Strict New Security Measures Put In Place For CES 2016 Attendees (cepro.com) 91
CIStud writes: Due to the recent terror events, the Consumer Technology Association is instituting drastic new security measures for attendees coming to the International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas from Janury 5-9, 2016. Attendees will be subject to metal detector screening and bomb-sniffing dogs, but the biggest potential bottleneck is that laptop computer bags are being discouraged. Bags with wheels will not even be allowed.
Cowards (Score:3, Interesting)
America -- big bunch of fucking pussies....
*sigh*
Proud to be an old school red neck.
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America does have a lot of women working in the pornographic industry.
Re: Cowards (Score:2)
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But pretty much everybody with wheeled luggage just uses it to transport guns and bombs. It's pretty much the reason why wheeled luggage was invented.
Sure, you might find the rare person who would store person items like notebooks, laptops, cameras, but these people probably account for only 1-2% of all users of wheeled luggage.
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It does encourage wearing tight-fitting clothes. Disclosure offsets the danger.
Are you kidding? In the US disclosure would be the danger.
hmmm (Score:1)
if its a credible threat, shouldn't the event be canceled.
if its not credible why the drama.
Re: hmmm (Score:2, Funny)
Two words: three more words.
Seriously though, "security theater".
No laptop bags? (Score:2)
Didn't they try that at COMDEX one year? I think they caught hell fo rit.
Obligatory Question (Score:3)
Long lines (Score:5, Insightful)
What are they going to do when the terrorists realize that the long queues waiting to get through the security checkpoints are a ripe target?
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I always think the same at the college where I teach; the single biggest attack surface, and the easiest to reach, is the large packed line outside the school on days when they decide to do universal ID checks. (Fortunately they only do this on the days immediately following some national tragedy.) It seems much safer on the days where a security guard is just alert and actually watching the people walking in, instead of doing mindless heads-down busy work checking ID cards.
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Are there really going to be long lines? I'm not clear on what real purpose these large trade shows serve anymore, other than to give tech journalists an excuse to get away from home for a few days.
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Not sure. I always assumed that the terrorists had a part in designing the unconveniences at airports, shows, and the like. Either foreign terrorists or job-preserving bureaucrats; it is sometimes hard to distinguish them. For either group, the idea is to give a large collection of easy targets.
A later committee chooses which targets get hit this month. Sometim
CES 2017 - No tech allowed? (Score:3)
I am probably over-reacting, but this does seem to be a little over the top? What next CES 2017, where only Hamish approved technology is permitted or lithium free access?
Re:Bags with wheels will not even be allowed. (Score:5, Funny)
What is wrong with bags with wheels?
Wheels are a symbol of science, engineering and progress. If you have wheels you are siding with the subversives.
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The theory I've seen going around online is that if it is too heavy to carry, it might be explosive. Things light enough to carry make poor shrapnel. I'm not sure I buy this argument, but there it is.
Lawyers (Score:1)
What is wrong with bags with wheels?
Lawyers.
Bags with wheels in a professional context usually means lawyers going to a mediation, arbitration, or trial.
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In terms of security theater, nothing. In terms of space and congestion, CES has needed to ban roller bags for years. Most likely this is a case of taking care of multiple problems in one go.
Why? (Score:1)
No really. Why?
It's an electronics show you idiots.
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Members of the "home of the brave" are pissing themselves over "Duh Mooslims!!"
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So in light of the announced intent of Daesh and al Qaeda to kill innocent people, examples like San Bernandino, Paris, Mumbai, London, Madrid, and thousands and thousands more, you think a minor security precaution is unwarranted and somehow shows poor judgement?
1. At least half of your handle is well chosen. (Which is left as an exercise for the reader.)
2. Your comment is kind of dumb.
3. "Duh Mooslims!!" - classy. Does your misspelling make a suicide bomber less lethal? If so I'm sure the FBI would l
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The reason death from terrorism is limited in the West is effective policing. There isn't any "naturally" occurring level that "just happens". In places where it is uncontrolled it can be a significant source of death and destruction.
Maybe you're the one that needs to accept some things. People don't go in the water when sharks are spotted, they put up lightning rods to protect from lightning strikes, and they take many protective measures in areas where hurricanes are a threat such as stockpiling suppli
back in the las vegas mob days they made it so tha (Score:2)
back in the las vegas mob days they made it so that there will no need for BS like this.
