Sober Attack on 87th Anniversary of the Nazi Party 302
Jack writes "ITO is reporting that Sober is scheduled to attack on January 2006 - the data coincides with the 87th anniversary of the Nazi party: "The next planned widespread of 2005's most prolific e-mail worm, Sober, is scheduled to start on January 5, 2006 based on commands hard-coded within the worm. The attack date coincides with the 87th anniversary of the Nazi party.""
Godwined in the summary? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Godwined in the summary? (Score:3, Funny)
There. Killed it.
No kidding (Score:5, Insightful)
They could be celebrating the 2000 Al Qaeda Summit! Or the first PC by Hewlett Packard! Maybe the birth of Marilyn Manson! Lots of possibilities... or maybe, just maybe... it has no meaning.
Re:No kidding (Score:5, Insightful)
Or maybe, just maybe, for a worm used to send nazi spam [atsnn.com] it has.
On the IntarWeb, ... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:No kidding (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:No kidding (Score:2)
Unless you take into consideration the fact that most people don't want to go outside when it's so freaking cold. Certainly, everything I did that was mentioned in history books was made during either spring or summer.
P.S. Deep apologies to people in Australia for leaving the out of the picture.
What it will do (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Godwined in the summary? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Godwined in the summary? (Score:2)
Re:Godwined in the summary? (Score:3, Informative)
Well now what? (Score:2, Redundant)
Could have at least thrown us a bone
Re:Well now what? (Score:2, Funny)
gee there must be a nazi conspiracy, just look at all the things that happened on ol' adolf's birthday....
87 years eh... gee 8+7=15! 1x5=5!! 5=fifth letter=H(itler) tuooodoootooodooo!! {twilight zone tune}
WTF!!! Is slashdot gonna open up a section for conspiracy theorists, witchhunts and numerology??
do the math... (Score:2)
perhaps next year when it's the 88th anniversary eh?
Re:do the math... (Score:2)
Among neo-Nazis, "88" is a codeword for "Heil Hitler" (H is the 8th letter in the alphabet).
Re:do the math... (Score:3, Informative)
Among radio amateurs, "88" is a code word for "love and kisses". In communications, context is everything.
Re:Well now what? (Score:2)
Could have at least thrown us a bone :)
Well, we could start talking about the fate of Hitler's remains.
summaries (Score:3, Insightful)
If you only have two sentences, leave it at that! You don't need to put them in the summary twice in the hopes nobody will notice.
Re:summaries (Score:3, Funny)
that's silly (Score:3, Funny)
Re:that's silly (Score:3, Funny)
*may not be understood by non-Brits
Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh they wouldn't mind it so much, they'll just make sure that they are the ones doing it to other people. I can't imagine the Nazis would have liked certain of their theories applied to themselves.
When your culture calls for tall blond Nordic types and your Leader is a short, brown haired guy who looks
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:2)
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:2)
Since none of the other helpful respondants have actually given you the answer to this: The word has several meanings in spanish. It's based on "pared" (wall). It means a particularly thick or sturdy wall, perhaps one designed that way as a defensive structure, and can refer more specifically to such a wall left standing in the middle of ruins.
The context of the original post, however, clearly points to one specific meaning: It's the wall against which sta
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:2)
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:2)
However, the article does say the virus sends "politically motivated" email. Anybody have more detail?
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Re:I concur (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I concur (Score:2)
Yes. I am. It's freaking ugly. Do any research on heraldry and you'll see some beautiful flags with very nice designs. The US flag is sadly not one of them.
And just because someone copies you, doesn't mean you have a good idea. If that's your proof then you're on shakey ground.
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:3, Interesting)
Only because prior to 1938 he did not have the means. Maybe you didn't mean to infer otherwise, but the guy was a bad apple well before then.
-h-
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:2)
Holly Cow, what a load of crap - certainly not Informative.
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:2)
kids today... (Score:3, Informative)
Its available online.
Just read it, and see why the GP is a load of crap.
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes, clearly in 1938 the Nuremberg Laws, the forced sterilization of Gypsies and the handicapped, the re-a
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:3, Interesting)
That was normal then. Here in the US we had the Jim Crow laws that were revoked in 1964. In South Africa, there was apartheid that lasted until very recently. Also, the US government experimented on syphilis on black people [infoplease.com] for 40 years. If you know anything about syphilis, you can appreciate the injustice here.
The Germans a
Re:Why are these people so attracted to the Nazis? (Score:2)
And its a rather chilling read, as you can see how perceptive the writers were. They already knew something bad is coming, and the intention of the nomination is likely to be a wakeup call.
