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Uber Glitch Charges Passengers 100 Times the Advertised Price, Resulting in Crosstown Fares in the Thousands of Dollars (washingtonpost.com) 85

Uber passengers in multiple cities were startled Wednesday when they were charged 100 times the advertised fare for short trips, a glitch that sparked jokes about surge pricing gone wild. From a report: Riders in cities including Washington and San Diego took to social media to post about the sky-high rates, a problem that Uber confirmed, although it declined to say how widespread the issue was. Some who ordered food for quick delivery said they were also overcharged. One social media user reported that Uber maxed out her husband's card with a charge of $1,905, when it was supposed to be $19.05. "Not cool, especially on his birthday," she added. Another woman posted to social media that she was charged $1,308 for a $13.08 trip. The charge was so high it triggered a fraud alert, according to a screen shot the rider posted on Twitter.

Uber said the glitch has been fixed. The company said the fare would be corrected so riders are charged only the amount for their actual trip, though they may temporarily see an inaccurate trip fare on their credit or debit cards. Passengers won't need to dispute the charges with their banks.

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Uber Glitch Charges Passengers 100 Times the Advertised Price, Resulting in Crosstown Fares in the Thousands of Dollars

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  • by 110010001000 ( 697113 ) on Thursday July 18, 2019 @10:06AM (#58945508) Homepage Journal

    It happened to me. $1300 Uber Ride. I just figured it was surge pricing.

    • Re:Happened to me (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 18, 2019 @10:17AM (#58945572)

      > Passengers won't need to dispute the charges with their banks.

      I absolutely would dispute it! They'll get hit with a $35 chargeback fee. They incorrectly charged you! It doesn't matter that they released a news statement saying "we'll fix it, please don't dispute!".

      This is exactly what disputing the charge was made for!!! Yay, Uber gets hit with fees!!!

      • Re:Happened to me (Score:5, Insightful)

        by rickb928 ( 945187 ) on Thursday July 18, 2019 @10:31AM (#58945646) Homepage Journal

        Absolutely. Dispute the charge!

        This won't ding Uber's risk profile with card issuers/acquirers, but it will give them a minimum amount of pain for the error, and more reason to not make such mistakes in the future.

        And then also card holders were damaged by unavailable credit or lost access to funds. This will never be recovered, but Uber ought to offer something.

        • by Ksevio ( 865461 )
          Just don't do it if you like using Uber since they'll probably ban your account
          • Re:Happened to me (Score:5, Insightful)

            by rickb928 ( 945187 ) on Thursday July 18, 2019 @11:37AM (#58946058) Homepage Journal

            Two reasons to do this anyways:

            1. Uber can get dinged hard if they retaliate against customers disputing plainly incorrect charges.

            2. Lyft.

            • Re:Happened to me (Score:4, Informative)

              by SlaveToTheGrind ( 546262 ) on Thursday July 18, 2019 @11:54AM (#58946160)

              Uber can get dinged hard if they retaliate against customers disputing plainly incorrect charges.

              Not when the customers opportunistically dispute charges they already know Uber is going to roll back themselves. That could also get you in trouble with your credit card issuer, most or all of which make you certify that you made a good-faith effort to resolve the problem with the merchant [chargebacks911.com], prior to disputing the charge with them.

              • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

                by Anonymous Coward

                If you HAVE contacted Uber about the wrong charge, whether or not they promise to reverse it, IF your card payment is due soon, you MUST dispute the charge that has NOT YET been reversed in order that you NOT BE REQUIRED to pay the wrongfully charged amount with your upcoming payment under you card's terms of service. If, like me, you pay your card's full statement balance each month, you may want to pay the statement balance MINUS the disputed amount (provided you DID initiate a dispute with your card) PL

                • Posted earlier: "Just don't do it if you like using Uber since they'll probably ban your account"

                  Banning you, or *any* form of sanction, for disputing the overcharge, no matter if you were informed of proactive resolution, is retaliation. It's a violation of virtually every merchant agreement, Fair credit laws, and a tort.

                  Most card issuers will already have a resolution process working for these sorts of events, and will permit the merchant to adjust overcharges. This is similar to what happens when weather

                  • Banning you, or *any* form of sanction, for disputing the overcharge, no matter if you were informed of proactive resolution, is retaliation.

                    Please explain (with citations to the relevant authority for this sort of situation) exactly why it's retaliation when (1) the merchant already promised they were going to fix it, and (2) in full knowledge of that, you went ahead and disputed the charge (and in so doing, as I mentioned in my last post, certifying that you made a good-faith effort to resolve the problem with the merchant) without giving the merchant any opportunity to actually fix it as they promised.

                    I'll be very surprised if you can. That

                    • OK, you plainly did not read or understand my post.

                      I was responding to a previous post:

                      "Just don't do it if you like using Uber since they'll probably ban your account"

                      Which was a warning to maybe not lodge a dispute against Uber since the errors were being proactively reversed. I disagreed with that, BTW. Addressing your post, point by point:

                      "Please explain (with citations to the relevant authority for this sort of situation) exactly why it's retaliation when (1) the merchant already promised they were goi

                • Nothing you said is incorrect, Mr[s]. AC -- it's just addressing a completely different situation than the one at issue here.

                  The problem happened on Wednesday, and Uber said they had fixed it on Thursday. There's no credit card company under the sun that requires payment immediately after the end of a billing cycle -- most are around 3 weeks. Plenty of time to understand whether the merchant is actually fixing the problem (to the extent the errant charge was even finalized on your bill before they caught

          • So then they never get that person's business again for their mistake. Person uses Lyft, instead. Brilliant.

