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RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites (torrentfreak.com) 99

An anonymous reader shares a report: The RIAA is ramping up the pressure on a wide range of platforms allegedly involved in music piracy. Two DMCA subpoenas obtained against Cloudflare and Namecheap require the companies to hand over all information they hold on more than 40 torrent sites, streaming portals and YouTube-ripping services. Also included in the mix are several file-hosting platforms.
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RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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  • Lets see the list (Score:4, Interesting)

    by future assassin ( 639396 ) on Friday October 30, 2020 @04:53PM (#60666936)

    I wanna try out those services.

    • Re:Lets see the list (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 30, 2020 @05:05PM (#60666988)

      Domains Targeted in Cloudflare Subpoena

      1337x.to
      pluspremieres.to
      thesource.to
      ddownload.com
      hiphopde.com*
      ontiva.com*
      anonfiles.com
      audioz.download
      dirrtyremix.es
      discografiaspormega.com
      douploads.net
      ghanamotion.com
      hd24bit.com
      hexupload.net
      intmusic.net
      iplusfree.org
      listentoyoutube.online
      mp3global.org
      musiconworldoffmx.com
      muzobzor.ru
      naijaonpoint.com*
      newalbumreleases.net
      ngleakers.co*
      rlsbb.ru
      rnbxclusive.vip
      sanet.ws
      songslover.cam*
      torrentdownloads.me*
      xclusivejams.nl
      zoop.su
      notube.net
      alegemuzica.top
      topmusic.uno*
      y2mate.com*
      youtubeconverter.io*

      Domains Targeted in Namecheap Subpoena

      getrockmusic.net
      hiphopde.com*
      hiphoptrendsnow.com
      ontiva.com*
      songslover.com*
      stannova.com
      toryextra.com
      vevosongs.com
      ddownload.com
      torrentdownloads.me*
      ngleakers.co*
      naijaonpoint.com*
      topmusic.uno*
      y2mate.com*
      youtubeconverter.io*

      • You are doing cod's work, son.

      • 1337x.to is my go to site! Not going to divulge a better one though...

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        • Worst comes to worst, there is always screen recording software.

          If the site I use to dl Youtube videis gets pulled, another one will surely take it's place and if it's good, I am sticking with it.

          Of course, I won't mention what that site is anywhere in order to protect Youtube from taking action against it.

          • Yep, or just use (Linux) Audio Recorder or maybe Audacity to pull the audio and record it. I may even setup my own audio-ripping service site on one of my domains and use it myself (privately).

            There is literally no way to stop people from recording sound, and I laugh every time I see these dolts playing whack-a-mole with the internet.

    • What's the point? (Score:2, Interesting)

      by BAReFO0t ( 6240524 )

      Instruct your CPU to not mark the RAM area the YT video was downloaded from as free and re-usable, but to copy it to permanent storage, before overwriting the pointer.

      If you're using proper Linux, and the video is in one consecutive memory area, even grep-ing for the header inside /dev/mem, and then using that to find the total size, and running dd to store that to disk, is enough. Should be doable in a single line of bash.
      And finding all memory locations that contain a pointer to that locations should be e

      • That approach could work, but there's nothing to stop Google from altering their countermeasures. Frequently. This is already one of their defenses against ripping utilities: A subtle change is enough to break rippers, who then need a programmer to dissect the change and release an update.

      • If you're using proper Linux, and the video is in one consecutive memory area, even grep-ing for the header inside /dev/mem, and then using that to find the total size, and running dd to store that to disk, is enough. Should be doable in a single line of bash.

        Seems like it would be easier to just use (Linux) Audio Recorder or maybe Audacity to strip the audio.

  • So I wasn't just being paranoid [slashdot.org], this is a concerted effort targeting YouTube and music.

  • by wakeboarder ( 2695839 ) on Friday October 30, 2020 @05:02PM (#60666964)

    I guess they must enjoy playing whack-a-mole.

  • by awwshit ( 6214476 ) on Friday October 30, 2020 @05:02PM (#60666970)

    Continuing the war on customers, way to go RIAA. One day the money will be gone and the RIAA will be no more. I'll be willing to pay for music again when the RIAA is gone. Turns out that suing your biggest fans isn't a good business strategy.

    • Re: (Score:2, Flamebait)

      I'll be willing to pay for music again when the RIAA is gone.

      Did you forget something? With no RIAA, nobody will be paid to make music.

      • Re:war (Score:5, Informative)

        by The Rizz ( 1319 ) on Friday October 30, 2020 @05:21PM (#60667062)

        Have you ever looked at how bands make their money? The get almost nothing from CDs or streaming - the RIAA makes sure of that. Bands make their money off of ticket sales and merchandising. The only way bands make money off their own CDs is by selling them at events or through their own website - even just an Amazon referral link to their own album over doubles what they get off that album's sale.

