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Radiohead Release Hours of Hacked MiniDiscs To Benefit Extinction Rebellion (theguardian.com) 117

Radiohead have released a vast collection of unreleased tracks made during the sessions for 1997 album OK Computer, after a MiniDisc archive owned by frontman Thom Yorke was hacked last week by an unnamed person, who reportedly held the recordings to ransom for $150,000. From a report: The band have now made the 18 MiniDisc recordings, most of them around an hour in length, available on Bandcamp for $23. Proceeds will go to climate activists Extinction Rebellion. The band's guitarist Jonny Greenwood confirmed the hack, and said: âoeInstead of complaining -- much -- or ignoring it, we're releasing all 18 hours on Bandcamp in aid of Extinction Rebellion. Just for the next 18 days. So for $23 you can find out if we should have paid that ransom. Never intended for public consumption (though some clips did reach the cassette in the OK Computer reissue) it's only tangentially interesting. And very, very long. Not a phone download." Thom Yorke wrote of the 1.8 gigabyte collection: "It's not v interesting. There's a lot of it 0... as it's out there it may as well be out there until we all get bored and move on."
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Radiohead Release Hours of Hacked MiniDiscs To Benefit Extinction Rebellion

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  • by cmseagle ( 1195671 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:00AM (#58744862)
    The same group that plans to shut down one of the world's busiest airports for a week and a half in the middle of the summer? BBC source. [bbc.co.uk]
    • Yeah, they need the money to pay for lawyers after attacking & blocking illegally an airport, duh.

    • I'm not seeing where the airport is going to be closed.
      • I'm not seeing where the airport is going to be closed.

        I think it was paragraph 4:

        Extinction Rebellion said it was in talks with members about carrying out action to close the airport on 18 June and again from 1 July for up to 10 days if the government did not cancel plans to expand the airport.

      • I'm not seeing where the airport is going to be closed.

        Well I would suggest downloading a screen reading program to help combat your lack of eyesight.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      The same group that plans to shut down one of the world's busiest airports for a week and a half in the middle of the summer? BBC source. [bbc.co.uk]

      And the group will fly in from all over the world to do so...

      Twits.

      • by gbjbaanb ( 229885 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:07AM (#58745320)

        This is the same group thjat Emma Thompson (tv personality and all-round "luvvie") flew in specially to speak to (from LA) and then flew all the way back again (hopefully she didn't miss her tea).

        Of all the groups to give climate change charity money to, this is not the one. Its a bunch of middle class shouty activists demanding the west be subjected to self-immolation to satisfy their own inferiority complexes and need to stroke their egos.

        If they were serous about climate change, they'd be picketing an airport or coal-fired power plant in Beijing or Delhi. But they won't.

        • If they were serous about climate change

          ...we would see lots of serum flowing on the streets.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          I notice that none of your points here are targetted at any of the arguments put forward by Emma Thompson, nor those of Extinction Rebellion. Instead you resorted to little more than personal attacks and name calling.

          Perhaps you would like to put forward the names of alternative charities and explain specifically why they would represent better value for money than donating to Extinction Rebellion?

          • by Anonymous Coward

            That's not how it works. You look smarter by critiquing. If you offer alternatives, someone might point out how dumb they are, and then you'd look like the fool.

            • Yup , also the right know they've lost the fight to say that global climate change isn't real. They want to carry on so this is their new tactic like they did with Greta Thunberg. Some useful idiots then join in the pile on because they think using someone else's snark makes up for their inadequacies.
        • by jemmyw ( 624065 )
          you mean the group that got climate change back on the political agenda in the UK? And the usually more hostile to climate change governing party just put in legislation to by emission neutral by 2050. While I'll be skeptical about any government reaching that committment, the XR group has been very effective in the UK.

          You know people in the UK cannot go and picket a power station in China. So the most effective way to get those countries/people listening is to start making the changes at home. May or may n
        • ... Wait. You're criticizing them because they had a speaker, one person, who flew out to London. Because air traffic burns fuel which contributes to the problem, right? Am I characterizing that correctly?

          And you're also criticizing them for not going to Beijing or Delhi, many people making a comparable trip, in order to protest at an airport with less traffic.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:24AM (#58745448) Homepage Journal

      That just shows how fucked our democracy is.

      Politicians don't listen. Increasingly distributive protests are the only way to make them pay any attention. The democratic systems are designed to prevent people having any real influence.

      A million people marched against Brexit. We have straight-faced politicians telling us the only way to preserve democracy is to suspend democracy. Can you imagine what is going to happen when Boris tries to take us over the cliff with no deal?

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        • by Anonymous Coward

          The democratic systems are designed to prevent people having any real influence.

          Like one person having total influence, aka a dictator? Yeah.. that's by design.

          A million people marched against Brexit.

          I was under the impression that several million people, a majority of voters, voted for it. You want a tiny minority to be able to undo that?

          I'm not sure you understand what Democracy is..

          Sometimes you don't get your way.

          Technically a bit over a third (37,4%) of the voters voted for it but more than 50% of the ones that exercised their right to vote did vote for it.

          But yes you made your bed so lie in it

  • by TWX ( 665546 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:09AM (#58744920)

    I was under the impression that minidisc was a cartridge-based miniature optical disc, usually write-once, read-many medium, or professional-master, read-many medium.

    So unless the media was all loaded into computer-driven readers at the same time and somehow the drives and the computers were in a state that it was impossible to down the drives to manually eject the discs, I don't see how it's especially possible to hack a minidisc archive.

    If they mean to say that an archive of materials that were originally recorded to minidisc back in the nineties, later imported onto a computer's online file storage was hacked, that would be accurate, though wouldn't be be better just to say, "Hacked archive of Thom Yorke's Radiohead studio sessions for OK Computer released to the public by the band for charity-benefit," work best?

