FCC Admits It Was Never Actually Hacked (techcrunch.com) 214
An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: The FCC has come clean on the fact that a purported hack of its comment system last year never actually took place, after a report from its inspector general found a lack of evidence supporting the idea. Chairman Ajit Pai blamed the former chief information officer and the Obama administration for providing "inaccurate information about this incident to me, my office, Congress, and the American people." It was so galling to everyone looking for answers that the GAO was officially asked to look into it. The letter requesting the office's help at the time complained that the FCC had "not released any records or documentation that would allow for confirmation that an attack occurred, that it was effectively dealt with, and that the FCC has begun to institute measures to thwart future attacks and ensure the security of its systems." That investigation is still going on, but one conducted by the FCC's own OIG resulted in the report Pai cites.
Pai's statement was issued before the OIG publicized its report, as one does when a report is imminent that essentially says your agency has been clueless at best or deliberately untruthful at worst, and for more than a year. To be clear, the report is still unpublished, though its broader conclusions are clear from Pai's statement. In it he slathers Bray with the partisan brush and asserts that the report exonerates his office: "I am deeply disappointed that the FCC's former [CIO], who was hired by the prior Administration and is no longer with the Commission, provided inaccurate information about this incident to me, my office, Congress, and the American people. This is completely unacceptable. I'm also disappointed that some working under the former CIO apparently either disagreed with the information that he was presenting or had questions about it, yet didn't feel comfortable communicating their concerns to me or my office. On the other hand, I'm pleased that this report debunks the conspiracy theory that my office or I had any knowledge that the information provided by the former CIO was inaccurate and was allowing that inaccurate information to be disseminated for political purposes." UPDATE: The complete Office of Inspector General report has been released, refuting claims that a cyberattack was responsible for disrupting the FCC's comment system last year.
Pai's statement was issued before the OIG publicized its report, as one does when a report is imminent that essentially says your agency has been clueless at best or deliberately untruthful at worst, and for more than a year. To be clear, the report is still unpublished, though its broader conclusions are clear from Pai's statement. In it he slathers Bray with the partisan brush and asserts that the report exonerates his office: "I am deeply disappointed that the FCC's former [CIO], who was hired by the prior Administration and is no longer with the Commission, provided inaccurate information about this incident to me, my office, Congress, and the American people. This is completely unacceptable. I'm also disappointed that some working under the former CIO apparently either disagreed with the information that he was presenting or had questions about it, yet didn't feel comfortable communicating their concerns to me or my office. On the other hand, I'm pleased that this report debunks the conspiracy theory that my office or I had any knowledge that the information provided by the former CIO was inaccurate and was allowing that inaccurate information to be disseminated for political purposes." UPDATE: The complete Office of Inspector General report has been released, refuting claims that a cyberattack was responsible for disrupting the FCC's comment system last year.
Well... This is Good news... (Score:1)
Isn't it? Well?
Somebody messed up and he got himself canned at least.
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No, he's still president.
Re: Well... This is Good news... (Score:3, Insightful)
The economy was already growing(despite Trump's exhortations to the contrary), unemployment is being counted the same way as it was before, which Trump himself said was a lie, and our relationship with North Korea is the same as it was before, despite Trump's claims to meaningful accomplishments, the net result of his summit in Singapore was a waste of tax dollars.
Oh wait, the deficit is growing, Puerto Rico is still being ignored, and the Turnip administration is whining about its own child internment poli
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Re: Well... This is Good news... (Score:4, Insightful)
You skipped the most important part of his point:
unemployment is being counted the same way as it was before, which Trump himself said was a lie
Re: Well... This is Good news... (Score:1)
Nearly all the benefit of the "improving" economy is going to the already rich (real wages adjusted for inflation have stagnated since the 70s), and NK is still building nukes. Every "accomplishment" claimed by the retard in chief thus far has been a sham perpetrated on the ignorant.
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I can make it seem like I'm successful even if I'm not as well, at least for a short time. I simply mortgage my house and go on a credit fueled spending spree, which is exactly what the Federal government is doing. And you'd have to be living under a rock miss the fact that the North Korea "peace deal" is not really going anywhere. The "demolition" of the nuclear testing site was likely a PR stunt and whenever anyone talks about actions instead of loose promises the North Koreans feign outrage.
