Car 'Splatometer' Tests Reveal Huge Decline In Number of Insects 130
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: Two scientific studies of the number of insects splattered by cars have revealed a huge decline in abundance at European sites in two decades. The survey of insects hitting car windscreens in rural Denmark used data collected every summer from 1997 to 2017 and found an 80% decline in abundance. It also found a parallel decline in the number of swallows and martins, birds that live on insects.
The second survey, in the UK county of Kent in 2019, examined splats in a grid placed over car registration plates, known as a "splatometer." This revealed 50% fewer impacts than in 2004. The research included vintage cars up to 70 years old to see if their less aerodynamic shape meant they killed more bugs, but it found that modern cars actually hit slightly more insects. [...] The stream research, published in the journal Conservation Biology, analyzed weekly data from 1969 to 2010 on a stream in a German nature reserve, where the only major human impact is climate change. "Overall, water temperature increased by 1.88C and discharge patterns changed significantly. These changes were accompanied by an 81.6% decline in insect abundance," the scientists reported. "Our results indicate that climate change has already altered [wildlife] communities severely, even in protected areas."
The second survey, in the UK county of Kent in 2019, examined splats in a grid placed over car registration plates, known as a "splatometer." This revealed 50% fewer impacts than in 2004. The research included vintage cars up to 70 years old to see if their less aerodynamic shape meant they killed more bugs, but it found that modern cars actually hit slightly more insects. [...] The stream research, published in the journal Conservation Biology, analyzed weekly data from 1969 to 2010 on a stream in a German nature reserve, where the only major human impact is climate change. "Overall, water temperature increased by 1.88C and discharge patterns changed significantly. These changes were accompanied by an 81.6% decline in insect abundance," the scientists reported. "Our results indicate that climate change has already altered [wildlife] communities severely, even in protected areas."
Software eating the world (Score:5, Funny)
The bugs have moved to all our "smart" devices.
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where do you live where this exists? It sounds glorious.
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Driven bug sprayers in a nature reserve? I'm sure you've submitted your evidence for this to the proper authorities so they can hand out some really massive fines?
Re: Software eating the world (Score:2)
Wrong on both fronts. This isnâ(TM)t an attack its just observation. Warm climate will create more bugs because cold winters are not killing off nearly as many eggs and dormant bugs. I have noticed this myself. Over the last 2 decades the number of bugs hitting my windshield has nearly vanished. IMO it is Monsanto and the genetic engineered crops.
I think the pollen from monsanto plants are killing the bugs.
So what happens if MOSANTO is killing all (Score:2)
What happens if we have proof Mosanto and
its directors/owners are killing the human race by
killing 99% of insects causing mass food shortages in 2030s?
Sue them? how will that fix things. And what if the directors
all disapear magically of the face of the earth? Or do they pleed ignorance saying, hey its all approved, sue the govt.
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"The bugs are being killed off by the drive around bug sprayers and nothing to do with the climate^C"
You live in a Club Med?
Sweet!
Temperature alone doesn't make sense here (Score:5, Insightful)
The temperature has not changed at all quickly compared to seasonal cycles insects already have to endure.
Insects are also incredible fast breeders, making them highly adaptable to environmental changes.
I'm not going to argue with the findings there are fewer insects, but I think they are trying to place blame with a factor that doesn't make as much sense as, for instance, local use of insecticides on crops or housing development which would have vastly more an impact...
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That hole you're sticking your head isn't deep enough to continue this denial.
Re:Temperature alone doesn't make sense here (Score:5, Interesting)
From the paper:
Declines in insect abundance may have a number of causes including altered land use, novel pesticides, climate warming, and invasive predators.
There's a bit of a non-sequitur about fertilizers and insecticides in the abstract, but I think they're leaving the door open to a number of commonly suspected causes for a very clearly demonstrated issue.
The summary here is complete crap, though.
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Another plausible explanation is rising CO2 levels, which are 48% higher than pre-industrial levels.
