IT Crowd On-line 246
prostoalex writes "IT Crowd, a comedy television show by UK's Channel 4, introduced on Slashdot earlier, has released the first episode, available on the official show site in Windows Media format." Pretty standard fare- there are nice touches like EFF stickers and an RTFM shirt scattered about. Some funny stuff, but the laugh track makes it really unwatchable for me.
meh ... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:meh ... (Score:2)
Mine is bash.
Laughter Track (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Laughter Track (Score:4, Informative)
You can usually tell, anyway -- canned laughter tends to be rather clinical (it starts and stops very abruptly) whereas live laughter will grow or subside as the individual audience members get the joke at different times. That said, a lot of people accuse even live audiences of being distracting or sounding artificial, and that's because the audiences are encouraged by the programme-makers to make as much noise as possible, even if a joke isn't very funny. That doesn't mean they are canned, though.
Unfortunately, it's usually difficult to find out which programmes are and which aren't as those programme-makers that do rely on canned laughter are very reluctant to make the knowledge public. And in all programmes the editors will have tweaked the laughter track a bit afterwards to smooth over glitches, cuts and re-takes.
Sorry ... (Score:3)
Sorry, but that's exactly what it means (that the laughter is canned, even if it's a different kind of can.
Re:Laughter Track (Score:3, Informative)
It is, to an an extent, a directorial decision. I went to a sitcom shooting in Hollywood ("The Geena Davies Show" -- high prestige, huh?) where the warm-up guy, under direction from the production team, coached us in how to laugh. He'd say "Now remember, you're here to add
In the interview with the Cute Chick... (Score:3, Informative)
There's another question the actress's past performance in a stage show called "Deep Throat". (Channel 4, prepare for Slashdotting!)
Future episodes that I look forward to:
#11 "The CD/DVD Tray Is Not A Coffee Holder"
#13 "The CEO Nails Roy In The Head With His Chair"
#14 "Roy Utterly Bungles His Google Telephone Interview"
#17 "Meet Your New Colleagues In Bangalore"
#21 "Mos
Re:Laughter Track (Score:3, Insightful)
Getting back on topic, tbe purpose of a classical sitcom is not to portray real life accur
Re:Laughter Track (Score:2)
You confounded Limeys, always preferring moderate excess in everything.
Re:Laughter Track (Score:3, Interesting)
True, just watching them installing printer drivers, silently removing spyware and patching the corporate firewall would have been much more funny to the 0.005% of those in the know. (snort)
Besides I don't know where you've been working but I've always seen characters like those lurking in the corners, including one that actually had 2 tshirts (one for summer, one for winter) who apart from that was a true wizard, one of the very few I've encountered. He did fail with the girls, and
Mac attack (Score:2)
Looks like you have to be using windows , so perhaps mac users are out of luck . though I could be wrong and just having problems on my end.
Re:Mac attack (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Mac attack (Score:3)
There was the semi-official Flip4Mac [microsoft.com] being waffled on about a few weeks ago, I used the prehistoric Mac port of Windows Media Player instead. I don't think I've ever seen it work for a full 25 minutes or so before.
Anyway, trying to avoid sounding like a true nerd and switching off the white noise: the comedy itself. It was pretty funny, and wa
Re:Mac attack (Score:2)
Was rather hilarious , I think that was Chris Morris as the Boss , the guy who made Brass eye.
Rather enjoyable
Re:Mac attack (Score:3, Informative)
aha... you've failed the test. Please surrender your Geek pass to security on the way out... :) a true geek would have tried an alternate approach such as cutting & pasting and replacing mms:// with http:/// [http]
Re:Mac attack (Score:2)
Or rip out the motherboard and ram , start doing diagnostics on them , then realise you had the power supply switched to 0
Re:Mac attack (Score:2)
(presuming your mplayer was compiled for support for mms streams)
dont wanna stream? (Score:5, Informative)
Unplayable here (was: Re:dont wanna stream?) (Score:2)
Rich.
Re:Unplayable here (was: Re:dont wanna stream?) (Score:2, Informative)
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Rich.
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Rich.
Re:Unplayable here (was: Re:dont wanna stream?) (Score:2)
There are no free open video codecs.
You mean that Dirac [sourceforge.net] and Ogg Theora [theora.org] aren't both free and open? Where is your evidence for this? Even MPEG-2 is both free and unpatentable in the EU (temporarily at least).Rich.
Re:Unplayable here (was: Re:dont wanna stream?) (Score:3, Informative)
So, it's possible, but hard. It's not worth the effort for me, so I just statically compile mplayer on a 32-bit box and move it over to my desktop.
Re:Unplayable here (was: Re:dont wanna stream?) (Score:3, Informative)
Crashed (Score:2, Interesting)
Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
subtitle font: load_sub_face failed.
