Does Having Fun Make IT More Enjoyable? 249
Lam1969 writes "ComputerWorld is running an article stating that some senior managers in IT think the answer to boosting morale is to have more fun on the job. The IT managers interviewed for the article claim making people laugh contributes to successful businesses and reduces turnover. How do you have fun? According to the article, Dale Sanders, head of IT at Northwestern Medical Faculty Foundation, 'has posted photos on the intranet of staffers caught in awkward moments installing cables or servers, for instance. Sanders encourages others to add funny (and tasteful) captions.' John Wade, CIO at Saint Luke's Health System Inc., sometimes dresses in drag and encourages other unusual behavior. Other potential tactics for laughs include encouraging self-expression, encouraging 'serious play', and asking potential hires their favorite funny movies or comedians."
Ummmmm Yes? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:5, Funny)
So in this case, does IT stand for "Information Tautology"?
Cheers,
IT
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:2)
ttyl
Farrell
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:2)
Heh. You know what they say about the pot calling the ketle black.
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:3, Interesting)
I hear ya...and agree with you...fun at IT jobs DO help things.
My first IT job years ago was a great atmosphere. Our BU mgr. basically gave us programmers carte blanche to do what we wanted...as long as the work was done on time and done well. We spent lunch hours that ran over quite a bit over an hour each day playing Descent, Duke Nuke'em...and other games over the network...with speakers at full blast and all the yelling and all that went with it. No problems.
We'd tak
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:3, Interesting)
We would play small simple games at lunch (Think Flash Games), though we usally didnt take anymore than the alloted hour
After hours was a different thing all together, we would play Half-life, Counter-strike, TFC, DOD and many other games... We would usually play for about 1.5 to 2 hours each day...
and Managment Loved it... Why? Simple...anyone working overtime who was having problems with computers could still call IT... and they didnt
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:2)
However, while earning lots of money offsets the will to quit a bad job, it doesn't make it any easier to put in the 40 hours. We spend a lot of our lives at work.
Sometimes it's not worth it. If you're at a shitty 80k/yr job, and you have the chance to get a much more enjoyable job that's closer to home for 70k/yr, a lot of people might take it.
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:2, Insightful)
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Yes, yes, yes. I would far rather a boss who actually respects his team, takes our opinions seriously, fires the incompetant people and lets us do our blue-sky R&D projects now and again to one who makes jokes or tries to take the team out to lunch every week but lacks the former attributes.
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:4, Insightful)
Also, just because it's succeeding with some of the staff that doesn't mean it's making things more enjoyable for everyone. Some people might find the photo gags described in the article genuinely embarrassing... is that good for morale? The boss dressing in drag is the sort of thing that's going to be perceived differently by the straight men in the group than by any women or gay men (depending on how the guy behaves, the former might be creeped out by it, or the latter insulted by it). If the boss' idea of "fun" is Ace Ventura, and mine is Harold and Maude, introducing "fun" into the workplace - even if it goes over great with the Jim Carrey fans - is not going to make my job more enjoyable.
One of the reasons for "professionalism" in a work environment is that it helps to establish a common, neutral social atmosphere. For example, several years ago when a coworker and I started working a lot on weekends - the usual expectations of office conduct set aside - I got to see what this guy was really like (stained Confederate flag t-shirt, fag jokes), which made it more difficult for me to work with him. (And I'll bet that his discovery that I was a fan of the Smiths and the Cure didn't make him any more comfortable working with me.) I'm not saying that a work environment where everyone checks their personalities at the door is a good thing, but straying from traditional standards and encouraging everyone to let their hair down can have unintended negative consequences as well.
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:2, Interesting)
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Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:2)
And we ALL know that IT is infinitely fun.
So the answer is no.
Re:Ummmmm Yes? (Score:2)
Sounds like someone's either in the first stages of his first IT job, or is being sarcastic but forgot the bite at the end.
If it's the former, I really don't have the heart to tell him, especially on Christmas.
Curse you, compassion!
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Strange questions (Score:2, Interesting)
-Da3vid-
Re:Strange questions (Score:2)
I've been relatively fortunate in terms of the jobs I've had, but in my experience fun was basically the default result of skilled people working in a relaxed environment doing things that they liked.
I would think that a lack of fun is not an indication that there needs to be management-approved funny websites on the intranet, but that something is wrong with the department or company. Maybe the workload is too high
Improving Morale (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Improving Morale (Score:2)
Absolutely right. The picture/caption posting will last right up until someone posts a manager inserting its head up its own ass.
