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Security Firm Predicts "Murder By Internet-Connected Devices" 135

Curseyoukhan writes "Infosec vendor IID (Internet Identity) probably hopes that by the time 2014 rolls around no one will remember the prediction it just made. That is the year it says we will see the first murder via internet connected device. The ability to do this has been around for quite some time but the company won't say why it hasn't happened yet. Probably because that would have screwed up their fear marketing. CIO blogger challenges them to a $10K bet over their claim."
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Security Firm Predicts "Murder By Internet-Connected Devices"

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  • By 2014 this bullshit of connecting your toaster to the cloud will be a fad, and not many people will actually care to sign in to see how many farts they tweeted

    • was for sure going to be the year of Desktop Linux. Instead it's going to be the year of internet murders? Don't tell me we have to wait until Enlightenment 0.18 is fully baked?
  • by tangent3 ( 449222 ) on Thursday January 03, 2013 @03:12AM (#42459187)

    ...but it looks like [SA]HatfulOfHollow has finally completed his killer device.... http://www.bash.org/?4281 [bash.org]

  • Don't worry, my run-away killer AI drone will stop it in time.

  • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Thursday January 03, 2013 @03:16AM (#42459215) Journal

    Goatse certainly came close

  • I could be wrong, but didn't someone already write a TV show episode where something like this did happen? I think it was NCIS.
    • by Dins ( 2538550 )
    • Oh my god, confusing Homeland with a shitty generic show like NCIS.
      You don't deserve to own a TV.

      • by Anonymous Coward
        Hahahahaha you got your shitty shows mixed up! Here's a hint: they are both absolute shit and inaccurate as can be.
  • by APL bigot ( 606126 ) on Thursday January 03, 2013 @03:42AM (#42459341)
    Murder via internet (and a lot more), committed by someone who is dead. "Daemon" by Daniel Suarez. Interesting read. There is also a sequel, "Freedom".
    • by Morpf ( 2683099 )

      In Germany the official sequel to "Daemon" is called "Dark Net" not "Freedom", if you are interested in a read. ;) I don't now why they changed the name, though.

  • by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Thursday January 03, 2013 @03:43AM (#42459347)

    Most remotely-triggered bombs made by extremists of various kinds are triggered by cellphones - so true in fact that some countries shut down their cell networks preventively [www.geo.tv]. Cellphones use some kind of radio network and proprietary protocol for the last mile, but essentially, beyond that, telephony is entirely IP-based these days. You can even call a cellphone from a PC now with programs like Skype.

    So I think essentially all recent bombing attacks can be called "murder by internet-connected devices".

    • Most remotely-triggered bombs made by extremists of various kinds are triggered by cellphones

      A remotely-triggered bomb maker extremist had his head blown off . . . by a cellphone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahya_Ayyash [wikipedia.org]

      With a wee bit of dramatic irony, as well . . .

      No Internets were harmed in the process.

      • by TheCarp ( 96830 )

        Nice story.... I love how the Isrealis don't bother with arrest and trial, they just stoop right to assasination.... its nice having a conflict where this is no moral authority on any side. Makes it easy to just sit back and enjoy it as they kill eachother.

        But its true, no internet connection on phones in 1995.

  • Depending on your definition of "via internet device" all someone has to do is beat someone to death with a cell phone, or a laptop, or even run them down with a reasonably modern car. There's a good chance this has already happened.

    If the definition is that the act of murder is committed remotely via the internet (a more reasonable definition), then I'm sure some bright spark will arm a civilian drone and do their deed that way. Already been done by the military, obviously, but I don't think that falls und

    • Someone just needs to slap a patent on this Murder "with a internet connected device" and wait for the royalties to come in.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    Alot of pacemakers have wireless with none or simple security... (why i have no fucking clue why we did that...)

    100% undetectable too. Heart problems in a person with a pacemaker is not suspicious at all.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    What about telepresence medicine? I can see remote-operated machinery adding a layer of legal misdirection to doctor-assisted suicide attempts.

  • I'm sure they can't wait to put them selves in a position to very publically benefit financially from the first such murder...

  • Virtual nobody posts sensationalistic headline to grow mindshare, news at 11.

  • by Big Hairy Ian ( 1155547 ) on Thursday January 03, 2013 @05:15AM (#42459753)
    Given that more & more surgery is being done remotely over the internet surely Windows Automatic Update has already achieved this!
  • by Anonymous Coward

    There are already numerous reports of virus infections of hospital systems.

    The only remaining question is whether or not an improper drug dispensing activity occurred at the same time time, with the same system.

  • by TractorBarry ( 788340 ) on Thursday January 03, 2013 @05:48AM (#42459871) Homepage

    Firm with vested interest in selling you "stuff" is *very* concerned that "stuff" might happen. Buy now whilst stocks last !

  • I predict that someone will come up with the bright idea of hooking up some medical device to Facebook. It will seem like a "good idea at the time" to someone for some reason only god knows. One of the guy's friends will submit a score challenge for a Facebook game, and trip some godforsaken undocumented bug in the API, causing the device to malfunction. All of a sudden, it will become a lot more important to have a high score in <insert game here>.

  • by mseeger ( 40923 ) on Thursday January 03, 2013 @06:11AM (#42459949)

    IID predicts for 2013 that criminals will leverage networked healthcare devices to carry out murders. My counter-theory is, that the first murder probably has already occurred; we and the police just didn't notice it. So 2013 may be the year the first murder via Internet device is proven.