[wmv3 @ 0xafee20]VOP DQuant info: 0.000 1/ 1 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0 96%
[wmv3 @ 0xafee20]concealing 300 DC, 300 AC, 300 MV errors
[wmv3 @ 0xafee20]VOP DQuant info: 0.003 2/ 2 ??% ??% ??,?% 1 0 96%
[wmv3 @ 0xafee20]Transform used: 4x8
[wmv3 @ 0xafee20]concealing 300 DC, 300 AC, 300 M
Mac - no stream (Score:3, Informative)
You can add wget to a Mac, but curl is standard.
Then you probably need to get VLC to watch it, but who's counting ;)
Re:Mac - no stream (Score:2)
Re:dont wanna stream? (Score:2)
broken link (Score:2, Informative)
Online before broadcast (Score:5, Interesting)
The really interesting thing about this is that the show won't be broadcast on Channel 4 until next Friday. I believe this is the first time a UK broadcaster has made a programmes available online before broadcast.
Re:Online before broadcast (Score:4, Informative)
No, It's been done before more than once by the BBC.
Mighty Boosh for one, Tittybangbang another. I'm sure there are more.
Re:Online before broadcast (Score:2, Informative)
Re: Online before broadcast (Score:3, Informative)
(In my area, I can't even get Channel 5, let alone anything on FreeView... Not that I'm bitter, you understand.)
Anyway. Having seen it, I agree with the comments about the intrusive laughter track. But I it's no worse than we've been used to for decades; it's just that many of the more recent comedies have been brave enough to do without one, so its presence is more obvious now.
I also agree with comments about the old-
Re: Online before broadcast (Score:3, Interesting)
OTOH, I hated Friends. Partly coz most of my college friends loved it, and I never understood why. It just seemed so smug, with all this fake coziness and forced charm. It seemed soulless. It also seemed as if having 300 writers led to a barrage o
Re:Online before broadcast (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Online before broadcast (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Online before broadcast (Score:2)
You forget the purposely "leaked" premiere of Dr. Who.
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Thank god it's just audio visual (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Thank god it's just audio visual (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Thank god it's just audio visual (Score:4, Funny)
That would be "Burger King" you're wondering about.
Re:Thank god it's just audio visual (Score:2)
Yes. The food.
Re:Thank god it's just audio visual (Score:2)
Cheap Pizza!!! (At least compared to the UK)
Italian computer nerds must be elephantine then. For the price of a single pizza in the UK, I can get five in Italy - and they're even edible unlike the shite that Pizza Hut, Dominos and their ilk serve up.
Re:Thank god it's just audio visual (Score:2)
Tracing the linage of memes is tricky business. My guess would be one part Dudley 'Booger' Dawson played by Curtis Armstrong in Revenge of the Nerds [imdb.com], and one part derived from the archetypal nerd, R.M. Stallman [stallman.org]. IIRC RMS use to partake in folk dancing, but injured an ankle, had to quit dancing and acquired a paunch, where RMS is concerned the hairy part is apparent.
Best guess on my part.
Its too much! (Score:2, Interesting)
This show would be better if it were like The Office. Have the IT guys in there aswell as nerdy users, but this intense focus on it is too much. They are gonna burn out within the first few shows.
http://religiousfreaks.com/ [religiousfreaks.com]Re:Its too much! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Its too much! (Score:5, Interesting)
Intense focus in a sit-com isn't bad, lets face it this is normal, low number of core characters and sets with occasional colour add ons.
Fraser - 3 sets (appartement, Studio, coffee shop) - 5 main characters
Cheers - 1 set (bar) depending on series between 4 and 6 characters
Friends - 2 sets (appartement & coffee shop) - 6 characters
Office - 1 set (Office) 4 main characters
Father Ted - 1 set (the house) 4 main characters
So Sitcom history seems to say that you almost NEED an intense small group of sets and characters.
Re:Its too much! (Score:3, Interesting)
So Sitcom history seems to say that you almost NEED an intense small group of sets and characters.
If it doesn't have a small group of sets and characters... Then it's not a situational comedy, is it? It's either a sketch show, or standup comedy, or satire, or a late-night show, or a physical comedy show. Sitcoms have a few, recognizable, main characters, perhaps some recurring characters, and a small number of sets, because that's what makes it a sitcom. There are plenty of sitcoms that were totally unfunny
Re:Its too much! (Score:3, Interesting)
One thing that may be unfamiliar to American readers, is that the usual model of British TV sit-coms is that a series lasts for just six or eight episodes, very tightly scripted (normally by just one or two writers) and concentrated: the best of them will fit as many laughs into three hours of TV, as a typical American sitcom will get in a 26 episode run.
Short series mean there's less danger of ideas getting stale; on t
Re:Its too much! (Score:2)
4 main characters (Including "The Cat" and the computer), a few additional ppl showing, maybe 4 sets
And a nice funny story
Re:Its too much! (Score:2)
Other things to remember, they had the entire universe to roam, in the last seasons reintroduced the entire crew and before that had frequent encounters with other people, virtual reality and time travel.