Anniversary of Nazi Party... So what? (Score:2, Insightful)
The linked article doesn't imply Sober has anything to do with Nazism. Was the Sober writer a Neo-Nazi? If so, it would've made much more sense to include this in the article or submitter's comments so the "Nazi anniversary" comment would mean something.
You know what else happens on 5 January 2006? This guy [imdb.com] turns 75. Maybe the Sober writer also hates The Godfather! Who knows?
Re:Anniversary of Nazi Party... So what? (Score:2, Informative)
So either the Sober author is indeed a neonazi or the neonazis rented the Sober-infected botnets.
Re:Anniversary of Nazi Party... So what? (Score:5, Informative)
If you go here [infoworld.com] you will find that the Sober worm directs people to neo-nazi websites, and sends emails with subjects like "Dresden Bombing Is To Be Regretted Enormously" and "60 Years of Freedom: Who's Celebrating?"
Given just what
Re:Anniversary of Nazi Party... So what? (Score:2)
1896 German physicist Wilhelm Roentgen's discovers x-rays
1945 Pepe LePew debuts in Warner Bros cartoon "Odor-able Kitty"
1956 Elvis Presley records "Heartbreak Hotel"
1961 US breaks diplomatic relations with Cuba
1973 Netherlands recognizes German Democratic Republic
1982 Arkansas judge rules against obligatory teaching of creation
Amongst many other events one might like to celebrate/commemorate.
Re:Anniversary of Nazi Party... So what? (Score:2)
Simple answer: The article is wrong. This wasn't the first Sober variant. Previous versions have been used to send out "Nazi spam" (actually, it was mainly xenophobia), so it's reasonable to assume that this isn't a coincidence.
I don't understand why Verisign (the same company that offers bulletproof hosting for phishing sites, by the way) publicly documents how far their reverse engineering efforts have ad
I've never been partial to birthdays (Score:4, Insightful)
Great... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Great... (Score:4, Funny)
I still have an old 486 with the Michelangelo virus embedded in the partition table. It still has this message written in wite-out on the casing:
"WARNING: DO NOT USE ON MARCH 6"
I might have to boot that sucker up this weekend and see what's on it.
Re:Great... (Score:3, Interesting)
Your post rang bells in a dark recess of my mind labelled 'Elder Virus Lore', and I had to check with Google.
January 5th is Joshi's birthday [symantec.com].
Never mind the Nazi stuff, I think the Sober guys are just paying tribute to a viral classic :)
Coincides has the same root as Coincidence (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Coincides has the same root as Coincidence (Score:3, Informative)
-Joe
Joe Stewart, GCIH
Senior Security Researcher
LURHQ http://www.lurhq.com [lurhq.com]
Re:Coincides has the same root as Coincidence (Score:2)
I don't have a Windows desktop, so I tend to ignore these news items. Is there a long history with this virus writer/group?
Re:Coincides has the same root as Coincidence (Score:4, Informative)
-Joe
Joe Stewart, GCIH
Senior Security Researcher
LURHQ http://www.lurhq.com/ [lurhq.com]
Je, personnellement... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Je, personnellement... (Score:2)
I, für eins, begrüßen unsere Nazi überlords ?
Re:Je, personnellement... (Score:2)
Ask Babelfish [altavista.com]. Or, since you seem so fluent in the language:
Re:Je, personnellement... (Score:2)
Mais, je pense que une capitulation propre devrait être fait en allemand. (Je me demande également combien de ceux qui se sont amusés par ton commentaire devraient le traduire avec Babelfish.)
Re:Je, personnellement... (Score:2)
I have one of those books too... (Score:2)
Dangit (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Dangit (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Dangit (Score:3, Funny)
And the announcement coincides with... (Score:2, Funny)
OMFG... conspiracy! There must be a connection somewhere.
Just let me think of it, and I'll get back to you...
Summary Unclear (Score:2)
Re:Summary Unclear (Score:2)
In summary, January 5th, 2006 is the 87th anniversary of the Nazi party.
This story is null and void. (Score:3, Interesting)
You better be Sober (Score:3, Informative)
Re:You better be Sober (Score:3, Funny)
Re:You better be Sober (Score:2)
What's interesting about that? Isn't that the entire point of being patched? To not be exploited...
isn't it?!
No mention of the Operating System??? (Score:2, Insightful)
Again... please specify the OS!
Parent is not Offtopic (Score:2)
Any virus article that doesn't state which OS or application is acting as host is remiss. Windows != "Computers"
Re:No mention of the Operating System??? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not joking.
First, there is one virus announcement for Linux that I recall this past year.
Second, Microsoft should never escape having their product explicitly associated with the malware it hosts.
Third, the rest of the IT industry does not deserve the wide-ranging implication that this is a "computer virus". This is a Windows virus.
