CIOs Spend a Third of Their Time On Security (enterprisersproject.com) 110
StewBeans writes: Much has been discussed about the potential security risks of an Internet of Things future in which billions of devices and machines are all talking to each other automatically. But the IoT market is exploding at a breakneck pace, leaving all companies scrambling to figure out the security piece of the puzzle now, before it's too late. In fact, some experts believe this issue will be what separates the winners from the losers, as security concerns either stop companies from getting into the IoT market, or delay existing IoT projects and leave the door open to swifter competition. That's likely why, according to CIO Magazine's annual survey, CIOs are spending a third of their time on security. Adam Dennison from CIO said, "If IT leaders want to embrace the sexy, new technologies they are hearing about today—the SMAC stack, third platform, Internet of Things, etc—security is going to be upfront and at the center of the discussion."
One third of their time? (Score:1, Troll)
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Wrong security. It's on dealing with security guards, creating plans for escorting people to the exits, while hiring H1Bs and/or people overseas, as well as physical building security, and personal security for executives, because sometimes the riff-raff get uppity.
Re:Wrong security (Score:3)
Re:Really? (Score:5, Insightful)
It seems CIOs spend 10% of their time actually working, the rest of the time they're shmoozing with all the other entitled execs.
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Shmoozing with other execs, both within their company and outside it, is a very large part of the job description.
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Shmoozing with other execs, both within their company and outside it, is a very large part of the job description.
Yes. From a sane viewpoint this is called cronyism, but in the current business environment this is called "networking".
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Shmoozing with other execs, both within their company and outside it, is a very large part of the job description.
Yes. From a sane viewpoint this is called cronyism, but in the current business environment this is called "networking".
I remember the moment in my 30's when I matured from someone who thought he was above politics to someone who realized no one is. I had been in the corporate world long enough to know that being capable of creating the best technical solution to a problem is not nearly as important as being able to persuade a company to enact those solutions. Not even close to as important.
Since then I have made sure that my career growth is as much on the business side as it is on the technical side of my industry. If I re
Re: Really? (Score:2)
The problem seems to be that too many people make that career decision too early and (here it comes) endeavor to drive the car without knowing what the wheel and pedals do, and what the rules of the road are.
Already solved (Score:5, Insightful)
I think the difference between the winners and losers will be the CIO's that don't feel the urge to jump onto flavour of the month hype and connect everything to the Internet.
The entire concept breaks the first rule of Engineering. Keep it fucking simple you fucking fucktards.
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I'm glad you can spot a typo and feel smug about it whilst completely ignoring the content of the message. Oh well, at least you didn't get your knickers in a knot over "flavour", so perhaps there's hope for you.
Back on topic--I'm already on record as not being particularly anxious to connect my stove to the Internet, have it fall under control of the first trojan or script kiddie that comes along one step (I'm being generous here) ahead of any security updates (now I'm being even more generous), and come h
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My fridge doens't need an internet connection, nor does my light switch.
You're quite correct, it doesn't.
But you will buy and use an internet connected fridge and lightswitch and garage door opener anyway. Wanna know why?
Because eventually you will need a new fridge, lightswitch, and garage door opener, and the only models sold will be IoT models. "I"ll just not connect them", you think. But they will refuse to operate if they can't phone home. We're already seeing the start of this trend today.
Either you will go without a fridge, or you will use a connected IoT fridge with
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Just as very, very few people do that (and indeed if many people wanted to they couldn't because there simply aren't that many in supply) very few people will do so with refrigerators. As you point out, it costs a lot of money to go that route as well, so again, very few people will be able to do it. I don't think this is a bad thing. I also can't easily acquire a TI/99-4A and cassette tap
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You seem to have confused avoiding the urge to jump onto the flavour of the month with being an out of touch dinosaur.
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I'd say to RTFA but I'll save time and just post this quote from it:
See? It's about those old people with all their so called "experience" obstructing you from embracing the new model.
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Wow! 24% of their time WAS spent on "security" and yet we read about breach after breach after breach. I'm sure that adding those additional 6 percentage points will make all the difference.
I guess the missing 1% in your calculations got lost in one of those breaches you keep reading about
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I'm already using the most robust security model for the Internet of Things. I call it Things. My fridge doens't need an internet connection, nor does my light switch. My Smart TV thinks it does, but based on recent information I am in the process of removing that privelege. I think the difference between the winners and losers will be the CIO's that don't feel the urge to jump onto flavour of the month hype and connect everything to the Internet. The entire concept breaks the first rule of Engineering. Keep it fucking simple you fucking fucktards.
They will keep it fucking simple. As a consumer in the near future, you will no longer have the privilege of "removing" said privilege, so you won't have to worry about "options" anymore. You will either connect your IoT device properly and never be offline, or the device will not fucking work.
They will also keep it fucking simple by not worrying about any of that complex security bullshit, because there will be no security.
Our future is rather fucked when it comes to security, but really, it's no differ
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Yes, and I have the most secure home on the planet because I'm homeless!