The respiratory systems of insects [wikipedia.org] are less efficient than the lungs and gills of vertebrates, which is one reason they are so small. Back in the Carboniferous Period [wikipedia.org], when O2 levels were higher and CO2 levels were lower, bugs were WAY bigger than today.
So maybe bugs are dying because they are having trouble breathing. A way to test this hypothesis would be to look at the dead bugs on the windshields and se
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I think they said the only human impact was climate change in the stream, however this is just a crappy reference to climate based on wanting to get promoted. Obviously there are many other variables which may or may not be from humans also there is some debate that climate change is significantly controlled or the result of human activity (the fact that it is 1 degree higher and this is assumed to be CO2 but that is possibly just a factor.) Insects tend to come and go. A few years ago we g
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There are a lot of things humans can do to wipe out insects. Years ago, we had a 'pond scum' problem in local lakes. Insects loved it. Salmon fry loved it. We had some very successful salmon derbys where you had to try hard to not catch fish. Environmentalists hated it. Actually rich people who lived on the lake and didn't like the poor water clarity and bugs. So they pushed to get the watershed cleaned up. Now there's much less biological runoff into the lake, clearer water, fewer bugs, far fewer salmon fr
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local use of insecticides on crops or housing development which would have vastly more an impact
The published paper actually talks about that. A good bit. The Slashdot summary completely misses it. Go after the Slashdot editor, the paper already points to light pollution, pesticides, development, and temperature.
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"local use of insecticides on crops or housing development which would have vastly more an impact." and you know this how?
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Most of the literature on the subject substantiate that claim. Habitat loss and pesticides are the top causes.
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Don't miss out on changes in nature where there are fewer wetlands today than it was 40 to 50 years ago. And farming has become more specialized as well - today many farms are highly industrialized where there's either cattle or growth of plants, so the insects suffer from a monoculture situation where they actually may need a more mixed environment of animals, grazing land, plant growth and forest patches to thrive.
To many insects modern agriculture land is a desert area. Some insects need what's considere
I'm the only one talking science here (Score:1, Informative)
Your opinion is irrelevant to science.
My HYPOTHESIS is based on science, unlike your opinion based on slavish faith-based adherence to your death cult.
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Re:I'm the only one talking science here (Score:5, Insightful)
You pulled your HYPOTHESIS out of your ass
To be fair, most hypotheses are pulled out of someone's ass. A hypothesis is just a fancy word for a guess.
after not reading the damn paper the article linked to.
I rend the abstract. Their point seems to be:
1. The climate is warming
2. Insects are declining
3. Therefore #1 is causing #2
They are probably correct. But higher temperatures are not the only plausible cause. One problem is the lack of an obvious mechanism. Why should higher temps reduce insect populations? Insects are more common in the tropics where temperatures are even higher. So why don't the tropical bugs just migrate north?
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But they did control for other reasons (pollutions), so just studying this to see that there's (probably) a cause and effect is a major breakthrough.
And there are lots of studies about how quickly plants and animals can migrate. Really, they can'
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TEMPERATURE CHANGE IS BULLFECES (Score:2)
The temp change is an average, which is meaningless.
A big temp increase in the arctic, and zero in the tropics changes the average, but doesnt change the local spread.
Also one or two hot days, or higher mins can change averages, but the MAJORITY of days are no more different to any other days decades ago.
Just read your local temps every 5 mins for 365 days, its a massive swing DAILY/WEEKLY/MONTHLY, hardly a stationary value, it can swing 10 to 30c any given day, and even if its hot, they will find a local
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> That's for another study (or a lot of studies)
Most of literature have the main cause as habitat loss followed by pesticides. Global warming is very low on the list.
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So why don't the tropical bugs just migrate north?
Insects have migrated north. Plenty of studies have proven that already.
Why should higher temps reduce insect populations?
They shouldn't. But you know what does? Extreme weather. Insects are incredibly sensitive to their environment and local weather patterns have a huge effect on an insect population. A heatwave combined with less than normal rainfall 2 years ago resulted in a huge spike in population for a certain wasp that became a huge pest in Europe. Likewise it caused a massive decline in mosquitoes and flies.