Re:Improving Morale (Score:2)
That's because that's considered leaking secrets on how they're managing the war on terror. Don't you know you're helping the terrorists by discussing it? Please take a number and line up for the next bus to gitmo.
Re:Improving Morale (Score:4, Interesting)
I found this to be worst when I was working at a call center; I swear, upper and middle management treated people there like children more than respected employees. Immediate supervisors were often easy to deal with, but when the problem starts from the top, it's nearly impossible to stop.
Re:Improving Morale (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't think any manager should expect to look at a book or read slashdot for ideas about how to make their shop fun. If they can't figure it o
Re:Improving Morale (Score:2)
Re:Improving Morale (Score:2)
Every time upper management starts saying things like "our employees are our most valuable asset" update your resume, there is a layoff in the very near future. Upper management has realized that the salaries paid to their employees are worth more than any other part of the company or the products they deliver to customers. By
Monty Python? (Score:3, Insightful)
So how long before "Monty Python" is added to the Comp.Sci. curriculum at the local university? I'm all for having a fun and enjoyable workplace, but I'm not sure I want my professional qualifications trumped by whether or not the interviewer agrees with my sense of humour.
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Re:Monty Python? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Monty Python? (Score:2)
>>Funny Walks" remains an elective,
>>I'm fine with it.
>I'm not, and you shouldn't be either.
I gather you're a proponent of removing core competency credit from the Introduction to Funny Walks course, on the grounds that it will devalue your degree?
Surely you wouldn't suggest removing the course entirely. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the dean who has to explain to the Ministry why it's been removed.
Perhaps a compromise is in order?
Tell you what,
Re:Monty Python? (Score:2)
Oops. Maybe I should have taken that course after all.
Re:Monty Python? (Score:2)
"What's your favorite funny movie?"
"Hm, that's a toughie - I think I'm torn between Schindler's List and Silence of the Lambs."
"... Uh... I don't really think those are comedies..."
"Oh, sure they are - that part where that guy is shooting peop
Re:Monty Python? (Score:2)
tantra (Score:5, Funny)
They say it fosters a more special bond between you and your employer.
How about.... (Score:5, Interesting)
How about accepting a little less profit as a price to pay for supporting good workers in your community (and companies need help defending and encouraging this practice)
How about getting rid of employees, especially managers, that are abusive and/or want to build little fiefdoms
Lastly, how about you take the bitter employees who like to complain about every little perceived slight and fire their asses ASAP for being disruptive. I know my girlfriend, who works as a softare developer and hates working for women, would back this wholeheartedly, but perhaps that's because it'd be the cause of most of her female peers getting fired on the spot.
Look, work is typically what we wouldn't do if given the choice not to do it. That's why it's called work, it's supposed to be laborious and when it's not, you've got something great going for you. The best way to keep good people is to protect them, challenge them and give them excellent opportunities to get rewarded for working hard for their employer. You can let them play Halo for an hour a day on company time, but if they still work for a typical good ol' boy network and/or hyper-PC office or a PHB with sociopathic tendencies, you'll never have the kind of work environment that can match the aforementioned environment that makes work be work, but makes people feel like they get something good and safe from their blood, sweat and tears.
Re:How about.... (Score:2, Funny)
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I can't tell if you being funny or not.
So your girlfriend, who hates working with women, and wants all her female peers to be fired, is annoyed about other people being bitter and disruptive?
Had a boss who tried that (Score:2)
Better morale techniques are giving people the opportunity to get more out of their day job than a dumpy apartment or a better quality of life than they had 5 years ago. A popular technique in consumer electronics is to let people design things they'll actually want to use.
Trust in Employees (Score:3, Insightful)
Where I work, we have a 7 foot projector with Xbox and Xbox360 hooked up, and frequently a few employees will go and play games against each other for an hour or two.
Does work still get done? Of course. But nobody likes to work all the time, and video games are a good alternative to say surfing aimlessly around the web, because this way you get to leave the desk and interact with co-workers.
Why so many companies seem to think you *have* to work every minute you're there baffles me, it's very unproductive. As for the state of my company, we're #1 in our field, and doubling growth every year. It's a mid-size company, and maybe that's why this works, it's small enough that the employees feel (and are rewarded) regarding to company success.
Re:Trust in Employees (Score:2, Interesting)
Work is fun if... (Score:5, Interesting)
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If you have to put on a phony act to be porfessional, maybe a professional position isn't for you. You can be professional while disdagreeing.
