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23,000 HTTPS Certs Axed After CEO Emails Private Keys (arstechnica.com) 72

An anonymous reader quotes Ars Technica: A major dust-up on an Internet discussion forum is touching off troubling questions about the security of some browser-trusted HTTPS certificates when it revealed the CEO of a certificate reseller emailed a partner the sensitive private keys for 23,000 TLS certificates. The email was sent on Tuesday by the CEO of Trustico, a UK-based reseller of TLS certificates issued by the browser-trusted certificate authorities Comodo and, until recently, Symantec...

In communications earlier this month, Trustico notified DigiCert that 50,000 Symantec-issued certificates Trustico had resold should be mass revoked because of security concerns. When Jeremy Rowley, an executive vice president at DigiCert, asked for proof the certificates were compromised, the Trustico CEO emailed the private keys of 23,000 certificates, according to an account posted to a Mozilla security policy forum. The report produced a collective gasp among many security practitioners who said it demonstrated a shockingly cavalier treatment of the digital certificates that form one of the most basic foundations of website security... In a statement, Trustico officials said the keys were recovered from "cold storage," a term that typically refers to offline storage systems. "Trustico allows customers to generate a Certificate Signing Request and Private Key during the ordering process," the statement read. "These Private Keys are stored in cold storage, for the purpose of revocation."

"There's no indication the email was encrypted," reports Ars Technica, and the next day DigiCert sent emails to Trustico's 23,000+ customers warning that their certificates were being revoked, according to Bleeping Computer.

In a related development, Thursday Trustico's web site went offline, "shortly after a website security expert disclosed a critical vulnerability on Twitter that appeared to make it possible for outsiders to run malicious code on Trustico servers."
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23,000 HTTPS Certs Axed After CEO Emails Private Keys

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  • When Jeremy Rowley, an executive vice president at DigiCert, asked for proof the certificates were compromised, the Trustico CEO emailed the private keys of 23,000 certificates

    Those certificates are DEFINITELY compromised now.

    • When Jeremy Rowley, an executive vice president at DigiCert, asked for proof the certificates were compromised, the Trustico CEO emailed the private keys of 23,000 certificates

      Those certificates are DEFINITELY compromised now.

      TFA seems to imply that he emailed the private keys in order to prove that they were compromised. Which seems like an appropriate thing to do.

      • by mysidia ( 191772 )

        ... Which seems like an appropriate thing to do.

        No... it is NOT appropriate for a CA or a reseller of a CA to retain customers' private keys in the first place --- it is even MORESO inappropriate for a CA to deliberately extract and use in any manner for any purpose a customer's private key from "secure cold storage" without that customer's specific authorization.

        Basically this changed the situation from "There are security concerns related to this certificates", to --- This CA reseller deliberately

        • No... it is NOT appropriate for a CA or a reseller of a CA to retain customers' private keys in the first place

          I'm guessing that was the compromise Trustico was reporting. The private keys should've been deleted immediately after they were generated for the customer. But Trustico probably found during an audit that they hadn't been deleted and were still on their servers somewhere. Since they couldn't prove that those private keys hadn't been copied, they erred on the side of caution and declared them

          • It makes you wonder how the CEO got the keys to begin with.
        • >No... it is NOT appropriate for a CA or a reseller of a CA to retain customers' private keys in the first place

          Well that's not what I said, is it?

          Emailing the keys to someone is an appropriate way to prove to them that the keys have been compromised. Now go and be contrarian somewhere else.

      • ever here of secure file shares?

    • by Nkwe ( 604125 ) on Sunday March 04, 2018 @03:10AM (#56204493)

      When Jeremy Rowley, an executive vice president at DigiCert, asked for proof the certificates were compromised, the Trustico CEO emailed the private keys of 23,000 certificates

      Those certificates are DEFINITELY compromised now.

      The first to shoot themselves in the foot would be anyone who doesn't generate their own private key when they purchase a certificate. The CA is only supposed to sign the public parts of your certificate, it is not supposed to ever have access to the private key. Letting your certificate vendor create a private key (and subsequently have access to it) is unwise and insecure.