It's not a slow change in temperature kil
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oh my god, why dont you question everything you read instead of blindly accepting UNPROVEN theories that DONT ADD UP.
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Re:Temperature alone doesn't make sense here (Score:4, Insightful)
Personally I am happy to see fewer flies in summer.
But the insects don't just pop into existence, buzz around annoyingly, and then pop back out of existence.
They are a food source for a wide variety of animals I am happy to see MORE of, like songbirds. Without that food source, as even mentioned in the summary, you start to see a decline in those populations as well.
And they are ALSO food for other species, so when that population declines, MORE populations start declining. The food web is a massively complicated equation, but imagining it as a web is a good analogy for saying that we've started not just tugging at threads but ripping through them one by one to see when the web collapses.
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They are a food source for a wide variety of animals I am happy to see MORE of, like songbirds.
What are you, a morning person? Disgusting.
Re:Temperature alone doesn't make sense here (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Temperature alone doesn't make sense here (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd certainly argue with anyone who claims that fewer insects is a bad thing
You are a living being that exists on a planet in a network of living beings called an ecosystem. This network's interactions are so complicated that you don't have any idea if fewer insects will lead to collapses of the parts of the ecosystem that provide you food, or will lead to in-migration of other insects that are laden with malaria, chagas, dengue, or some new, exotic disease. Or maybe reduced numbers of herbivorous insects will lead to increased fuel loads that enable your local forests to burn to the ground. So go ahead and argue, you'll just sound like an idiot.
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> This network's interactions are so complicated that you don't have any idea
Shut up, then.
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Pants on fire. DDT is not banned for public health use in the countries where diseases like sleeping sickness or malaria are common, but it is not used anymore because the insects have developed resistance.
I am pretty sure you've been corrected on this crap several times in the past, alas you have developed resistance to facts.
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Birds. They like to eat bugs, less bugs, less birds. Some fish also like to eat bugs, as do some mammals. Bugs also pollinate plants, the ones we kind of rely on to feed us when we aren't stalking Bessie the Wonder Cow and killing her for her loins. Bugs also eat dead and decaying material so that it doesn't lie there festering and provide a nice hearty environment for pathogens that, get this, don't like us humans.
Another consequence we can expect is that the most vicious bugs will be the ones that survive
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>I'd certainly argue with anyone who claims that fewer insects is a bad thing.
Want to take a guess at how most crops are pollinated? Hint - it's insects. How about how fallen leaves, etc. are broken down? How dead animals decay? Insects play a huge role in those too.
Insects are the foundation of much of the global ecosystem - anything that hurts more than a tiny niche worth of insects, hurts everything. About the only thing that could damage the viability of the ecosystem worse is something that sev
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> I'd certainly argue with anyone who claims that fewer insects is a bad thing.
It is a bad thing. They fulfill a lot of roles for all ecosystems including very useful things like pollination. Not all insects are as annoying as mosquitoes or as disgusting as house flies (lots of fly species are pollinators).
FWIU, local pollinators tend to favor local plants and honey bees cannot fill the gap if local pollinators are struggling as they are as they account for a small portion of pollination in most ecosyste
As an aspiring biologist (Score:5, Insightful)
Most of the general public is completely and totally disconnected from the world we live in, and simply don't understand that if our ecosystems collapse, so will we. It goes far, far beyond just pollinating corn so you can get your sugar fix. And even if we could survive with a fraction of wildlife that we used to have, who the hell wants to live in a dead world (a la: The Road by Cormac McCarthy)? I certainly wouldn't.
Re:As an aspiring biologist (Score:5, Interesting)
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>Yes, terrifying is the correct word for this
No. Only for brainless fearmongers.
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Re:As an aspiring biologist (Score:5, Interesting)
Strictly anecdotal: In Central Florida in the 90s, the car windshields at night, and during the day in spring, were a mess from all the bugs. Last time I was in Florida, I commented on how relatively clean the windshield was compared to what I remembered from years back. Like I said, it's an anecdote, but I'd bet real data would show that Europe is hardly the only place where this decline is taking place.