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The US is too accustomed to its way of dealing with small countries. They concede nothing and demand unilateral disarmament, or else.
This doesn't work well with a country that has some delusions of grandeur but also declared that they wouldn't finish like Libya and Iraq.
I wonder all this will end.
End result lol the US will sanction the whole planet, and the rest of the world will ignore it and do as they please. Mexico will build the wall, to keep the US out.
Re: Well... This is Good news... (Score:3)
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Luckily for me, my wife and I live well below our means and have significant investments despite being late 30s/early 40s. Our goal is to retire in our mid 50s and live only off investment income. This "boom" has helped us out but we're already in the top 15% of income earners in the country. Poor people are getting more poor. This is a trend that has been going on for a lon
It doesn't do any good to fire them (Score:5, Insightful)
This won't stop until Americans make refusing corporate & PAC money the primary litmus test for their candidates; _especially_ in primary elections. You can't serve two masters. Either you serve the people or you serve the donor class.
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Re: It doesn't do any good to fire them (Score:3)
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Somehow we've come to a point where using the IRS, FBI, DOJ and secret courts to attack your political enemies is not only not seen as an impeachable offense, but it is worthy of high praise.
The ends justify the means just as they always have, Comrade!
Strat
Re: It doesn't do any good to fire them (Score:1)
You are wrong.
There is nothing special about "the rich" because most of them inherited it. True, wealth does buy education but it does not buy intelligence, which is scattered randomly among the populace.
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Oh look, more "job creators" bullshit. The rich aren't "creating jobs" out of the goodness of their heart. They hire people because they get more out of them than they pay them. That's very much the definition of a leech.
You can argue that there is a role for the wealthy in society, but that doesn't mean they should be in charge of anything. In fact, I'd argue that they are often among the most incompetent people.
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Once you get rich beyond a certain amount, you can live off of the gains of even the most modest investments without actually spending any money. You get to live for free just by starting off rich.
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I didn't say that the rich are "so incompetent," I said that their ranks often include some of the most incompetent. As for how they stay wealthy, it's because once you reach real wealth, you could spend the rest of your life snorting miles of cocaine, and still have enough money for your grandchildren to do the same.
Plus, compound interest, good attorneys, tax havens, and accountants, along with governments bending over backwards to help you retain your wealth.
Your assumption is that wealth is gather
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Typical of this administration (Score:5, Informative)
Taking a page right out of Trump's book... blame the guy who came before you.
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But this guy was appointed to the FCC board by the previous administration. We shouldn't forget that fact.
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There is that. Plenty of blame to go around for both parties.
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Were you sleeping through the last Democratic primary?
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But this guy was appointed to the FCC board by the previous administration. We shouldn't forget that fact.
I see - So it is O'Blama's fault obviously. He colluded with Trump to appoint Pai, after using the Pizzagate time machine to sneak back and forth in time and told Pai that he had to pretend the FCC site was hacked in order to implement a policy that after implementation, O'Blama is getting billions from the people who will profit from this. He is going to split it 50/50 with succubus Hillary Clinton in thier secret fake moon landing quonset hut and chemtrail storage facility in Area 51.
Perhaps O'Blama, t
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Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, all the same side of politics, all the same corruption, all the same policies, all blaming each other, whilst all agreeing in back rooms and collecting the same bonuses in the same tax havens. The clean up has commenced, and Trump was just the bull tossed into the establishment china shop to create chaos. Woo hoo, the fun has only just begun. The next three US electoral cycles will be quite interesting and more chaotic as they progress. The people demanding their voice, l
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It seems you missed the last eight years of democrat rule.
Clinton took a 9 figure "donation" in exchange for supporting a big mining deal. Nobody even batted an eye on the left. That's gumption.
Obama expanded wars into a dozen countries - even going for regime change in Libya - all without bothering to go to congress for authorization. He had a secret, extra-judicial "kill list" that he used to target people for assassination... including american citizens. Remember code pink protesting that? Yeah, not
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But this guy was appointed to the FCC board by the previous administration. We shouldn't forget that fact.
Given the fact that of the 5 members of the FCC board no more than 3 of them can be from one party the previous administration didn't have much choice in accepting Pai for the commission. I guess they could have rejected him but it would have caused more political outcry than it would have been worth and they would have got someone similar anyway.