    • by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Sunday March 04, 2018 @05:26AM (#56204723)

      The level of stupidity expressed in this is staggering. I mean it is not only the fact that somebody with the least bit of clue would never email secret keys without protection, it also is that he could get them in the first place and do this. This means that DigiCert is completely compromised itself due to non-existing or easily bypassed security policies and should under no circumstances be trusted again.

    • Those certificates are DEFINITELY compromised now.

      Wrong analogy. Bullet meets foot implies that the action of the CEO achieved something other than what he was hoping. He wanted to revoke those certificates anyway, and when questioned whether they were compromised he compromised them.

      Nail meets coffin.

    • I don't get the fuss. If they are compromised, they are compromised.

  • Sophos has a trusted root CA embedded in their enterprise firewalls which allows the firewall to launch man-in-the-middle attacks against clients to spy on them. That means all you have to do to launch a successful man-in-the-middle attack yourself against HTTPS traffic is to gut a Sophos firewall and find the private key embedded in it.
    • They use the same key pair for every firewall?

      • They use a keypair that's embedded into all the major browsers as a trusted root CA - so chances are yeah.
        • Does anybody know which root CA this is? So that I can mark it "untrusted" locally in my Firefox.
          • it was a re-seller that did this, not the root. DigiCert is the root and they asked for proof from the re-seller that the keys were compromised before they revoked them. The re-seller CEO sent the private keys to DigiCert via standard email with no protection.

    • by Nkwe ( 604125 )

      Sophos has a trusted root CA embedded in their enterprise firewalls which allows the firewall to launch man-in-the-middle attacks against clients to spy on them. That means all you have to do to launch a successful man-in-the-middle attack yourself against HTTPS traffic is to gut a Sophos firewall and find the private key embedded in it.

      You would have to install the root cert certificate from the firewall CA into all your clients for that to work. In an enterprise if you want to sniff HTTPS traffic, you may chose to do this (since in an enterprise you control the client machines), but as soon as you chose to do this, you open up huge security holes.

      • Nope, it's included in all the major browsers (I only noticed it after installing a privacy-geared browser far from the mainstream which didn't include the bundled root CAs for Sophos.)
        • Thatâ(TM)s really not true though, is it? There is an appliance CA keyed for the machine and which generates an appliance cert. The CA is NOT in the default trust store of any browser. It has to be explicitly downloaded from the appliance and added to trust. No idea where you got that nonsense from!
          • Firefox, Chrome, Opera, IE, and Safari didn't complain about it - I switched to a more secure version of Firefox with locked down privacy features when I noticed it, turns out they don't include the certs allowing for corporations to override websites to monitor traffic going over their network.
  • What, were they just loose on his desktop next to the vacation photos?

  • Dumbasses gotta dumbass.

  • If you're using email in 2018 and it's not encrypted it, stop using it, simple! The average person and especially executives, have no sense of security or secure operations. I can point to numerous companies, where even the CTO's and CSO's are widely unqualified to hold those positions, and they would and have, send non-encrypted email containing very sensitive information.

    If society isn't going to grow up and start encrypting all email communication, then it's time to get rid of email.
  • by Tony Isaac ( 1301187 ) on Sunday March 04, 2018 @11:22AM (#56205503) Homepage

    Many CEOs are just technical enough to be dangerous. Never give your CEO:
    - Direct access to your database server
    - Administrator passwords of any kind, even to their own laptop
    - Access to server rooms
    - PRIVATE KEYS!

    You CAN give a CEO a MacBook Air. They'll be happy with the sleek design, and they won't be able to do much damage, since not a lot of "work" software actually runs on it.

  • This is why Executives are not kings. There are parts of the business that they should not have casual access to. That is not to say they do not have a right to review and inspect with appropriate parties involved in the process, but access to data and tools like this is not the same thing as keys to the front door.

    • by Teun ( 17872 )
      Although his action to mail the certs was not smart, the initial problem was not the executive.
      The Initial problem was his company had kept copies of the private keys, an absolute no-no and when he(?) found out he wanted to communicate which keys were to be revoked.

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