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I'd anecdotally agree - but I wonder what effect aerodynamics and possibly glass types/coatings and so on have on how many bugs have to die for your drive?
I also wonder if traffic conditions are a factor. In any journey on a motorway, I can expect to be doing less than 50mph for at least some percentage of it. When there were less cars around, they might not have got 0-60 anywhere as quickly, but you could drive uninterrupted for longer. Further, the gaps between cars presumably means the flies can re-congr
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I don't think it's because the public is disconnected. People are just crap at considering long term consequences. We fail the marshmallow test.
My home town is a farming community in the middle of nowhere. Farmers are always complaining about the weather. They'll be happy to tell you how much colder winters used to be, how the lack of snowmelt in the spring is hurting their crops, how more rain in the fall interferes with the harvest. But they'll also argue vehemently that climate change is a city folk cons
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What you describe is much the same here in my part of Germany.
The farmers complain about the hot and dry summers that we had in the last decade and increased cost through irrigation.
They complain about the storms that have seemingly getting stronger and causing more damage every year.
Complain about the mostly mild winters. So far there
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In Australia I've been anecdotally noticing it for a decade. I'm in my 40s and 30 years ago as a kid in the car, a drive at night was just damn near dangerous. The qty of moths on the windscreen of the car was often so intense you'd have to wash the windscreen, with soap due to the oily / flaky stuff on moth wings.
This was common in most night drives.
Now seeing insects hit the screen is very, very rare. SURELY something like this has bigger ramifications for the planet, plants, animals etc. I
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Try having a wife insisting on having children. I feel like there's only a small handful of people on earth with their eyes wide enough to see what's going on.
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What does corn have to do with sugar?
Re: As an aspiring biologist (Score:2)
What does corn have to do with sugar?
White sugar that you buy to bake with comes from sugar cane and sugar beets
But most of the sugar that people actually eat does not actually come from that.
Most of the sugar that is added to our food and drinks is high fructose corn syrup
Not cane sugar.
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I don't live in the US though.
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But you have a point. The point you didn't talk about scientists in your initial reply to the OP. This technically makes it offtopic and furthermore a troll post by shifting the topic to environmentalists and socialists, which you according to your comment history think are insane.
The OP talked about scientists (as in "biologists") and not the environmentalists and socialists that you made up in your reply.
Push enough bug spray into a greenhouse. (Score:2)
-Captain Obvious
-But weather isn't climate.. go away.
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wow. A republican supporter of climate change - you sir are a rare bird.
Read the transcript! Read the paper! Read the X! you guys need a new line already.
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From the abstract: "Our results indicate that climate change has already altered biotic communities severely even in protected areas, where no other interacting stressors (pollution, habitat fragmentation etc.) are present"
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Humans are changing the climate, and the world's ecosystems are starting to collapse.
Go bury your head in the sand if you want to be a thick fuck about it, but I'm going to point out your ignorance every time, because it's that important.
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Hey retard. That is what they are CLAIMING. But they are totally ignoring other possible factors.
From the paper: "Since there is no evident anthropogenic pressure such as water pollution, land use change and species invasions in the Breitenbach catchment, climate change is arguably the single most important factor that drove the recorded changes in abundance, community structure and phenology. Nevertheless, we cannot exclude the impact of other external factors, such as changes in metacommunity structure (Leibold et al. 2004), due to a lack of appropriate long-term data from surrounding streams. If, fo
Agriculture and pesticides (Score:2, Insightful)
It's not the very minor temperature increase - it's mile after mile of monoculture plants, sprayed with chemicals to prevent those insects from eating said plants.
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Nope. Read the paper.
Nothing is ever as simple as somebody writing a single paper and thus definitively and indisputably explaining a complex process. Monoculture, habitat destruction and pesticides are every bit as much to blame as climate change.
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So there's a paper that says one thing, based on evidence and research. And then there's random Internet person(?) saying something random based on their own opinion. Hmm... which position is more believable...? Hmmm...
