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Tech Worker Groups Boycott IBM, Infosys, Manpower 234

itwbennett writes: "Three U.S. tech worker groups have launched a labor boycott of IBM, Infosys and Manpower, saying the companies have engaged in a pattern that discourages U.S. workers from applying for U.S. IT jobs by tailoring employment ads toward overseas workers. For its part, Infosys disputed the charges, saying that 'it is incorrect to allude that we exclude or discourage U.S. workers. Today, we are recruiting for over 440 active openings across 20 states in the U.S.' Representatives from IBM and Manpower didn't respond to requests for comment on the boycott."
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Tech Worker Groups Boycott IBM, Infosys, Manpower

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  • "Bright Future Jobs, the Programmers Guild and WashTech."

    Who, who, and who?

    As of August 1999, the Programmers Guild had 400 members. [wikipedia.org] Mighty important organization there, if you can't be bothered to offer membership numbers from this century. Which, to be fair, looks to be the last time their web page look was updated. [programmersguild.org]

    As far as I can tell, "Bright Future Jobs" is one person Donna Conroy [brightfuturejobs.com].

    WashTech is a union. [washtech.org] No thanks.

    I suspect that IBM, Infosys and Manpower won't even notice their "boycott."

  • A slight misdirect (Score:5, Informative)

    by rijrunner ( 263757 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @05:13PM (#47159819)

    I did my time at IBM and learned this the hard way.

    IBM does not favor hiring foreign applicants.

    What they did at IBM Boulder was simple. At the beginning of LEAN in IBM e-Business, they laid off 1/3 of the staff. They moved from dedicated support for a pool of resources. And, as a result of the class action lawsuit, they cut everyone's pay 15%. After a lot of people left voluntarily, they fell well below the level of staff they needed to keep things running.

    So, they decided to hire. Not regular employees, of course. Contractors. Only makes sense, yes? So, they opened up a number of junior admin positions at $12/hr. And a number of senior positions at $15/hr. When no one applied, they bumped it up slightly. Eventually, they were able to hire people in, but at a much lower rate than what the people who had left made. The nice thing about this from their perspective is that they also eliminated contracting companies that had things like paid vacation. (There might be a contracting company that still pays vacation, but I don't know what it is. There is one that still offers a small training budget).

    Nationality of employee was completely irrelevant.

    The color of the cog in the machine is irrelevant.

    Cheap. Crappy. Brutal. That is the IBM Way now.

  • by ebusinessmedia1 ( 561777 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @05:16PM (#47159865)

    There is ample evidence that many American corporations have been actively discriminating against American Workers for well over a decade. This is especially true when it comes to STEM work skills. India, China, and Russia have been the main sources of off-shoring (and now, in-shoring). India is the absolute worst, with India's goovernment actively pushing for more H1-Bs because they would rather America hire them than India build proper educational and business infrastructure systems. Indian government is one of the most corrupt on earth (easily as corrupt as some of the worst African states).

    Want proof? Unemployment is a problem in America, and so are our sticky problems with immigration. Undercover of helping those immigrants who have so long labored in our agricultural sector, the American IT sector has seen fit to use the sentiment to help agricultural workers to create a Landslide of advantage for itself. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... [huffingtonpost.com]

    The H-1B fiasco has cost Americans **$10TRILLION** dollars, since 1975. For anyone who wants to know the truth, read on.

    One of the most respected technology pundits in Silicon Valley has this to say about the H1-B worker problem http://www.cringely.com/2012/1... [cringely.com]

    Here's an attorney and his consultants teaching corporations how to manipulate foreign-worker immigration law to replace qualified American workers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... [youtube.com]

    H1-B abuse if accompanied by other worker-visa abuse L-1 Visa (H1-B's are only the tip of the iceberg). There are more than 20 categories of foreign worker visas. http://economyincrisis.org/con... [economyincrisis.org]

    Professor Norman Matloff's extremely well documented studies on this problem. http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/... [ucdavis.edu]

    Federal offshoring of healthcare.gov website http://www.economicpopulist.or... [economicpopulist.org]

    How H1-B visa abuse is hurting American tech workers http://www.motherjones.com/pol... [motherjones.com]

    There is no stem worker crisis in America http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-wo... [ieee.org]

    Marc Zuckerberg and wealthy tech scions continue to perpetuate this trend http://programmersguild.org/do... [programmersguild.org]

    Yahoo http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs... [yahoo.com]

    Also, little known is the tactic of creating many different kinds of sub-visa categories to "fool the system". There are almost TWENTY different kinds of work visas. The whole thing is a sham and a lie, designed to drag down wages and keep from having to re-train Americans. Never thought I would see this day!