    During a BKA (German version of the FBI) conference, i made a remark that got me nationwide media attention in 2000: "In the Internet you'll find anything but murder." I wish i could say this with the same conviction today as i did back then (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/BKA-hat-Muehe-mit-der-Internet-Kriminalitaet-16354.html [heise.de]).

    I think those happy days Daniel Suarez [thedaemon.com] envisioned have already arrived.

  • by euyis ( 1521257 ) <euyis@@@infinity-game...com> on Thursday January 03, 2013 @06:13AM (#42459961)
    An "Infosec" vendor that no one knows and cares makes big prediction about how future hackers would kill you with compromised Internet devices. You need protection! We offer it! Remember our name so we stay relevant!

    I would probably consider this news (that is in no way interesting and informative) if this prediction is made by Symantec, McAfee or Kaspersky. Put some obscure "IID" here and it just smells so slash-PR.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    In particular "Killer Net" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127383/

    Everything took longer though as they were all on dial up.

  • Knives wielding USB gadgets?

    http://achewood.com/index.php?date=01122007 [achewood.com]

    Besides cartoon characters who on earth would be dense enough to.... ...
    Oh GOD!...Thinkgeek will destroy us all!

  • by Zedrick ( 764028 ) on Thursday January 03, 2013 @07:06AM (#42460205)
    I came up with this idea about 3 years ago, when working with network cameras. Should have patented something right away.
  • Too late.

    In 2012 Pakistan shut down their cell phone networks for a period of time [theworld.org]. The reason they did this was to prevent bombings, which often use a cell phone as their trigger.

    Almost all cell phones now are connected to the internet, even the very cheap ones.

    Thus, the year it says we will see the first murder via an internet connected device likely has already happened.

    What they mean to say is the first murder via an internet connected device that uses the internet itself to commit the mu
  • In the USA, millions and millions of people have guns that could easily be used to murder anybody. In Western countries in general, almost everybody has kitchen knifes that could easily be used to murder someone. I have a spade and a pitchfork that could be used for murder. Why would I worry that about "Murder by Internet-Connected Devices"?
    • by SeaFox ( 739806 )

      In the USA, millions and millions of people have guns that could easily be used to murder anybody. In Western countries in general, almost everybody has kitchen knifes that could easily be used to murder someone. I have a spade and a pitchfork that could be used for murder. Why would I worry that about "Murder by Internet-Connected Devices"?

      You're naming a bunch of ways of physically attacking someone. That requires physical access.

      With an Internet-enabled method this isn't required. All the locks on the door and guards in the world wont stop the perpetrator in this scenario unless you stop your Facebook addiction. Hey, you could murder them from outside the legal jurisdiction. Even from a country with internet access and no extradition agreements with the place where the murder took place. Assuming the authorities are able to figure out who t

  • Yes and? It hasn't happened because...well... there isn't a high demand for murder. Not many people want to engage in it (really, I mean, everyone says it when blowing off steam but, very few would actually do it, even if handed means and opportunity).

    Planned murders like you see in movies are, by far, the exception. Not just the exception but the exceptional case of an already rare occurance. In a major city, 100-200 murders a year seems on the mid range to high side from a casual perusal of the numbers...

  • by PopeRatzo ( 965947 ) on Thursday January 03, 2013 @09:26AM (#42460941) Journal

    What are we talking about here? When my wife beats me to death with her iPad because I've been too busy playing Far Cry 3 for the past 2 weeks to take out the garbage or bathe?

  • Thankfully the group of people who commit premeditated murder and people with the geeky skills to kill over the Internet rarely overlap.
    It's the same with terrorism, people who commit those acts aren't exactly the brightest bulbs in the room, just imagine what a bunch of brilliant, well funded engineers could do.
    Think invisible flying death bots.

    O, we already got those, never mind then. :)

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Now I know why you needed access through my firewall...

  • In his fictional book "Daemon" [amazon.com] , Daniel Suarez showed lots of ways that Internet connected devices can whack people. Many of them are not that far fetched.
  • I'm not sure that the implied distinction between a human with an internet connection and a violent impulse, and a lethal device controlled by said human via an internet connection, is a valid one. Violent criminals can and do use the net to stalk their victims, acquire weapons, and research successful strategies to commit their crimes. Humans are still in the loop whether they are pulling the trigger while standing next to the victim, or while they are sitting in their mom's basement. IMHO, changing the
  • I guess I'm not the only one that finally finished watching the recent season of Homeland. Internet controlled pacemaker, anyone?

  • Remote controlled Predator drones have been used to kill thousands of people since the mid 1990's, does that qualify?
  • Photoshop someone burning a Koran.
    Upload to YouTube.

    The End.

  • I'm sure someone has been pummelled to death with an old 90s desktop while the ethernet cable was still connected. :D
  • http://inhomelandsecurity.com/teen_hacker_in_poland_plays_tr/ [inhomelandsecurity.com]
    http://paranoidnews.org/2011/11/hackers-take-control-of-a-water-pump-in-illinois-and-disrupt-public-water-system/ [paranoidnews.org]

    And there's one more I can't seem to google, where a British train was derailed, and one or more death may have occured, because some 16 yr old "hacker" had gotten into the rail company's switching system (WHICH WAS ON THE 'NET!!!!!), and changed switch setting at the wrong time. This would have been in the last 8 years or so.....

  • ....fuckwit! (Most moderators today here are corporate fascist state worshipping script kiddies)
  • My guess is that it has something to do with medical devices in hospitals. Reprogram a daVinci robot to go all Ginsu?

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