There is one paper that attributes the entirety of the collapse of insect populations to climate change, there is a second paper that attributes it to pesticides, there is a third paper that attributes it to habitat destruction and monoculture ... hmmm ... is the first paper indisputably correct? ... or could it be that the decline of insect populations is a more complex process that so that it can be explained with a single contributing factor. Perhaps this is a complex process that is influenced by multip
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No, there's a paper that says one thing based on SOME evidence and a not-very-detailed experimental plan.
"We only checked cars going through a nature preserve" doesn't address all of the environmental changes around that preserve, it doesn't address invasive species, pesticide spread through winds, et bloody cetera.
Hell, an increase in traffic alone would account for a lot of the change.
Or even (gasp!) evolution, where the insects are rapidly evolving to fly a few feet higher above smooth flat surfaces inst
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"The decline in insect abundance reported here could partly be attributed to changes in climate."
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Rats, bedbugs and lice are doing pretty well (the latter two after a pretty big hit).
Assuming the same number of cars were driving (Score:2, Insightful)
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Nope. I live in a rural area of North America, and on backcountry highways that are mostly driven by local ranchers, and thus where highway usage hasn't increased much, the bug population has still plummeted.
improved auto aerodynamics (Score:2)
In the past two decades, cars have become more aerodynamic, which I believe leads to less 'splats'. If this were able to be modeled and accounted for, I might believe this story.
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Crazy how many bird splats they are getting too. I've only ever hit one or two birds.
Maybe insects have learned to avoid collisions? (Score:2)
If you view documentaries about living things, it is often amazing how sensible they are.
For example: Monarch Butterfly Migration and Overwintering [fs.fed.us]. How did butterflies teach themselves to migrate??? Quote: "Some fly as far as 3,000 miles to reach their winter home!"
Farm poison, yes. Climate change, I doubt that. (Score:2)
Quote: "Our results indicate that climate change has already altered [wildlife] communities severely, even in protected areas."
I doubt that climate change is causing that. I've seen a huge number of insects on very hot days.
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Can we transfer this learning to cyclists? Perhaps we should feed them a diet of 100% bugs (the auto collision survivors, of course).
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Evolution (Score:1)
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Yes, the fucking birds are dying off, too. We're all doomed.
Aerodynamics? (Score:1)
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Well, not much. Obviously that would only have the opposite effect anyway. Let's imagine every former hippie with a VW realizes they don't know what to do with their life, becomes a lawyer, midlife crisis, buys M3. Less bugs being killed by the new douche-mobiles and a standardized annual test that shows less bugs available for killing. Does not add up.
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Don't think they were counting crabs.
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For fuck sake, the TFA summary specifically stated that "the research included vintage cars up to 70 years old to see if their less aerodynamic shape meant they killed more bugs, but it found that modern cars actually hit slightly more insects" and you had to scroll past a bunch of other comments stating the same thing just so you could post your inane nonsense.
relative size (Score:3)
swallows and martins, birds that live on insects
dang, those are some small-ass birds.
So is more or less insects reason for panic? (Score:1)
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Then there are those who tell us climate change will flood Germany with evil tropical insects
Well that's just racist...
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I'll wait until those expert have settled on whether it is more or less insects that will kill us all.
Obviously beneficial insects will be reduced while nasty, dangerous ones will increase. Before climate change all the insects were wonderful.
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So here we read from those who tell us the end is neigh
No, I'm pretty sure they didn't rack horse splats.
Insects are just evolving (Score:2)
This mat spell trouble ... (Score:2)
Men in black (Score:2)
they're killing off the bugs
https://youtu.be/Jm0eDTe4TYo [youtu.be] (@ end)
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Cars! (Score:2)
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Well, to be fair, it's actually a pretty great, consistent way to get an idea of the population of the number of insects in an area. The splatometer's mounted on the license plate, which has a consistent size, and then you just need to look at the number of miles driven. It's a cheap and simple way to sample a large area; the other option would be thousands of grad students or whatever, and then you'd only be able to do it a few times a year.