    Some of the information presented in the aforementioned links will shock most Americans, because American corporate leaders don't want us to know the truth, and they are paying off policy makers with contributions to keep the truth from us. Bill Gates, John Chambers, Mark Zuckerberg, Eric Schmidt, and many, many others - including the principals of the most prominent immigration law firms, who profit from this outrage, are lying through their teeth. There is NO shortage of STEM workers in the US!!

  • by Bigbutt ( 65939 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @05:17PM (#47159877) Homepage Journal

    Yep. Been in Boulder IBM and had to bail after 2 years. The Cog thing was pretty scary. Managers would just come into a room and 'duck, duck, goose! have your desk cleared out by Wednesday". When they 'Goose'd our Interface to the Customer (2 days to be gone), I figured IBM had blown a gear or something and started looking for a way out. Fortunately found it just up the road and have been here for almost 7 years.


  • by TechyImmigrant ( 175943 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @05:28PM (#47159967) Homepage Journal

    They sell a bill of goods to banks that have plenty of money and no brains.

  • by digsbo ( 1292334 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @05:59PM (#47160215)
    Company A buys company B, needs to import or marry their two systems. Neither company has staff on hand to do the integration project, because everyone at B got laid off, and A is busy with business as usual. Consultants come in and delivery a badly built, badly delivered "solution". It might even meet some subset of the requirements in a minimal way. I wouldn't say they're giving great value, but it's not nothing.
  • by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @07:37PM (#47160809) Homepage

    Nope. It comes from people that have actual scruples and do not like seeing people being used and abused. I'm highly paid as I have a rare and large skillset, Plus I can step into management easily to avoid it.

    But I see that IT really needs a Trade union. First to stop the bullshit of the MCSE morons from polluting the IT pool. second to stop businesses from whoring out people and treating them like shit.

    Structure it exactly like the electricians unions and to get in you need to takes tests, spend time on the job under an expert, etc...

    I'm guessing you have ZERO clue as to how the electricians union works.

  • by cream wobbly ( 1102689 ) on Tuesday June 03, 2014 @09:26PM (#47161357)

    The word you're looking for is offshore, not outsource. I'm a US Citizen working in the US for a US outsourcing company whose customers are US companies. Now that's not to say that my employer doesn't also engage in offshoring, such as my colleagues who do work for European companies. Companies have been offshoring since before you were born.

    Unless you really do have a thing against companies farming out work to contractors without employing them. In which case I take that back. Companies have been outsourcing as long as there's been currency.

  • by donscarletti ( 569232 ) on Wednesday June 04, 2014 @02:45AM (#47162411)

    The japanese officer showed how "human shelves" works. You get into what looks to be a 1m high bookshelf, and sit cross legged. The POWs absolutely thought this to be insane, and demanded better transportation. The Japanese asked why POWs needed luxury transportation, and couldn't use the same transport as the japanese army.

    You mean the same Imperial Japanese Army that worked prisoners to death building railways and in mines and decapitated or mutilated captured soldiers for trivial offsenses?

    The same ones that killed 300,000 civilians and committed 30,000 reported rapes in a few weeks in Nanjing?

    The ones that locked vast quantities of women into military brothels to be raped roughly every half hour?

    The one that conducted medical experiments on civilians in captured territories?

    Of course they are an authoritative source about what treatment is humane according to East Asian norms, which is why the Chinese and Koreans are so much more understanding with the Japanese over the whole war and hardly mention it at all on domestic media or in international diplomacy.

Logic is a pretty flower that smells bad.