    • Yeah, I don't get how minidisc is relevant unless, like you say they were all somehow connected to an online computer for some reason, which is unlikely or they were originally recorded on minidisc then transferred to a computer and hacked from there which is more likely but then why does it matter the original recording medium?

      Radiohead suck though.
    • by aitikin ( 909209 )

      I was under the impression that minidisc was a cartridge-based miniature optical disc, usually write-once, read-many medium, or professional-master, read-many medium.

      FTS (emphasis mine):

      Radiohead have released a vast collection of unreleased tracks made during the sessions for 1997 album OK Computer, after a MiniDisc archive owned by frontman Thom Yorke was hacked last week by an unnamed person, who reportedly held the recordings to ransom for $150,000.

      So the headline is wrong, but the fact that it came from MiniDiscs originally is still apt.

      • I was under the impression that minidisc was a cartridge-based miniature optical disc, usually write-once, read-many medium, or professional-master, read-many medium.

        FTS (emphasis mine):

        Radiohead have released a vast collection of unreleased tracks made during the sessions for 1997 album OK Computer, after a MiniDisc archive owned by frontman Thom Yorke was hacked last week by an unnamed person, who reportedly held the recordings to ransom for $150,000.

        So the headline is wrong, but the fact that it came from MiniDiscs originally is still apt.

        That doesn't actually say one way or the other just the minidisc archive was hacked. How?

    • by jabuzz ( 182671 )

      MiniDiscs are a magento-optical storage medium and as such where always erasable.

      Players that could be connected to a computer for direct extraction of the ATRAC compressed audio stream where as rare as hen's teeth.

      • magento-optical storage medium

        This is one of those rare occasions where a typo is deliciously fitting :)

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      • Early MiniDisc players had optical out. I imagine that remained pretty common on HiFi separates versions but didn't own one of those.

        You can still buy [ametron.com] a professional drive with digital audio output.

    • by Anonymous Coward


      If they mean to say that an archive of materials that were originally recorded to minidisc back in the nineties, later imported onto a computer's online file storage was hacked, that would be accurate, though wouldn't be be better just to say, "Hacked archive of Thom Yorke's Radiohead studio sessions for OK Computer released to the public by the band for charity-benefit," work best?

      It would, but I'd say what happened is Radiohead was talking to the journalist, said some version of what you say above, and al

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Thom Yorke probably ripped the discs to 128kbps MP3 using WinAMP, and put all the files in a folder called "c:\users\thom.yourke\My Music\minidisc archive".

      You know, usual tech journalist quality reporting.

    • by kriston ( 7886 )

      Something is wrong with this report.

      I own lots of Sony MiniDiscs. What they describe simply cannot happen in any way, shape, or form.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Something is wrong with this report.
        I own lots of Sony MiniDiscs. What they describe simply cannot happen in any way, shape, or form.

        Why not? Your claim makes no sense.

        The interview says the copy of the audio from the minidiscs that was stored on a computer, was copied when that computer was hacked into.

        You can't go a week without seeing a story about how some computer was hacked into and data copied off it to be released.

        Even if you did, I don't at all understand why you would think this to be impossible.
        It would only be impossible if the data wasn't also stored on a computer and the only copy that existed was on minidisc or some other

  • Yay for them (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Shaitan ( 22585 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:16AM (#58744966)

    Turn it into a PR stunt and instead of paying a random maybe make a few bucks.

    • It's hard to call it a "stunt" unless it was orchestrated from the beginning. As it stands it looks more like damage control, but likely there wouldn't have been much damage. I can't imagine there is much substantial music in the MiniDisc demos that hasn't already been released. There was on OK Computer reissue last year with period bonus tracks, and even with those, you can tell they were starting to scrape the barrel. One of their B-sides ("How I Made My Millions") was pressed directly from a Minidisc dem
      • by Shaitan ( 22585 )

        "It's hard to call it a "stunt" unless it was orchestrated from the beginning."

        I don't see why though that is certainly possible..

        "I can't imagine there is much substantial music in the MiniDisc demos that hasn't already been released."

        Exactly. So they release for sale something they themselves indicate has no value. Why? To milk the PR value. It's better than free press, people who are curious might well even buy the thing where they never would have before so they'll get paid for this press.

  • >> ...archive owned by frontman ...was hacked last week by an unnamed person, who reportedly held the recordings to ransom... band have now made the 18 MiniDisc recordings...available on Bandcamp for $23

    So...was the "Hack" was just a publicity stunt to increase the exposure of these less-than-professional recordings ahead of their sale to the public then?
    • No asshole, the money's going to charity.
    • Yeah sure publicity stunt. Because we all know that those damn money hungry politicians release many hours of content for very little money and then maniacally laugh while lighting their cigars with monopoly money because they donated all the real money (what little was collected) to charity.

  • by Darinbob ( 1142669 ) on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @12:20PM (#58745696)

    The story is that Radiohead was being blackmailed and rather than pay the ransom they released these hours of recordings instead, snubbing the blackmailer.

    The details of what charity they give proceeds to is irrelevant to the story I think, except for Slashdot to increase ad views by creating non-existent controversies.

  • The last time I saw them perform on SNL it seemed like 3 bands performing simultaneously, each of them playing a different song that just happened to be roughly the same length. What is the point of that? Or am I just too old to understand "modern" music?
    • "modern" music

      There's a lot of breadth in both those words, and especially a lot of grey area in the word music. If you judge "modern" by any single song, or any single band you're most definitely doing it wrong.

  • Cool , I think I may buy this '
    "money goes to benefit Extinction Rebellion"
    Crap, nevermind.

  • Not very interesting, so it can be had for only $23.

    If it was worth $23, why didn't it get released earlier? Oh yeah... PR stunt.

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