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No it isn't. Someone would have emailed me. I go almost every year and I'm not even "in the business." I just find it interesting. I play, "Spot the Fed." Actually, I've missed the last two but, still... I'll be attending this year, missus can stay home or come with me or do whatever. I'm still going. I will not be attending CES this year but that's because I already wasn't planning on attending. I've not been for a few years as it's not that important to me.
Sounds like security theater (Score:3)
And a total waste of time. But people have to feel safe, so why not?
Imagine getting patted down or bodyscanned before entering Wal-Mart during the holday shopping season (after the 2017 Black Friday terrorist bombings and shootings in Ft. Lauderdale, Boise, and Albequerque.)
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And a total waste of time. But people have to feel safe, so why not?
Imagine getting patted down or bodyscanned before entering Wal-Mart during the holday shopping season (after the 2017 Black Friday terrorist bombings and shootings in Ft. Lauderdale, Boise, and Albequerque.)
I thought that's what they did on your way out of Wal-Mart.
I don't shop at stores whose trust in me is so low that a guard has to check me 5 feet from the register.
And the winner is... (Score:5, Insightful)
Sounds like the terrorists are winning.
Re:And the winner is... (Score:5, Insightful)
Winning? They've won!
We are only about a generation away from anyone remembering a time before paranoia spilled out into the streets. After that, it is never coming back short of revolt
The War on Drugs may have been the prelude to a police state, but there is no denying we are in the embryonic stages of one now. And the irony being the US will be just as locked-down as any caliphate.
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Winning? They've won!
We are only about a generation away from anyone remembering a time before paranoia spilled out into the streets. After that, it is never coming back short of revolt
That isn't their goal. The terrorists haven't won. Are you claiming that democracies automatically lose long wars? Will you be converting to Islam and support Sharia law in place of the Constitution as Bin Laden demanded? Or should I just call you Dhimi?
The War on Drugs may have been the prelude to a police state, but there is no denying we are in the embryonic stages of one now. And the irony being the US will be just as locked-down as any caliphate.
The US is not in the embryonic (or later) stage of becoming a police state. See, I just denied it, and I'm right.
Do you think the US will start executing homosexuals by throwing them off of tall buildings or crushing them under falling walls? Will adu
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They won the day the Patriot Act was passed.
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In much the same way that they "win" every time the Air Force drops a 2,000 pound bomb on their infantry or oil truck motor pools.
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Sounds like the terrorists are winning.
If you think their goal is to institute bag searches at major public events then you totally misunderstand their goals.
Have you converted to be a religious Muslim living under Sharia law as Bin Laden demanded? No? Then they haven't won.
Fear of terrorism = government propoganda (Score:4, Insightful)
There are well over a million incidents of violent crime in the US every year including four 9/11's of people killed each and every year. Yet people elect to freak out about rounding errors... Could his have anything at all to do with 24x7 terrorism propaganda being piped out of the media?
Millions of people are treated at hospitals for falls every year roughly another four 9/11s worth of death by falling each and every year. Nobody spends any time reporting on falls or murders of random "unimportant" people.
The people who WANT YOU to be AFRAID are the Media and the Government because fear increases viewership and makes those governed by "consent" more willing to cede power to government.
Meanwhile CES is busy creating unnecessary bottlenecks where people who have not been checked for WMD will mass in the name of safety for their own protection.
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There are well over a million incidents of violent crime in the US every year including four 9/11's of people killed each and every year. Yet people elect to freak out about rounding errors.
So your argument is that because in a country of 330,000,000 you can tally up lots of crimes no precautions should be or need to be taken to prevent mass murder when gangs of extremists with tens of thousands of members and millions of supporters have announced their intent to do so?
Hmmm ....
Why should I buckle my seatbelt when there are tens of thousands of people killed in automobile crashes every year ....
Why should I keep my potato salad in the fridge when tens of thousands of people get sick from food
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Terrorist pro tip (Score:2)
Not saying extra security is a bad idea per se but if you replace one juicy target with another then it's not really solving the problem. If some crazy detonates their bomb in the queue for screening then they still achieve the same purpose as if they got inside.
Re:Terrorist pro tip (Score:5, Insightful)
That's been known for years. Why no one has ever exploited it I don't know.