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Re:Typical of this administration (Score:5, Funny)
Taking a page right out of Trump's book... blame the guy who came before you.
There's a joke that goes with that...
A new hire manager type was starting a new job and knowing the previous manager was highly praised showed up the day the previous manager was scheduled to leave to ask his advice and find out the secrets of the job if he could. The exiting manager was just walking out when he arrived and told him "I left you instructions in what's now your desk. Just look in the top drawer. Everything you need to know is in those but follow the instructions carefully. Good Luck!" and he left claiming he had an appointment to keep.
The next work day, the new manager couldn't wait to see what the instructions where so he arrived early and got though the onboarding process as quickly as he could. At noon, just after meeting his new team he was finally shown his desk and allowed to settle in and get to work. He sat down, opening the desk drawer and found three separate envelops. One was labeled "Open Now", another was labeled "Open in 12 months" and the final one was labeled "Open in 24 months" which seemed weird but taking the letter opener out he opened the first one.
"Welcome to your new job. I hope you have the same success I did. Here is what I recommend you do. For the next 12 months you should keep things mostly as they are. Any problems you have with the system or the individuals on the team you can blame on me. Tell management that you have identified the problem and it was the previous manager's fault."
So that's what he did. For 12 moths, any problems where blamed on the previous manager and it worked. He was getting good performance reviews, people thought he was effective, everybody was happy with him. He couldn't wait to see the advice in the next envelop.
At 12 months, he went into his office, closed the door, and opened the second letter. "Reorganize the whole department. Scramble every job, rewrite every process. Call it process improvement, business to process alignment, what ever you want. Tell everybody you are fixing the issues that have plagued you for the last 12 months. Now you must stop blaming me, but you can now blame all problems on the team and the reorganization and rewrite of the process. 'We are all learning the new process and working out the kinks while we learn our new responsibilities' is now your theme." So that's what he did. It was bumpy, filled with problems that he blamed on the reorganization but everybody like him still and his performance appraisals where again excellent that year.
As 24 months approached, the wisdom of the previous manager was apparent and his advice was working really well. People where singing the current managers abilities and hard work. There where lots of problems, but the belief was the new guy was working those out and everybody was happy. Again, as the 24th month started, the new manager entered his office, closed the door, took a deep breath as he slipped the last envelop out of his desk drawer to read it and find out what pearls of wisdom he was about to get and how this would again advance his career. The pervious manager was AMAZING!
He opens the last letter and it says only this: "Write three letters.. "
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Taking a page right out of Trump's book... blame the guy who came before you.
Trump's book? I seem to recall Obama blaming a failing housing market and rapidly rising unemployment on Bush, well after Bush's term was over. Blaming the guy who came before you is Page 1 of the Democratic Handbook, I recall Clinton blamed every problem on the Bush who came before him as well. I'm sure Jimmy Carter blamed everything on his predecessor as well. Refusing to take personal responsibility for your actions is the foundation of the left.
*Every* administration blames something on prior administration or takes credit for something that actually happened during the previous administration - both Democratic and Republican. Some of this is justified and some of it isn't. The former is often because many things take time to heat up or cool off and can cross into new administrations, the latter is because politician are dicks.
As for "refusing to take personal responsibility for your actions", that is classic Trump -- and literally taught in th
Re:Typical of this administration (Score:5, Informative)
I seem to recall Obama blaming a failing housing market and rapidly rising unemployment on Bush
That's because George II was in charge when the sub-prime mortgage crisis happened. (Not that I imagine for a second he understood what was going on).
I'm sure Jimmy Carter blamed everything...
Would that be the same Jimmy Carter who was defeated by that Mr. Reagan who colluded with Iran to keep a bunch of hostages in prison until after the election?
Then never complained about it?
I am pretty sure it is.
Refusing to take personal responsibility for your actions is the foundation of the left.
Stop pretending there is any left in US politics, there is right, and a far right and your comment just confirms you don't understand any of it.
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That's because George II was in charge when the sub-prime mortgage crisis happened.