You also don't need a toilet as you can shit in a bucket. It's simpler. You do shit in a bucket right? Tell me you don't violate your own principle on a daily
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It turns out that you do not need to connect a fridge to the Internet for it to do its job well. Internet connection might make certain activities slightly more convenient ... at the cost of an increase in hidden complexity that you'll pay for down the line, e.g. when your fridge is recruited to a botnet.
A horse is actually far more complicated and difficult to maintain than a car, so that analogy fails. Cramming cars with needless gadgetry is indeed making them dangerously complex and we're going to pay fo
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But it wasn't simpler to "create", at least for us humans. I also totally disagree that a horse is more difficult to maintain; you just have somebody else do the hard part for a fee, unless you are telling me you rebuild your own engines and own horses, I call bullshit on your claim (one can as easily outsource horse maintenance, and car maintenance is far more complicated.
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You still have to feed a horse, even if you don't plan to ride him anywhere today.
And I think that "avoid unnecessary complexity" and "avoid unnecessary dependencies" are good rules for engineers to follow, even if you don't.
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The non-rule I contradicted was ". Keep it fucking simple you fucking fucktards.", which is an entirely different thing.
No it isn't. That was my creative paraphrasing of the well understood principle of Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS). If you haven't heard of this before then you need to hand in your geek card now.
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Horses need to be fed, watered, cleaned-up after, and groomed. They sometimes get sick with a huge variety of different ailments, which need to be cured in lots of different ways --- you can't just swap in a new part. They have personalities and moods. They grow, get old and die. Outsourcing all that is not really practical because most of it happens where they're stabled; if you outsource that then it's comparable to a taxi, not a personally owned car.
Some gadgetry gives much better cost-benefit than other
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For every claim you can make about the cost and effort of using the horse, I can draw a parallel to the car.
The car is cheaper and easier, and does more for less effort which is why people choose cars over horses.
Samsung make a Internet enabled fridge right now, today. How many people do you know that choose this IoT version over the simplified version?
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Nobody could possible know how many had the opportunity and turned it down.
Er, can't you just ask them? Seriously, next time you're out for drinks, at a BBQ, or around the water cooler at work, ask your friends who thinks an Internet Fridge is something they're thinking about buying.
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All gadgetry is needless gadgetry.
I take it you've never been to a hospital...
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Yes, and I have the most secure home on the planet because I'm homeless!
But that isn't secure. A homeless person suffers more illness, diseases, assault and death than people who own their own homes. If you are going to make a point try and make one that actually makes sense.
You also don't need a toilet as you can shit in a bucket. It's simpler. You do shit in a bucket right? Tell me you don't violate your own principle on a daily basis!
Again, functioning plumbing is relatively simple ( I have a 70 year old house with mostly original plumbing that still works. Please show me a computer with the same record), and it a lot simpler than a bucket and water that has to be refilled and dumped each time. It is also much cleaner making me more se
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Re: Agreed: "Less is More = Good Engineering" (Score:1)
If you could provide a rest api for the host file, many would appreciate it. The same many of us don't have the time to download a Windows package (which we don't use) and extract it.
The effort to curate a hosts file is extraordinate. Thank you for your generous time, but it doesn't help us.
spend 1/3 stock price (Score:2)
This time will be DIFFERENT! (Score:5, Insightful)
And we really, really mean it this time! Security all the way!
No. It won't be different. And they do NOT spend 1/3 of their time on security.
Most of them don't even know what security is. Or why you cannot buy it. It's just another item on a checklist for them.
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Those are not necessarily mutually exclusive. They could spend 1/3 of their time going, "duuhh, why is my ass posted on Facebook?"
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If the CIO of an Internet of Things company is spending 1/3 of their time thinking about security, yet is still so incompetent... maybe they would be better off paying 1/3 of a CIO's salary to a random slashdotter for 5 minutes of their time.
Of course, no matter how long they take thinking about security, they're still going to sacrifice security for usability every time, so I don't know what purpose thinking about it has.
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It's tough being a CIO. He looks like he's up there, but the CEO, CFO, COO and all other cool CxOs all look down on the CIO and make fun of him in his back, they don't even invite him to join them at the cool people's table at the office Christmas party. He sits at the loser table, with the head of HR and the head of facilities, and instead of hearing the good stories about coke parties and hookers, he hears about groupons and vacations in Punta Cana.
People, give a break to your CIO. He's a reject and a commodity like everyone else in IT, and sooner or later they'll replace him with someone from that Indian company where he outsourced your job.
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One could reasonably categorize a security professionals job as sacrificing security for usability, but deciding exactly how to best do that and still cover as much of the security landscape as possible.
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It's a survey: answers are what we want to hear (Score:2)
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I stopped trusting surveys after watching a few episodes of Family Feud.
CIOs will be rewarded for getting security wrong (Score:5, Insightful)
Many CIOs will dive head-first into IoT, get a lot of good PR, stock prices will rise and they'll be rewarded. Then their companies will discover the IoT security nightmare, get lots of bad PR, stock prices will sink and the CIOs will blame it on someone else. Result: happy CIOs and IoT vendors and an absolute disaster for everybody else.