I agree with everything else in your post.
Re:Work is fun if... (Score:2)
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- You can be as relaxed as you want... as long as you still get the work done on time. Which is never, because it was always due yesterday.
* Encourage people to speak their minds and to disagree, but professionally.
- You are free to disagree. But no matter how professional you put it, you are still wrong.
* Weed out employees who can't hack it. Cut dow
Re:Work is fun if... (Score:2)
Sorry, wearing ThinkGeek T-shirts does not count as a culture...
For me, the part about encouraging a relaxed work-environment is important, and definitely does not need to be at odds with professionalism. An employee sho
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ick. (Score:4, Insightful)
According to the article, Dale Sanders, head of IT at Northwestern Medical Faculty Foundation, 'has posted photos on the intranet of staffers caught in awkward moments installing cables or servers, for instance. Sanders encourages others to add funny (and tasteful) captions.'
Know the easiest way to suck the fun out of a situation? Have it encouraged by management. Fun just happens. Make it a policy, and it becomes work again.
Re:ick. (Score:2, Insightful)
I have had such experiences in the past, and am very fortunate to have a job now that I would consider to be "fun."
Duh! but that's not all that counts.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Fun doesn't pay the bills. Think of it as a nice fringe benefit, but not something more than that. I
depends (Score:2)
Well, I know from my experience (Score:2, Interesting)
As I moved up in the IT world, and moved through different companies and positions the trusty Nerf Vortex guns came with me. There's always someone who appreciates a good cube shootout as much as I do, wherever I go.
Re:Well, I know from my experience (Score:2)
A few related analogies... (Score:3, Insightful)
* Does having paint make being a painter more enjoyable?
* Does having a computer make developing software more enjoyable?
I could go on, but I think we've all paid this post far too much heed as it is.
-volve
pretty sad (Score:2, Funny)
Miserable Workers Are Better (Score:3, Insightful)
Summary being that sad workers make less errors, presumably because they focus harder to block out the relentless hell of their lives.
Re:Miserable Workers Are Better (Score:2, Insightful)
In the first study, sad people committed significantly fewer errors than did happy people (approximately half the number of errors) but there was no difference in the
Re:Miserable Workers Are Better (Score:2)
The article doesn't give much detail on the experimental methods, but I certainly get the impression that it focuses on "I'm having a shiatty day" sadness rather than "I hate my life" sadness.
I imagine that the long-term- vs. short-term-sadness distinctinction is very significant, and probably workers who are trying to block out the "relentless hell" of a bad day are better w
ny mta (Score:2)
Does Having Fun Make [insert word] More Enjoyable? (Score:2, Funny)
Worst, Headline, Ever.
-> Fritz
Does Having Fun Make IT More Enjoyable? (Score:2, Insightful)
Does Having Fun Make IT More Enjoyable? (Score:2, Interesting)
Is having fun enjoyable? Read what you just wrote.
You can answer that for yourself, right?
Fun or funny? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re: Does Having Fun Make IT More Enjoyable? (Score:2)
Alternatively, you couldn't answer what was really being asked? Yeesh. It's not such a self-answering question. Some people have jobs that they cannot stand going to. Heck, that reminds me of most of my time in high school. I remember wishing I'd get a stomach flu because I'd rather have dealt with being sick than being at school. So what do you do when it gets this bad? Organized sport? Allow people to play games without fear of being yelled at? Desginate
Keep it real. (Score:5, Insightful)
At a place that did it poorly, the employer tried to "lighten up" the place with all kinds of stupid shtick and encouraging the employees to get into the act. Naturally, employees felt pressured to participate and to pretend to think it was fun, when it wasn't. (Cue Bill Lumbergh saying, "Friday is Hawaiian shirt day, so, you know, if you want to you can go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt, and jeans.") This didn't exactly improve morale.
If you want to reduce stress, give your employees the freedom to be themselves. This starts with you being yourself. Don't try to be funny if you have no sense of humor, but if you do have one, use it. Don't try to be silly if you're naturally stoic by demeanor. Don't try to be a cheerleader if that's not who you are. If you're anything but genuine, and you have smart employees, they'll sense it, and that sends the message that this is what's expected, and your employees will feel stressed by it, though they may be unable to articulate the source of the stress (even to themselves). So just let your natural personality shine through.
Unless, of course, you're naturally a complete jerk. In that case, the best thing to do is to shoot yourself in the head. Your employees will love you for it.