Which was created by the CRA that was enacted under, umm, let's see, who was that? And exacerbated by Frank when he denied there was any problem at all, when Bush was trying to get better regulation put in place. It may have come to a crisis during Bush, but it began a long time before that. It needed to reach critical mass, just like people tell us there is a tipping point in global climate change. Tomorrow's crisis will come from CO2 emitted a decade ago. The banking crisis was the result of bad policy fo
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To be fair, it was that weird Mr. Reagan who started the whole thing. He was really good at getting Americans to vote against their own interests.
Also good at avoiding going to jail.
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Which was created by the CRA that was enacted under, umm, let's see, who was that?
Nope. That's a falsehood. It was never the CRA, it was entirely the bank's own fault, and if you must blame a law, try the deruglation of Gramm-Leach-Bliley act.
And exacerbated by Frank when he denied there was any problem at all, when Bush was trying to get better regulation put in place.
so let's see, the President you mindlessly support was supposedly doing something, but was stopped by a single Congressman from another party, one that was in the minority? That's your defense?
It may have come to a crisis during Bush, but it began a long time before that.
True, Republicans had their efforts going back into the 1980s, but yes, more recently, they did pass the aforementioned act, and had the House starting in
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As far left as the US gets right there youngone.
There you go, assuming I live in the US.
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Refusing to take personal responsibility for your actions is the foundation of the left.
Any comment that is "the left always does X" and "only the right does Y" is a troll. Nobody is retarded enough to type on a keyboard and truly believe that one party or the other has some lock on truth and justice and the other is controlled by Satan.
You aren't that dumb, and you aren't fooling anyone.
The Right are much better than the Left (Score:2)
The Right are much better than the Left at doing both X and Y.
Where X=dodgy deals and Y=getting (evil) things done
The Left would love to do more of X and even Y, but they just don't have the gumption.
Nice fellow, that Obama.
Re:Typical of this administration (Score:4, Informative)
A quick googled turned up this article
http://www.aei.org/publication... [aei.org]
Okefenokee (Score:4, Insightful)
Is there a single agency, department, or aide in this degenerate president's administration that is not steeped in corruption and lies?
I would feel better if there was, because otherwise I'd have to begrudgingly acknowledge that Trump is history's greatest evil genius. I mean, he must have accidentally hired an honest person, right? I mean, even his campaign was a parade of reprobates and sleaze. It just never stops.
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They still have a long way to go before they beat Nixon's corruption record.
Re: Okefenokee (Score:5, Informative)
Don't just sit there and lie. The supposed hack they're talking about occurred during the first week of May, 2017. Here is the story as originally reported right fucking here.
https://yro.slashdot.org/story... [slashdot.org]
And the original:
http://thehill.com/policy/tech... [thehill.com]
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There is a story of this happening in 2014, 2015 and 2017 as well, 2014 is the earliest instance that I could find of that administration lying about net neutrality comments being "hacked" in favor of the consumer.
Bray leaked information to Motherboard in 2014, following another petition to his viewers by John Oliver which caused the website to crash, claiming that malicious activity was responsible.
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Could you be more wrong?
The "attack" happened in http://thehill.com/policy/tech... [slashdot.org]">May of 2017 after John Oliver put up a website called "GoFCCYourself" which redirected to the comment page for net neutrality proceedings.
Also, Trump was elected in 2016, which is not two years later. The inauguration was in January 2017 which was still a few months short of two years later.
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Well, that link was fucked up. Here it is in better form.
http://thehill.com/policy/tech... [thehill.com]
It wasn't that it got hacked... (Score:5, Insightful)
It's that some unknown parties were abusing the comment system and automatically generating comments supporting getting rid of net neutrality. When reached, many of the people said they didn't even know what it was, and definitely didn't fill out the comment form.
In addition, there were some very peculiar things going on with it. Such as the timestamps correlated with the names in order (alphabetically inserted).
Someone was definitely doing something screwy, and it was in support of dropping net neutrality. Somehow I think Ajit, being the slimeball that he is, won't be looking into this.
Both were horribly abusing it, more opposed (Score:3)
The comment period for the NN rules was a shit show all around, and utterly failed to fulfill it's purpose because people on both sides faked and spammed millions of times. By far, most of the fakes / spams were opposing the rule. Roughly 87% of the crap was opposed, probably because those who were in favor (isps) were more likely to understand that spamming shit comments would be absolutely pointless, as opposed to the Facebook reactionaries who had until then never heard of a "comment period".