Widespread is an adjective! (Score:3, Informative)
See: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/widespread [m-w.com]
Main Entry: widespread
Pronunciation: 'wId-'spred
Function: adjective
1 : widely diffused or prevalent - ex: "widespread public interest"
2 : widely extended or spread out - ex: "low, widespread hood and fenders"br>
The Grammar Nazis never miss a chance at spoiling an event.
87th Anniversary Connection (Score:5, Informative)
They have this all wrong, (Score:2, Funny)
Sober was written by Burgundish insurgents...
Re:They have this all wrong, (Score:2)
because people are lazy (Score:4, Interesting)
1463 - Poet François Villon is banned from Paris.
1477 - Battle of Nancy, Charles the Bold killed, Burgundy becomes part of France.
1500 - Duke Ludovico Sforza conquers Milan.
1527 - Martyrdom of Felix Manz, a Swiss Anabaptist.
1554 - Great fire in Eindhoven, Netherlands.
1675 - Battle of Colmar, French army beats Brandenburg.
1757 - Louis XV of France survives the assassination attempt by Robert-François Damiens, the last person to be executed in France with the traditional and gruesome form of death penalty used for regicides.
1759 - George Washington marries Martha Dandridge Custis.
1781 - American Revolutionary War: Richmond, Virginia is burned by British naval forces led by Benedict Arnold.
1846 - The United States House of Representatives votes to stop sharing the Oregon Territory with the United Kingdom.
1854 - The San Francisco steamer sinks, 300 dead.
1895 - Dreyfus Affair: French officer Alfred Dreyfus is stripped of his rank and sentenced to life imprisonment on Devil's Island.
1896 - An Austrian newspaper reports that Wilhelm Roentgen discovered a type of radiation later known as X-rays.
1900 - Irish leader John Edward Redmond calls for a revolt against British rule.
1909 - Colombia recognizes the independence of Panama.
1912 - Prague Party Conference
1914 - Ford Motor Company announces an eight-hour workday and a minimum wage of $5 for a day's labor.
1918 - Free Committee for a German Workers' Peace founded, which would become the Nazi party.
1925 - Nellie Tayloe Ross becomes the first female governor in the United States.
1933 - Construction of the Golden Gate Bridge begins in San Francisco Bay.
1940 - FM radio is demonstrated to the FCC for the first time.
1944 - The Daily Mail becomes the first transoceanic newspaper.
1945 - The Soviet Union recognizes the new pro-Soviet government of Poland.
1948 - Warner Brothers shows the first color newsreel (Tournament of Roses Parade and the Rose Bowl).
1956 - Elvis Presley records "Heartbreak Hotel."
1957 - Major league baseballer Jackie Robinson retires.
1961 - Television: Mr. Ed debuts.
1964 - Pope Paul VI meets the Greek patriarch Athenagoras I in Jerusalem, the first meeting of Catholic and Orthodox Christianity leaders since 1439.
1968 - Alexander Dub?ek comes to power, "Prague Spring" begins in Czechoslovakia.
1970 - Soap opera: All My Children premieres.
1972 - President of the United States Richard Nixon orders the development of a space shuttle program.
1973 - Netherlands recognizes East Germany.
1974 - An earthquake in Lima, Peru kills six, and damages 100s of houses.
1975 - The Tasman Bridge in Tasmania, Australia, is struck by the bulk ore carrier Lake Illawarra, killing twelve people.
1976 - Cambodia is renamed Democratic Campuchea.
1980 - Hewlett-Packard announces release of its first personal computer.
1984 - Richard Stallman starts developing GNU.
1987 - President of the United States Ronald Reagan undergoes prostate surgery causing worries about his health.
1993 - The oil tanker MV Braer runs aground on the coast of the Shetland Islands spilling 84,700 tonnes of oil.
1993 - Washington state executes Westley Allan Dodd by hanging (the first legal hanging in America since 1965).
1996 - Hamas operative Yahya Ayyash is killed by an Israeli-planted booby-trapped cell phone.
1997 - Withdrawal of Russian forces from Chechnya.
2000 - The 1st day of the 2000 Al Qaeda Summit.
2002 - Charles Bishop, a 15-year-old student pilot, crashes a light aircraft into a Tampa, Florida building, evoking fear of a copycat 9/11 terrorist attack.
2006 - Expected activation of Sober worm
87th Anniversary of the Nazi Party? (Score:2)
Re:87th Anniversary of the Nazi Party? (Score:2)
Seriously, do you take yourself serious? The nazi ideology is death. It has been death since 1945. Those people who're still calling themselves nazies are just morons. They could be part of a modern day group of mass murderers (plenty of these still availabe in many parts of the world) instead they waste their time with ideology-necrophilia.
The all - important number 87 (Score:2)
The Nazis?