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There ya go (Score:2)
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1/3rd? (Score:2)
except those who quit after breaches (Score:3, Informative)
And particularly those who said Windows is unsecurable. I remember the days when UNIX ruled the business landscape, was on the Internet, and generally a medium sized shop could use a large UNIX box and run all services with 99.9???% uptime. Was stunned people believed Microsoft and tried replacing the UNIX boxes with a single or a few Windows NT boxes. Laughed when I heard how NT apps would crash the whole OS and so all the other services/apps so they started putting one service/app on a Windows NT server. ROFLMAO hearing how they then doubled those numbers to try and get close to 99% reliability with these redundant servers. There is a _great_ snake oil salesman out there going by the initials Bill Gates.
Security is not a priority. Never has been. (Score:2)
"...leaving all companies scrambling to figure out the security piece of the puzzle now, before it's too late."
This statement is made as if companies themselves do not control the design and development of their own damn products. The simple fact is they do, and they'll either choose to do the right thing and prioritize security, or they'll choose to do the greedy thing and rush to market.
Of course, we all already know what they will choose. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion.
"...security is going to be upfront and at the center of the discussion."
Might as well stop throwing this kind of bullshit around until you look back through consumer-throwaway-product history and try
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Companies don't controll other companies development, and therein lies the problem.
You speak as if security and time to market are mutually exclusive polar opposites, but they aren't. You furthermore speak in terms of a single
CIO time on security not related to IOT (Score:2)
Sure, CIOs (should) spend a lot of time on security. But it has almost nothing to do with the "Internet of Things." The refrigerators at the office may be a security risk, but it has more to do with food security, than network security!
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do you work at Apple?
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At least they stop paying
Which Is To Say (Score:2)
Re:Which Is To Say (Score:4, Insightful)
Don't knock it, many software developers haven't made it to where they should have been in 1998. We're still knee deep in 32bit single threaded applications. Fortunately most applications no longer need admin rights to run so at least they've made it to 1992.
A ol' fogie's view (Score:2)
As much as it's proven orgs are overall lax on security, security concerns do complicate IT greatly. It used to be a lot easier to "hook things up": different servers and boxes all talking to each other doing a different part of the job.
Now it requires diddling with black boxes because nothing exposes helpful info about what it is in the name of security.
Perhaps if "they" designed systems right, things would be easier, but humans are imperfect and build imperfect things. An appeal to idealism falls flat.
The
Correction Re:A ol' fogie's view (Score:1)
Correction: "An ol'..."
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Don't worry, I'm sure the usage of "an" will soon be on the way out just like our dear, departed "are".
solution looking for a problem (Score:1)
nobody gives a fuck about the over-hyped IoT except for marketing vermin and other sub-human cunts who want to spy on people in their homes.
Pretty obvious that is not nearly enough. (Score:1)
At least considering all the security breeches over the last couple of decades. Trust breeds trust.
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Security breeches? So the folks at Levi's are getting in on the IOT bandwagon as well?
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Bottom line in today's world, you just can't trust people who don't take security seriously. 99% of their time should be spent on keeping both themselves and their clients secure.
Access Denied is Success (Score:2)
No, they do not (Score:2)
If the CIOs at places like Target and Home Depot REALLY cared about Secu
A totally pointless article .. (Score:2)
There is no security (Score:3)
Seriously, it's not even an afterthought. I have worked on a publicly funded research project covering smart home and living crap. While some of it may be interesting from a tinkering with stuff point of view, most of it is creepy surveillance type of shit, like smart metering. When I raised the question of security people stared blankly at me for a second or two and suggested that it wasn't a problem at all and if ever will be fixed later, maybe.
My point is, CIOs do not make relevant security decisions when it comes to product design. No one does. It's all about marketability and cost efficiency, security is neither because it is complex and costs a lot of money. And who care? Honestly, who cares about security? It's not the vendors and it's definitely not the consumers who constantly carry their rarely-if-ever-security-updated-listening-in-and-tracking-devices and provide the world with current information about the vacancy of their homes. So again, who cares? Eventually the insurance companies might care, when some cracker remotely burned down a kitchen or flooded a bathroom or two or ten thousand.
Security vs Productivity (Score:2)
Re:Not true - some spend no time at all (Score:5, Insightful)
Where Im at they solved the problem by
1) Outsourcing security to a 3rd party vendor.
2) Giving everyone in security full admin rights on all the servers and network equipment.
When he was asked Why? He responded that by doing so, if anything happens, it is the 3rd party vendor who is to blame and not him.
So we have security through "It's not may fault"
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I can't imagine a company where that would fly. The next question anyone is going to ask is: Whose decision was it to outsource to a 3rd party vendor, and who is responsible for choosing the incompetent baffoons who buggered things so badly?"
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Where I work the CIO spends no time at all on IT Security.
Makes sense. That's why there is the CISO. .. Or is there?
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Where I work the CIO spends no time at all on IT Security.
Makes sense. That's why there is the CISO. .. Or is there?
I first read that as "CISCO". And it made perfect sense.