      • Did you forget something? With no RIAA, nobody will be paid to make music.

        That's like saying without The Institution for Engineering and Technology I wouldn't get paid by my company to be an engineer.

        Your statement is dumb. On multiple levels considering how the RIAA managed to screw artists out of actual money to the point where some have actively told them "fuck you" and gone out and started their own labels completely independent of the RIAA's toxic reach.

      • Did you forget something? With no RIAA, nobody will be paid to make music.

        LOL, that's the most retarded thing I've heard all week.

      • Did you forget something? With no RIAA, nobody will be paid to make music.

        That's hilarious. There are thousands of bands paid to make music that aren't with major labels. Some are not with labels at all.

        Now, they don't make millions of dollars and live high-profile celebrity lifestyles, but they make money.

        Hell, one of the local bands I like is making thousands off Patreon every month, and they are self-published. They've used that steady income to buy a band vehicle and fund a European tour, and they've started to pay members a steady salary. They all still have day-jobs, but th

    • the RIAA makes celebrities, not music, so they're not going anywhere. When an actual threat presented itself in the form of musicians making a living on MP3.com they shut it down fast.

      Good does not often win in the end, especially on time scales 100 years.
      • When an actual threat presented itself in the form of musicians making a living on MP3.com they shut it down fast.

        That may be the alternate history version of what happened, but here in reality MP3.com didn't get attacked by a pack of ravenous lawyers until they decided to play fast and loose with copyright law. See, it turned out most people weren't much interested in listening to unknown artists, and in an effort to expand their userbase MP3.com became a cloud storage provider for music you already owned (before that sort of thing was cool).

        MP3.com wasn't shut down - it was bought out. The irony being, a lot of rec

    • Re:war (Score:5, Insightful)

      by BAReFO0t ( 6240524 ) on Friday October 30, 2020 @05:28PM (#60667074)

      You can pay for *musicians* instead. You know: For the actual work.
      Throw a dollar in a hat. Make a friend. Become a patron. Get a patron.

      Let's be honest: Since the Internet, software recording studios, and MP3s, the whole point of the media distribution, marketing and recording industry is gone. Including their crime scheme of taking 96.5% for that (It’s what they took, at least of the price of a CD in 2000 in Germany), and having the musician pay the studio from those measly 3.5% too.

      All that's left is the marketing. Even an iTunes-like music "store" is pointless. It's not like you can't offer a link to an MP3 yourself... Or an index of such links. Hell, any actual musician knows, that it's financially better, to see the music itself as marketing, and give it away for free, so more people buy tickets and merchandise, than to demand money for something, that, by the damn laws of physics, is infinitely abundant, and hence inherently worthless.

      The imaginary property game is not only a criminal game. It is a stupid game too. One that the laws of nature themselves say cannot be won.

      • why less and less people even deal with the riaa they just go direct to the internet. look at the garbage that still even uses them.
    • i thought they where aruldy gone as less and less labels even bother with them.
    • I stopped buying music because of the RIAA. I Like supporting the artists but paying a RIAA affiliated artist amount to shooting myself in the foot. I pay my videogames though. CDPR and even steam don't wage war on their customers.

      • Besides, i still go to classical music concert. Those people need my help and do not hinder my downloading tools. I COULD content myself with pirated classical music but i don't.

  • YouTube-Ripping Platforms? What special things would this require?
    • YouTube has been playing downloader software Whack-A-Mole ever since startup.

      • They do realize that watching the videos IS downloading, right?

        Don't tell me we are already in the "streaming is not downloading" delusion.
        Cause kids will come home crying, when it's like recently with the "information is property" delusion, where they were told that, no, they do not "own" the films they downloaded, but agreed to a *license*. Which is what was always the case, even when you bought a VHS cassette, and what licenses have always been saying since the very first sheet music, and was exactly wha

        • Streaming: You can't keep it, you can only view it while it's been sent to you.
          Downloading: You can keep it and do what ever you want to it.
          Downloading with DRM: You can keep it, but can't move it.
          Downloading with Watermark: You can keep it and move it, but you'll be caught if you don't keep it to yourself.

          Get your terms right.

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          • Downloading generally means transferring a copy to your computer. Outside of any temporary and difficult to access caches...

            Oh, that cache where you transferred a copy to your computer?

            I'm really unclear why you think download status depends on where on your hard drive you store the information. The information either flowed through the pipes and resides on your hardware, or it does not.

  • the maRfIAA

    moronic
    assholes of the
    Recording
    fucking
    Industry
    Association of
    America

    (substitute 1 or more 'assholes' for the last two to taste)

    • Back in the 2000s, when they were fighting Napster, we called them the Maff-RIAA.