Re:Its too much! (Score:2)
Look back to the old stuff, like "Better than Life", much better.
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Re:Its too much! (Score:3, Interesting)
Richard Ayoade (the black guy, Moss) is an apalling actor. I know he's meant to look awkward and have a nerdy voice, but he comes across as some kind of robot. He was in a very weird show on Channel 4 a while back called Garth Marenghi's Dark Place, and he was presumably in that because all the acting was *meant* to be terribl
Re:Its too much! (Score:2)
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Re:Its too much! (Score:2)
Tim: Look, how long is this going to take ?
IT Guy: As long as it takes
don't be a troll (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:don't be a troll (Score:2, Interesting)
next ep (Score:2, Informative)
Re:next ep (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:next ep (Score:2)
Practically the same thing. The audience laughs when the Laughter sign lights up.
It's just not funny (Score:2, Insightful)
Well done (Score:3, Insightful)
I work in IT doing support for an Internet provider and I am willing to bet that they are going highlight most issues that I deal with on a daily basis. Granted, they are never that extreme but who cares. This may even show the average user that they need to relax before calling in. I think that capturing what the IT world does on film will be very hard but it looks like this show is on its way to doing just that.
pretty decent (Score:3, Interesting)
Are all the episodes going to be online, or just the premiere?
Tough crowd, tough crowd... (Score:3, Insightful)
What's wrong with a laughter track? (Score:3, Insightful)
Today, it is fashionable to make comedy shows without an audience. However, this is not because there is anything wrong with a laughter track. Here, for example, is a list of successful English shows with laughter tracks.
Re:What's wrong with a laughter track? (Score:2)
Re:What's wrong with a laughter track? (Score:3, Interesting)
Yet when it was later reshown (by Sky I think), I was amazed to find that Mash came with a laughter track. (and it was canned laughter, not studio laughter). It utterly changed the whole tone of the show, and I basically couldn't watch it.
I'd be curious to know if this laughter track was used as a matter of c
Re: What's wrong with a laughter track? (Score:2)
As I said elsewhere, I suspect that we're more aware of it now, because it's no longer ubiquitous.
A laughter track is good for one thing: telling y
Re: What's wrong with a laughter track? (Score:2)
The first six series were mostly recorded in front of a live studio audience; there were many film inserts (especially in series 5 and 6), but AIUI they played those to the studio audience via monitors, so what you hear is still the genuine reaction of a live audience.
Series 7, was recorded in a movie manner, without an audience. But AIUI the laughter track was made in a fairly similar way: they got a real audience, played the completed episodes
My 2 second review... (Score:2)
It's not horrid, but there's no way I can see the stereotypes, and ancient jokes being enough to support it. 3/10.
Hot Ear (Score:2)
*sprays water on his ear*
Roy: "What's that?"
Moss: "Oh, just water. Sometimes I get a hot ear and this helps cool it down."
I am affected by the same condition! I keep a spray bottle filled with water on my desk when my ears get too hot.
Re:Hot Ear (Score:2)
Well, since we are talking about being really nerdy already, and since this is slashdot, I might as well go into the nerdy stuff. Your ears getting hot makes a strange kind of sense, because as I understand it the main function of the outer part of your ear (the earlobes, etc.) has nothing to do with hearing. Instead, it's there to radiate heat. It's basically a heatsink for your head (an
Re:Hot Ear (Score:2)
That'll be the brain parasites [corante.com] eating your brain because your blood sugar level's too low to sustain them.
Re:Hot Ear (Score:2)
A rise in blood pressure due to hyperinsulinism, perhaps?
So jealous... (Score:3, Funny)
Subtle References (Score:2)
An interview with the writer (Score:3, Interesting)
http://telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/
If you can't get Mplayer working.. (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm watching it right now with Mplayer (Slackware 10.1)
Mplayer? (Score:2)
What's wrong with hexdump -C?
Re:Mplayer? (Score:2)
Re:Mplayer? (Score:2)
But you can only use Windows codecs on 32-bit x86. (Score:2)
Ehrm, no. (Score:2)
Use mplayer. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Use mplayer. (Score:2)
One mplayer GUI that will work with mms protocol is KMplayer.
XINE tells me I need am mms plugin, but I can't find a binary deb for it.
Re:Great (Score:4, Funny)
[Insert Laugh Track Here]
Re:Great (Score:2)
Re:Great (Score:2)
Like so many innovations in advertisting and broadcasting :-) that one comes from our friends over in the US. Like the technique of shrinking the end credits down to a thumbnail while they show/blather on about something else over the theme music.
I bet you can't wait until they do they other trick I noticed in the US - launching into commercials before the end credits. Now that's annoying.
Re:Great (Score:2)
Re:snort track (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Retro Computing (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Unrealistic (Score:3, Funny)
Re:If you want to have technobabble, get it right! (Score:5, Interesting)