It's helpful
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By far, most of the fakes / spams were opposing the rule.
Russian troll ads were shown to the opposition of such views, in order to galvanize voters. And the fakes/spams in the FCC comment period on net neutrality were designed to make it look like those who opposed net neutrality were trying to game the system.
So Aaron Swartz is a Russian ISP plant? (Score:3)
The millions of duplicative spams sent in opposition came primarily from Demand Progress, an organization co-founded by Aaron Swartz orginally to protest seizure of domains like MegaUpload which exist primarily to engage in commerical criminal copyright infringement for profit.
Is it your assertion that Aaron Swartz and his associates were trying to "make it look like those who opposed net neutrality were trying to game the system", apparently in collaboration with the Russians? Because that's who submitted
Um... that's hacking. (Score:3)
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It's been well established (Score:2)
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There were fake comments, but the comments that were claimed by Pai to be part of the "hack" (the pro-net neutrality comments, particularly in response to John Oliver) were real.
Tell Tale Sign... (Score:5, Insightful)
Ok... this is a mostly IT audience which should have noticed the red herring when this happened.
They claimed it was a "hack". No one hacks a web site to skew comments... they script the submissions. Bots. Or humans employed to manually add scripted comments.
So think about it- the FCC leadership is either so incompetent, or so evil, that they blamed the "truth" on hackers in order to avoid the appearance of unpopularity.
I point this out resigned to the fact that not many people care. An exercise in futility. Move along. Nothing to see here.
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I don't think you should get caught up on the use of the word "hack". It's used pretty loosely these days.
Russians "hacked" the election (Score:2)
By posting Facebook articles.
Words and meanings are only loosely connected.
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I had a subject, but it was too long, sorry (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I had a subject, but it was too long, sorry (Score:5, Insightful)
Pai is simply trying to shift the blame for his own lying. He's the one that claimed this was hacking. He's the one that tried to game the comments using this line and he's the one that right up until the IG report came out claimed it was hacking. Now that the report is out saying he's a liar he's trying to deflect that to say it's not his fault.
He's the head of the FCC, everything the FCC does is his fault, even if he wasn't the jackass on TV making these claims he's now blaming on someone else he would still be responsible. But I guess because he was nominated by Trump he's in the Trump class where he dosn't take responsibility for anything that happens under his watch.
So much for responsible government administration where people take responsibility for the people who serve under them, in the new Trump paradigm the leader isn't responsible for anything, including the things they actually did do.
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Just shows how stupid the previous administration was to appoint Pai.
The Right would never do such a thing, they always appoint reliable people.
Lying liar says what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Lying liar says what? (Score:4, Insightful)
Short story is pro-Trump folks don't actually care if he or his team are liars. The important part is that he is their liar.
The hilarious part (Score:2)
is there will be exactly zero consequences even after admitting they lied to pretty much everyone.
Zero. None. Nada. Zip.
As I posted in another thread about corporations and their standby scapegoats whenever they get caught doing something immoral, unethical
or downright illegal, so too does the government have their pockets full of excuses ready to go when they fall into the spotlight of shame.
They always tend to blame everyone except themselves.
Yet, so deep is the bullshit, they are too blind to realize
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They are not blind. They know what they are doing and they are not at all concerned about "the problem". We are stupid to allow this behavior.
It's a feature, not a hack (Score:2)
Most Are Misunderstanding Original Post (Score:2)
Pai was announcing an upcoming report from the FCC's inspector general. That inspector general is David L. Hunt. https://www.fcc.gov/inspector-general [fcc.gov] He was appointed in 2011, during the Obama administration, http://thehill.com/policy/technology/137015-david-hunt-named-fcc-inspector-general [thehill.com] So this an Obama appointee reporting on an Obama appointee, not Pai going after an Obama administration official.
Snowball did it (Score:2)
Party of personal responsibility!
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I don't see this as "worse". They former CIO who made the improper report has been let go and after the GAO investigation the record is being set straight.
This is how things like this should be handled. If you cannot do your job, you get canned. So if you report that you got hacked, when it wasn't a hack that caused the problem, you get canned. Just like you'd get canned if you got hacked because you didn't secure your system per standard industry practice.
Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse (Score:5, Insightful)
He wasn't 'let go', he left on his own, long, long, long before the report that implicated him. Even if he was the one to blame (he wasn't), it doesn't change the fact that, first, the FCC's comment system was a POS that shouldn't be used to get public opinion, and second, that someone used the fact the POS comment system failed to get partisan legislation passed. Sounds like an inside job to me.
And of course, who's to blame but Obama! Man that guy sure does get around.
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Interesting, you make it seem by your wording as if the former CIO had been let go recently, yet he left the office over a year ago. An entire year the FCC has had to look into this and yet they chose not to. Chairman Pai vehemently dislikes ex-Chairman Wheeler, under whom this CIO was appointed, and yet took the man's word at face-value and didn't bother to look into the issue after dismissing him? Oh wait,t hey didn't dismiss him, he left.
Now, this whole thing about a DDoS... I really don't expect Pai, wh
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If they wanted to they could keep saying it was a hack which makes me wonder why they don't.
Re:How does it debunk it? It's worse (Score:5, Insightful)
Technically, what happened actually does fit the definition of a DDoS attack. Oliver found a deep link that wasn't supposed to get much traffic, exposed it and encouraged people to send lots of traffic there..
Not if the traffic is intended to actually use the service offered at link. DDos attacks try to block servers by keeping connections open as long as possible WITHOUT transmitting data.
Didn't Oliver merely encouraged people to use their free speech by using a feedback form that was especially intended for this kind of feedback?
I would not want to give businesses or agencies a blueprint for handling critics by setting up a web form on a server too weak to handle it and then sue for hacking when some user feedback brought it down....
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It's bitztream the autism-hating, custom EpiPen-hating, Musk-hating, Qualcomm-hating, Firefox tabs-hating, Slashdot editors-hating Slashdot troll!
So? (Score:3)
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So by exposing the link that takes you to that actual comment form (instead of taking the circuitous route the FCC set up) is trying to set up a human level DDOS?
His intent was to let people actually comment on the proposed removal of net neutrality instead of spending their time looking for the actual comment form.
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If you want to get specific, he actually reduced server load by not bogging down the server with requests for superfluous pages. That it encouraged more action is just a side benefit.
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Keep in mind that the political left heavily supports the idea of unionization.
Infowars called - they want you back
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> Infowars called - they want you back
I'm not sure if you're being voluntarily ignorant, or you're just letting your personal opinions take over your ability to read poll data.
I'm not sure if you are confusing me with someone who bases much of anything on "poll data".
If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
Chill, my dude. You have me more convinced than ever that you need to be on infowars.
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It's bitztream the autism-hating, Musk-hating, custom EpiPen-hating, Qualcomm-hating, Firefox tabs-hating, Slashdot editors-hating Slashdot troll!
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Seems more accurate to say that like capitalism, communism and socialism naturally fail without regulation.
Re: How does it debunk it? It's worse (Score:4, Insightful)
This administration? Wake up, Obama is no longer in office, we elected a golden pumpkin.
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What is the deal with the orange face? Is it an improvement over the previous orange hair?
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You did catch that this was blamed on the former CTO right? Seems that the person responsible no longer works at the FCC, which is as it should be.
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As in:
Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked. [imdb.com]
Re:consequences of manipulation (Score:5, Insightful)
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I think you mean that they are using someone who has been gone for a year as a scapegoat to hide their blatant lies.
Let's call it blaming the mis-information on an Ex-Employee. Happens all the time.
BTW - A lie is "an intentionally false statement" so please step back from calling somebody a liar until you can prove they knew what they where saying wasn't true and they indented to mislead when they made it. Being mis-informed and making a statement that turns out to be false, does not make one a liar, nor does saying something that can be interpreted in a way that makes it untrue. In order to call someone a liar you
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They literally blocked further investigation. You can sit there all day and say that the smoking gun has no fingerprints on it, but the gun has been shot.
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We aren't fucking idiots Pai. We know it was never hacked.
Because it's not his JOB to keep the IT infrastructure from being hacked, he's just a commissioner. He's just the appointed chairman of the FCC, it's similar to being on the chairman of the board of a company. He just has a vote in the hiring and firing decisions of the executives.
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