      The unholy trinity of evil was the RIAA, the MPAA, and Microsoft. The latter for their very aggressive efforts to crush the open source software movement.

  • We call them "the RIAA" here on Slashdot, but they're really the major labels, all owned by Disney and NBC Universal. Funny, we love when they release something...

    • I dunno, I think RIAAtards is more descriptive and accurate.

      What other business model sues their customers? /s

      • by dryeo ( 100693 )

        Wasn't there articles on here about John Deere suing their customers for fixing the equipment they bought? Apple is also moving in that direction with their war on the right to repair. At that many successful companies, once they've bought out the competition or otherwise got rid of them, will sue their customers to protect their profits.

        • well thats on the consumers. maybe every farmer in the usa should stop buying john dear. nope they managed to brainwash people into thinking there trashy tractors are better.
      • What other business model sues their customers? /s

        DirecTV, Disney, Sony, Microsoft, the MPAA, pretty much every bank, ever, and that's just off the top of my head.

    • No they are the RIAA. They are a distinct different body from individual labels and nothing more than a trade organisation. Just like how my workers union is very different from ... well ... me.

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      • RIAA popped up in the early 2000s decade on Slashdot after the MPAA for movies, made of the five major studios, started arguing for stronger copyright protection.

  • They will harass everyone until all of art and creativity is destroyed, and all ideas are in chains, in the pursuit to maximize profit (as opposed to earnings) and minimize creative output actually done.

    Prison in the only acceptable choice for every single bastard collaborating with the Content Mafia. Let that be very clear.
    Don't give them a single cent. Actually support artists INSTEAD. (You do that, by going to concerts, buying merchandise, backing Kickstarter projects, and using Patreon, Flattr, etc. Or,

    • As much as I would like to see the top dogs of the RIAA and MPAA spend some quality time with Bubba, you and I both know that will never happen.

      "Throw 'em in prison" is sounding more and more like a cop out or an unrealistic "if only" wish.

      It's better to take ACTION, doing an end run around these suits, and do everything possible to make their lives hell, and break them down to the point where they say "fuck it, it's not worth this misery". That's how we will defeat these clowns.

  • They really don't need to do this considering the analog hole is always there. I can set Audacity or a screen recorder up right and tada, I have a copy of it. It just takes realtime but whatever. But don't forget, they already have a severe countermeasure in place. Any mid to high budget competent music video puts a break, pause, interlude, extra sound effects, etc in the middle of the song to ruin it for anyone who wants to rip it off. Why don't they just calm down and lean on that old tactic?
    • So I had about 7 e's in the first "really" and the rest of the text verbatim and Slashdot says "we're not posting that. It looks too much like ASCII art." REALLY? The rest of the paragraph looked like ASCII art? REALLY?!?!?!
      • So I had about 7 e's in the first "really" and the rest of the text verbatim and Slashdot says "we're not posting that. It looks too much like ASCII art." REALLY? The rest of the paragraph looked like ASCII art? REALLY?!?!?!

        Repeated anything that doesn't spell an aspell word is caught by the Slashdot nonsense filter, which must have be put on alert to get rid of the "Trump 2020" ascii postings.

        • Good thing it catches all those swastika ASCII art postings! ... Oh wait. /s /. lameness filter has been busted for years. You can't even post code (snippets) without it fucking complaining.

          Just remove the damn thing and let meta-moderation catch the spam.

          • Try marking your code with the "code tag" and it should work.

            • "should". LOL.

              No, that still doesn't work. The problems with the code tag are:

              1. That it does NOT respect consecutive whitespace (it will automatically compress then down to 1 space),
              2. It automatically hard-codes expanding whitespace to 8 spaces.
              3. It will sometimes unindent the first line???
              4. It may automatically join lines???

              How fucking hard is to just display VERBATIM what is between the 2 tags???

              Look how fucked up the auto-formatting of this example is:

              /**/ if (data[mid] < key) min = mid + 1;

    • Works for me. Check it out, if it comes through my Win10 audio system I can capture it, and I have the right to do this: https://www.reneelab.com/audio... [reneelab.com]
    • " high budget competent music video puts a break, pause, interlude, extra sound effects, "

      Whi said audio recording had to be done from a music video?

  • , with a cloth, of course, and then smash their cell phones with hammers. Hillary Clinton did that after getting a subpoena and then-FBI-director James Comey publicly announce that "no reasonable prosecutor" would ever prosecute her. That case was not about music or movies, it was a matter of classified documents and national security. Oh, wait... I guess money is more important.