Re:Keep it real. (Score:2)
I remember this ep of The Twilight Zone where this kid literally has "looks that kill." He can make anybody die who displeases him, just by looking at him. What makes him unhappy? Other people who don't look happy, or raise their voice to him (oh, they'd be so dead).
The whole show, everybody around him puts on a false act of being happy and joyous, all the time sweating that t
Re:Keep it real. (Score:2)
So how did it end? Don't leave us hanging! :-)
OA5 (Score:3, Interesting)
Frankly, the only companies that can and should be trying to improve the morale of their employees (I mean the grunts, not the management) with techniques other than money or free time, are the ones with proper mechanisms are in place where smart people get to decision-making positions. Come to think of it, there probably isn't much to be done on the morale front there anyway.
Anybody remember Mr. Show? (Score:2)
If I remember correctly, the sketch was based on a Microsoft executive that made his employees listen to Jimi Hendrix...whether they liked it or not.
Loving your job is a blessing from above... (Score:2, Interesting)
Improved morale and good chemistry... (Score:2)
One thing we do is having daily Quake fragfests around lunch time. Even the director drops by, shakes his head, chuckles and
Re:Improved morale and good chemistry... (Score:2)
Actually, that's not corny - it's fully accurrate, and provides much more benefit than most so-called morale boosting activiti
How about: Be Cynical.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Organization > "Having Fun" at work (Score:2)
ObReference (Score:2)
Hats off to ScuttleMonkey... (Score:2)
First rule of observing other companies (Score:2)
What the head of the department thinks their staff think bears little relation to what they actually think.
What?! (Score:2)
What makes your IT job more enjoyable is being treated like a second-class employee. Having to reheat the coffee when you're called in by someone who can't find the "any" key. Training your own replacement before he takes your job home to Bangalore.
Fun? What an astonishing waste of time.
Fun With IMs (Score:2)
One of the gifts at our office White Elephant party yesterday was about 30 small koosh balls. That ought to keep things interesting.
Honestly... (Score:2)
I derive far more enjoyment from my work when my manager actually takes me seriously when I tell him that module he wants is going to take 2
Uh....yeah!? (Score:2)
Motivation is simple (Score:5, Insightful)
If you are succeeding, and people have a meaningful part in that sucess, and are treated like they have a meaningful part in that success, then you don't have motivation problems.
Of course, that's like Steve Martin's routine about how you can make a million dollars and never pay taxes. Part one is get a milion dollars, part two is don't pay your taxes. Most of us don't know how to get to step one.
It's like whistling when you walk past the graveyard, the cargo cult management formulas for improving morale and productivity. I remember once spending a week long retreat with the CEO, in a cabin on a remote island with no electricity, nothing but the senior managers, a Phd management consultant and piles of flip charts. The topic: what is the business we are in. I remember thinking, if the CEO doesn't friggen know, we're in deep shit.
Incompetence, lack of direction and above dread of that which must not be spoken are like millstones around our necks. Doubt gnaws at us: fear that the terrible secret of how poorly we have managed our commitments will be made public. Anger and resentment eats at us like a canker, patched over with thinning layer of hopeless bravado. We struggle daily through a morass of pointless activity: the bulk of the work we do is cleaning up our messes, shifting blame, or delaying the inevitable.
Free your workers from these burdens and you won't need any tricks. Tear of the covers on the festering mess and let the light and air in. Don't try to manage the morale problem: you can't without patronizing, and if your workers aren't smart enough to know they're being patronized, they're probably not smart enough to work in IT.
If you try so hard to make things come out the way they are supposed to, and it doesn't work, perhaps dealing with the way things are wouldn't be so bad. If you are so much less than the sum of your parts, then perhaps you are misusing your parts. Look around with open eyes: things may be bad, but they aren't so bad that they can't be improved. Mere mediocrity would be outstanding in the cesspool of dishonesty and pretense that is business. Our model of success has become exploitation, where there are only two classes of people: winners and suckers. Many have done well by this model. But not you. If you are worrying about motivation you don't have the stomach for that game. Real operators don't need gimmicks, they keep the suckers eating out of their hands until they're done with them. You obviously need a different model.
In short: Promise little, deliver much. Don't manage the people around you, relate to them. If managing appearances doesn't work, then live by eternal virtues like honesty, fidelity, honor and bravery. Don't think like a manager, think like a primitive barbarian hero: company after all comes from the same linguistic roots as companion: it means people who share each other's bread.