I'll tell you why: because despite the billions of dollars we're throwing at "security" each year, and all of the fear propaganda being pumped out of the television 24/7, there just aren't many terrorists trying to attack us. Weak points exist everywhere in our society, there are plenty of effective ways to inflict mass casualties, and yet it's not happening with any regularity. The lack of attacks is not attributable to draconian security measures, as plenty of avenues are currently unsecured; it's because nobody's trying. The fact of the matter is, the threat of terror attacks is incredibly tiny and is not worth the sacrifices we're making.
By the way, one guy did attack a TSA line in Louisiana [usatoday.com] earlier this year. He wasn't brown, though, so nobody paid much attention.
Really Stupid and Impossible (Score:3)
I was at CES for the last several years in a row, I just stopped going last year...
There is no way on earth with the huge numbers of people at CES that you can manage even the most rudimentary screening. Every single person is going to have at least a cellphone so it's not like you can even have a no-bag bypass line that just swims through a metal detector quickly.
They honestly would be smarter to recommend that attendees come armed with concealed weapons. Then an attacker could never be sure if any given crown would counterattack.
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"They honestly would be smarter to recommend that attendees come armed with concealed weapons. Then an attacker could never be sure if any given crown would counterattack."
It's just so convenient that right-wingers flag their bad reasoning with equally bad spelling.
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Well honestly, I don't bother to check my spelling when speaking to idiots. If they can't get past a simple spelling error how can they understand more abstract concepts?
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How do you use a gun to counterattack an explosion?
Volume
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Step 1: See someone has a bomb.
Step 2: Shoot them before bomb goes off.
So simple even a three year old could think of it, perhaps you'll be up to that level next year.
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Then an attacker could never be sure if any given crown would counterattack.
Yep I'm sure a suicide bomber will definitely reconsider attacking when there's a small chance he may get killed.
I have a better idea, how about Americans stop being shit scared of their own shadows and realise they have a higher chance of dying in a car accident on the way to CES than getting bombed or shot at the event itself. And please trigger happy people leave your guns at home. The type of mentality that requires a concealed carry permit to feel safe is not the type that typically makes a sound judge
Make everyone a booth bunny. EVERYONE. (Score:2)
The only clothing allowed is skin tight and revealing. Yes, even you, hairy guy with a gut who used to ogle the booth bunnies. How's that working for ya?
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now there's less reason (Score:2)
Aren't most terrorists well funded? (Score:2)
Aren't most terrorists well funded?
You can set yourself up with an amazing booth, including pamphlets, a fake company that's been around for 6 months, and a whole bunch of backstory, etc., etc., for about $150,000 (actual booth rental is only about $20K-$30K, the rest is just window dressing).
And at that price it includes paying the union guys to haul in your bombs for you from the truck, and more union guys to plug it in for you, in case you don't know how plugs work.
Security theater much?
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None of this security theater matters. All someone has to to is bring a bomb vest to the entry line at CES and wait for it to be super crowded at the detector and then detonate while in the middle of the yet-to-be-screened crowd.
The same thing applies to airports. The most dangerous place in an airport is the queue for the security checkpoint. Thousands of people, perhaps tired, overloaded with hand luggage, packed in queue lines like sardines, unarmed, not paying attention at all to the people around t
I think it rather depends on the point. (Score:2)
None of this security theater matters. All someone has to to is bring a bomb vest to the entry line at CES and wait for it to be super crowded at the detector and then detonate while in the middle of the yet-to-be-screened crowd.
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I actually think it rather depends on the point they are attempting to make.
If their point was simply "you are not safe", then yes, such attacks would make sense, and we'd have more attacks like the Boston Marathon bombings.
If their point was retaliation for things like the drone strike which killed "Jihadi John", then we'd see more like the San Bernardino and Paris attacks.
If their point was "your government has put security in place, yet they can not protect you", then we'd see more attacks like 9/11 and
most dangerous place in an airport is the queue... (Score:1)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Laptops? Report from smartphones and tablets (Score:2)
CES is often the place where companies claim to have on display various products that will obsolete the laptop as we know it and free out minds and bodies from having to sit at a desk and work. And the media, bloggers, reporters and web podcast network people lap it up and spew it back at their listening and reading audiences as if these gadgets (and there is a new iteration every year!) will change the goddamn world.
Well.
Put up or shut up. Show us you really CAN report on a tradeshow for your semi-known
Great! Get rid of the rolling bags! (Score:2)