    No, I'm not fixated on Mrs Clinton (let's not drag this down that particular rabbit hole, she's just the great example), but rathe

  • The price of recordable media, including hard disks, includes a fee that goes to various rights holder organizations to pay for the possibility that a legal personal copy of copyrighted material is stored. That copy is not piracy. It's not "we can't stop you from doing this illegally, so we make you pay a fee." That copy is as legal as a store-bought CD. When I save a copy of a Youtube video, I'm not breaking the law, you fuckers. You're trying to take away something that I've paid for. Don't ever accuse ME
    • by caseih ( 160668 )

      Not quite, at least in the US. I know Wikipedia is hardly an authoritative source, but says this about the subject: "Currently, private copy royalties are generated in the US by the sale of 'blank CDs and personal audio devices, media centers, satellite radio devices, and car audio systems that have recording capabilities.'"

      No one I know of buys blank CDs anymore. The media player one, though is interesting, although few buy these anymore either.

      • Well, contrary to rumors you might have heard, a world outside the US exists.
        • A world inside the US also exists, and Recording Industry Association of America's activities in the US courts aren't relevant to non-US copyright levies.
          • Oh good, Then I must've imagined references to German law in the youtube-dl takedown notice.
            • Yes, the DMCA (17 U.S. Code 1201) issued by the US Federal Government did mention a German law "which is materially identical to Title 17 U.S.C. 1201 of the United States Code"
  • thinking that the commercials are getting so pervasive in streaming I am starting to question the value of the streaming services I pay for.
    Gave up on TV and Cable, heck I have not even noticed or missed any sports. So no need for that cost. Now I am looking at streaming the same way.
    Video is such a time consuming pita for what you get out of it.
    I am listening to a lot more music but it is all stuff I have and classical.
    • Same here.

      We have Netflix and Amazon and that's already about 10,000 times the amount of video I'm interested in watching.

      Getting cable or a streaming service would be a complete waste; haven't had cable in 20 years and haven't missed it one bit.

      Listening to older-genre music from my collection is mostly what I'm into these days.

  • Right now with streaming music, Music industry profits are doing very well, better than in decades. With so much legal streaming being listened to, I have to wonder how much piracy is actually going on? I don't know of anyone downloading music from torrent sites these days, nor do I know of anyone offering music. I mean why bother? If there's a new song you want to check out, it's probably already on YouTube, put there for free by the music industry itself. Maybe this is a case of lawyers trying to drum

    • by dryeo ( 100693 )

      Not everyone has good internet without data caps or with reasonable data caps. I can't stream fuck all in the evenings, for a couple of hours in the morning and during holidays as well as having to worry about going over my data cap.
      Not to mention my home computer isn't very portable so if I want to listen to music while driving, walking, or even camping, especially places with shit cell coverage, the choices are limited.

    • Piracy isn't the same as it used to be. iTunes, Netflix and Steam took a big chunk out of piracy - people used to pirate for convenience just as much as to save money, so having a convenient and affordable legitimate platform won a lot of ex-pirates over. Of the pirate activity that does take place, a lot of it now comes from either content-smuggling or openly unauthorized streaming sites.

      I'm still an old-school pirate though, building and curating my collection. I don't need it, really - I have a career no

  • I'll celebrate right now.

    https://www.last.fm/music/Futu... [www.last.fm] [PC Speaker] Fuck the M-P-double-A comin' straight out the underground A young pirate got it bad cause I'm down Loadin' DVDs like a motherfuckin' fiend Bring my camera to the movies and I put em on BT Back all that stolen content up on DVD-ROMs 'Cuz my tip's been piracy since I dropped out my Mom's And just because I share my MP3s They got the government comin' after me Instead of suin' kids why don't you step on up And release a couple albums tha

  • Defund the RIAA along with the po po?

  • " 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms"

    Because "oMg po3piL r pIrAtInG cOntEnT".
    Nevermind that there were unique videos
    not produced by "Hollywood" that
    I saved using these services because stuff
    has a habbit of disappearing off the net
    entirely these days.

      "and Pirate Sites"

    To make the public think these two
    different things are one and the same.

    Unsorry suits, but I don't need you to tell
    me what to do.

    • its low hanging fruit for them. yes there full of crap and they know it but relly who is going to fight them over soft where that is agenst the tos of youtube.
  • Remember that "Hollywood" gets royalties from what it sells AND from whatever blank media you buy.

    Don't feel too bad 'ripping' their content.

  • I use these services on occasion.

    - for time/platform shifting: so I can watch a video later while having no internet connection.

    - for archival: some video is valuable reference material. It can disappear from YouTube at any time, downloading prevents losing access.

    - for public playback: I occasionally want to show a video to a bunch of people, e.g. in a classroom or church. Having playback interrupted by ads or internet hiccups is unacceptable, so I'll download the video instead of playing back from the bro

  • The real reason behind this isn't the ownership people... it's the fact that they loose data when you download. Remember, value comes with usage (streaming) thus when you download you and your habits become a black hole...

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