      • Re:Happened to me (Score:5, Insightful)

        by jellomizer ( 103300 ) on Thursday July 18, 2019 @10:32AM (#58945656)

        Also some customers who are paying with debit card, may have overdrawn their account and would have a a $35 overdraft fee.

        While I understand the economics on why, banks seem to love charging people for being poor.

      • Re:Happened to me (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Rockoon ( 1252108 ) on Thursday July 18, 2019 @10:38AM (#58945718)
        Step 1 - dispute the charge if its a debit card, absolutely 100% no questions just do it
        Step 2 - never use a card that can reach into your bank account ever again, for any purpose
        Step 3 - cancel any card that can reach into your bank account

        Debit Cards may look like Credit Cards, but they are not, barely so even in the most superficial sense. There is a large amount of legal regulation on credit cards, most of them protecting you not the credit card company, regulations that do apply to debit cards. Still further, when there is an error, with a credit card they have to fight to get the money from you, whereas with a debit card you have to fight to get the money back from them.
        • by mjwx ( 966435 )

          Step 1 - dispute the charge if its a debit card, absolutely 100% no questions just do it
          Step 2 - never use a card that can reach into your bank account ever again, for any purpose
          Step 3 - cancel any card that can reach into your bank account

          Debit Cards may look like Credit Cards, but they are not, barely so even in the most superficial sense. There is a large amount of legal regulation on credit cards, most of them protecting you not the credit card company, regulations that do apply to debit cards. Still further, when there is an error, with a credit card they have to fight to get the money from you, whereas with a debit card you have to fight to get the money back from them.

          A popular myth propagated by credit card companies (Visa/MC/AMEX). You do get the same protections with debit cards, especially in most civilised countries where banks and credit providers will be raked over coals for pretending they can't apply a charge back to a debit card. Functionally, debit cards work the same as credit cards, except you cut out the middleman, that's why they love to propagate this myth that debit cards have no protection... you're screwing them out of their cut of your money when you

      • I absolutely would dispute it! They'll get hit with a $35 chargeback fee.

        No, they won't. Not if they already fixed it. In fact, not even if they fix it after you complain.

        You're just inflating your bank's customer service costs, and not costing Uber a penny.

      • They'll get hit with a $35 chargeback fee.

        No they won't. Disputes won't result in a chargeback when the company corrects their mistake. But congratulations on wasting your time and being a dick to a company trying to do the right thing. You're certainly showing them that they should be good corporate citizens in the future.

    • It happened to me. $1300 Uber Ride.

      When the final screen came up to rate the driver, were the tip amounts also based on the $1300 ride fee???

      I was wondering if some drivers got some massive tips that were later pulled...

  • You can bet... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by bobbied ( 2522392 ) on Thursday July 18, 2019 @10:10AM (#58945538)

    You know the glitch didn't pay drivers a penny more...It's OK to charge the customers too much by mistake, but heaven forbid you pay your drivers to much by mistake.

    • Uber is more than slimy enough to not need you to project such a stupid-ass strawman and then fart nonsense at it like that...
    • by neonv ( 803374 )

      Why would the glitch pay drivers more? Are you trying to say Uber needs their glitches to pay drivers more? Do you realize that the charges were refunded? You should think this through some more.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Hey, it worked for cameras [slashdot.org].

  • Prices were raised in expectation of the cars becoming fully-self-driving.

  • Two stories in a row and also the “accidental’ printing of 5 billion in tether cryptocurrency. With both fiat and crypto you are just one glitch away from ruin.
    • With both fiat and crypto you are just one glitch away from ruin.

      Fuck no; crypto makes fiat look good. I imagine there are plenty of us who never even thought we'd see that...

  • by phalse phace ( 454635 ) on Thursday July 18, 2019 @10:25AM (#58945618)

    If a fare was suppose to be $40 and Uber charges $4,000, what happens if the rider gets hit by their bank with an overdraft fee? Will Uber cover that?

    • They should. Debit cards don't have the same chargeback rules, but the offending merchant should make customers whole.

      • by mjwx ( 966435 )

        They should. Debit cards don't have the same chargeback rules, but the offending merchant should make customers whole.

        A popular myth credit card companies like to propagate is that debit cards don't have protection, the truth is they have the same regulatory protection as credit cards so if you need to do a chargeback, you can.

        But apart from that you're dead on the money, an offending merchant should fix any costs arrears caused by their error. I say should because in the US, they're very good at avoiding this obligation.

        However, what kind of savings account has a $4,000 overdraft? If a merchant tried to take $4,000

    • Will Uber cover that?

      So you've never had a bank account.

      • Maybe OP has a bank account but is not stupid enough to use a Debit card with one, so has never had to see how such screwups play out.

    • And this is why you never use a debit card outside of an ATM (and even then watch for skimmers). If your number is stolen or a merchant fucks up, your entire bank account is zero for the duration. Have fun paying bills for a couple weeks.

  • by SlaveToTheGrind ( 546262 ) on Thursday July 18, 2019 @10:48AM (#58945780)

    Damn good thing I just saved all that money on Amazon camera gear....

  • So they got all excited and started doing slimy things “by accident” again.

  • It's just an AB test.
  • "Not cool, especially on his birthday,"

    Maybe I'm getting old, but does anyone actually give a crap about their birthday anymore? Like the Patton Oswalt skit says, you get 20 birthdays. After 21, you only get a birthday on the 10's. Which, I guess if it was this guy's 40th, then I guess it's a bummer. Otherwise, pointless unneeded detail.

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