specific in the context of software publishing. Consumers felt that software advertised as PC-compatible meant it would run on DOS (or a compatible clone of it). Then later publishers moved to saying Windows to mean it would run on Windows (duh, that's better)
If true, this is as much of a threat to a Mac or Linux desktop as it is to some garbage windoze box.
Good thing I run Steam on a mainframe!
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Are you suggesting it is shorthand for desktop & laptop computer?
For laymen? Yes.
I'm confused what you think it means now. a "Threadripper system running *.nix"
The AC I originally replied to implied that only systems running Windows qualify as PCs. I was using that as an example of what most people would still call a PC. PC has never meant "Windows Computer" to most of the population. For those who know, they have used it for x86 compatible micros. For those who don't they likely didn't know what an OS was anyways so they wouldn't make that distinction.
If you think people should say "Windows PC" (or something like that) when they mean a computer running Microsoft Windows. Then I'm all for that. ambiguity is exactly how I'm sucked into these semantic discussions that I never end up enjoying.
More or less yes. I think most technically inclined people already do that. You wont get normies
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Sadly, PC has become shorthand for IBM PC + Windows.
As others point 8-bit computers such as the Apple ][ and C64 were PCs (Personal Computers). When IBM introduced their PC it seems like all the other platforms got dropped from being included.
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No, the C64, Apple II etc. were not referred to as "personal computers". The terms in common use were mainframe (e.g. DEC PDP-10), minicomputer (e.g. DEC PDP-11), supermini (e.g. DEC VAX), microcomputer (single-user systems). The ZX Spectrum, C64, etc. were micros, but they were also more specifically referred to as "home computers" to differentiate them from micros that were more aimed at hobbyists/enthusiasts or businesses.
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> No, the C64, Apple II etc. were not referred to as "personal computers".
Yes [wixstatic.com] (1976) the [wixstatic.com] (1977) Apple 2 [wixstatic.com] (1979) called [wixstatic.com] (1980) a [wixstatic.com] (1981) personal [printmag.com] (1981) computer [wixstatic.com] (1981)
Go back to Computer History class, you're drunk.
anit cheat needs admin and it's an 3d party app (Score:3)
anit cheat needs admin and it's an 3d party app
From bad to worse. (Score:1)
Re:From bad to worse. (Score:5, Interesting)
They are too busy creating good and well designed games but then destroying them either with terrible patches and game changes (Dota Underlords) or just by going full-greed mode in their monetization (Artifact).
Sigh, gaming has been shit since they figured out the average gamer was computer illiterate and retarded in 1997 with ultima online, mmo's were just rpg's with stolen networking code ripped out so they could steal rpg's and charge a subscription. They were the first drm, since drm is just corporate newspeak for back ended C++ compiled apps so they could take control of the PC away from the user.
When Ultima online and everquest began to print money in 97 and 99, that gave valve the idea for steam, once gamers gave up game ownership all the negative practices began.
Ultima 9 - the game with signleplayer +multiplayer we owned, local win 32 binary, was cancelled for UO service scam game. Then every RPG in development was rebadged mmo.
See here Ultima online devs:
Ultima Online devs discuss how EA cancelled box product ultima for UO, the beginning of DRM, back ended AAA PC games [youtu.be]
We went free maps, mods and skins and dedicated servers to having none of that because the average gamer doesn't realize he's been being robbed for 20+ years now, most people playing wow or any mmo have no idea they could have had the same game with dedicated servers and level editors.
Cool things we got 20 years ago, Quake level editor:
http://icculus.org/gtkradiant/ [icculus.org]
So valve and the industry has been dead since 1997, it just took a full decade for high speed internet to be built out from 2000 to 2010 so they could fully back end every big budget games.
Whenever you see a game that requires a login or a user account or a remote server, you're getting scammed. Gamers haven't clued in to the fact they are being robbed for 23+ years now.
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Very good comment, raises a lot of interesting questions. Of course none of this has anything to do with my beloved World of Warcraft (which requires a login, a user account, and remote servers).
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Very good comment, raises a lot of interesting questions. Of course none of this has anything to do with my beloved World of Warcraft (which requires a login, a user account, and remote servers).
Any piece of software can be programmed client server and have user account stapled to it, adobe, windows, every app on the planet. World of warcraft is just a bunch of C++ code, if you don't think you could have had owned WoW and the ability to host your own games, you are naive, they have internal builds with all the functionality of a regular PC game like quake 3, Baldurs gate and neverwinter nights (2002). you don't seem to grasp Steam was a direct response to back ended rpg's being successful, if no
Tinfoil Hat (Score:2)
Whenever someone hacks my computer (Score:2)
it plays the audio: Terrorists Win.
If anything, targeting Counter Strike (or Rust) will net you a Russian gamer more often than not. And the only state actor I can think of that would target Russians specifically in cyberwarfare is my own government (USA).
Güzel (Score:1)