Re:Motivation is simple (Score:5, Insightful)
I worry that the flaw in what you are looking for is the lack of managers with the guts and talent to carry it out. It's so much easier to find an a-hole who will bully people than to find a competent manager who can successfully lead. Sadly, the more incompetent the upper management, the more likely it is that the bullying technique will be rewarded since, to appearances, lots of people working long hours and weekends seems to mean that more is being done than by well motivated people only working reasonable hours.
Fewer and fewer upper managers (C?O level) seem to understand that the same people who achieve amazing things in a forty hour week can be turned into unproductive drones working sixty hours by their favored "hard charging" overseer. Motivated people will "do what it takes" to get the job done. The same people, beaten up into working "as long as it takes," will accomplish very little. Sad.
Re:Motivation is simple (Score:2)
Ummm...bloody hell. Exactly right. The original discussion about fun in the workplace is a perfect example of how management often misses the point entirely. If work is truly not a fun place to be, it's likely because the staff have had all of the interest and wit squeezed out of them, not because they need a bloody CIO mincing around in drag, while they work 60-hour weeks to desperately hold the company together.
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The key to morale (Score:2)
They will then take care of you.
The leaders I've been most loyal to are the ones that first make sure I have everything I need to do my job, and then get out of my way so I can do it. My morale is best under such conditions - I will move mountains for such a leader if I have to.
That said, reasonable office hijinks that don't directly relate to the job can be a lot of fun and take the drudgery out of things. Wouldn't do much at my job, most of us are out in the field most of the da
Word of Caution... (Score:3, Interesting)
I did this.
I got in SOO much shit. My manager (the person who's office I did), kept bringing it up after 3 quarterly reviews and mentioned again for that last 2 Yearly reviews.
Then the fucker had the nerve to say that "We want to support an atmosphere of fun and play."
Screw 'fun', show me the money! (Score:2)
Please God No. (Score:3, Insightful)
Example: one day at a past helpdesk position, I and a cubicle-conspiritor became so sick of the state of things that we deigned that the next day would be Sock Puppet Day. The two of us brought in many socks, fabric scraps, glitter, glue, everything we could possibly think of that might find a home on a sock. We then suggested to everyone around us that they might enjoy making a sock puppet.
The results were stupendous. Most everyone had a good time, and we were pretty adroit at hiding the process from management until we had all finished our socks. Then we hung them all over the place and went on with business as usual. No calls were dropped, tickets were still solved quickly and effectively. However, we were all in a much better mood.
One of the middle management frumps noticed what had happened and asked me if it was a team building exercise. I looked at her like she had grown a fourth nostril. Maybe in some far-removed way it was, but the sponteneity and silliness of it -- not to mention hiding it from our superiours -- was what made it fun and effective and morale-boosting. I suspect there was a sprinkling of having gotten away with something that really brought the flavor out in the moment.
The next year it was decreed from the top that we would again have an official sock puppet day. Everything was provided for us. There was a designated time and place where supplies could be found.
The results were predictably pallid, and few people particiated.
Don't make fun part of the job, you management types. If anything, make it easier for people to make their own fun on the job, but keep your mitts off of the actual process. You'll have much happier employees, and chances are they'll even take it up upon themselves to get work done anyway.
Re:Well DUH... (Score:2)
Why do I only see remarks like this on Slashdot?
That's not the only reason. (Score:5, Insightful)
They also tend to only hire people who are nice, willing to help others, and are always respectful to others in the company. According to mythos, sometimes managers will pretend to be prospective applicants, and walk in and sit with the real ones, to watch them. There have been applicants at the final level who have lost the job because they were rude to a secretary.
And really, except for the mechanics on the field, nobody there is in a job where training and experience could absolutely trump being nice, thoughtful and being able to learn. And even the mechanics, you want to have caring and thinking about the people in the planes. That probably also contributed to why they lasted so long without a plane crash.
It makes sense, doesn't it? It's a lot easier to enjoy your work environment if you don't hire jerks.
Re:That's not the only reason. (Score:2)
So then, where do we find managers? (Sorry, a few too many PHBs in my past.)
Oh, and just to actually respond to the post... I sure hope the pilots and flight crew also have some modicum of qualification for what they're doing. You'd be surprised how hard it is to be a really good stew (e.g., evacuation training, dealing with drunks or medical emergencies, etc.) let alone fly even a small plane in nea
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