The Commies
The fascists
The KKK
Sober making the rounds here for a while (Score:3, Interesting)
Some stats from the past week:
11/28 - 57 hits (2.7% of received emails)
11/29 - 81 hits (3.6%)
11/30 - 64 hits (2.9%)
12/01 - 128 hits (2.2%)
12/02 - 72 hits (3.6%)
It seemed to take a break over Thanksgiving, there were zero hits between 11/23 and 11/28, which is the longest span since I first started seeing a lot of them.
January 5th (Score:2)
Now that's a sobering thought.
5 January Conspiracy (Score:3, Funny)
5 january Nazi party? hmm. It is much worse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono [wikipedia.org]
Salvatore Phillip "Sonny" Bono (February 16, 1935 - January 5, 1998) was an American record producer, singer, actor and politician whose career spanned over three decades.
"ITL is reporting that Sober is scheduled to attack on January 2006 - the data coincides with the death of Sonny Bono: "The next planned widespread of 2005's most prolific e-mail worm, Sober, is scheduled to start on January 5, 2006 based on commands hard-coded within the worm. The attack date coincides with the death of Sonny Bono who died of injuries from hitting a tree while skiing at the Heavenly Ski Resort near South Lake Tahoe.""
But is even worse:
Jan 5, 2002 - Charles Bishop, a 15-year-old student pilot, crashes a light aircraft into a Tampa, Florida building, evoking fear of a copycat 9/11 terrorist attack.
Jan 5, 2000 - The 1st day of the 2000 Al Qaeda Summit.
Jan 5, 1895 - Dreyfus Affair: French officer Alfred Dreyfus is stripped of his rank and sentenced to life imprisonment on Devil's Island.
Jan 5, 1984 - Richard Stallman starts developing GNU.
So, "ITNO is reporting that Sober is scheduled to attack on January 2006 - the data coincides with the start of developing GNU and the Dreyfus Affair: "The next planned widespread of 2005's most prolific e-mail worm, Sober, is scheduled to start on January 5, 2006 based on commands hard-coded within the worm. The attack date coincides with the death of Sonny Bono, the start of Richard Stallman's GNU project, Alfred Dreyfus' imprisonment and the 1st day of the 2000 Al Qaeda Summit."
Now, in order to understand internet security you need to realize that everything is controlled by the GNU project made up of Free software supporters with help from the nazis. The conspiracy first started during 5th Jan in Devil's Island. They have been responsible for many events throughout history, including the death of Sonny Bono. Today, members of the conspiracy are everywhere. They can be identified by posting articles. They want to imprison Dreyfus and copycat 9/11 using email worm Sober. In order to prepare for this, we all must listen to the hidden news. Since the media is controlled by Richard Stallman we should get our information from slashdot.
Re:5 January Conspiracy (Score:2)
Sure. Sober will break into computer systems but will not attack GNU systems. Now you can guess who is behind. What coincidence!
Please also not the similarity to Exodus 7, see http://www.bartleby.com/108/02/7.html [bartleby.com]
Please keep in mind that Moses was depicted by Michelangelo with a Horn, just like some images of Richard as found on the net. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MichaelangeloMo ses20020315.jpg [wikipedia.org] and watch the GNU symbol below.
And another question is unresolved:
Good Grief, Charlie Brown (Score:2)
And it hates the soldiers, because it's not properly saying good things about the war in Iraq.
And it was written by sodomites, because it attacks gay computers as well...
Oh whatever. Maybe those conspiracy guys were right and putting flouride in our drinking water is making us stupid.
Quit giving them cool names! (Score:2)
Quit doing that! It just glorifies the writers of these things. It's pretty cool sounding to be the guy that wrote Doom or Sasser or Sober. But maybe there'd be a small drop in virus writing if we named them things like 2005 Virus #345. You say that's hard to remember and they will all sound the same?
Re:Quit giving them cool names! (Score:2)
Email virus (Score:2)
This is not an email virus. This is a Microsoft Windows virus. Actually, it's a Microsoft Outlook virus, but nowadays Microsoft ties everything together so tightly that it doesn't matter.
Anyone system not using any Microsoft software, such as systems running Linux and/or *BSD, is completely immune to this (and all the others).
I regularly view all these emails (I use Linux) for no good reason, other than for the fact that I can.
This worm was used for Neo Nazi spam. (Score:4, Informative)
Wikipedia entry (Score:2)
Far more interesting to see the other things associated with the date. Wikipedia has a list [wikipedia.org]
Who knows, maybe it is because its the 11th day of Christmas, and the author wants to bring attention to those 11 pipers piping? Or maybe they wanted everyone to harken back to the day in 1961 when the show Mr. Ed began? Isn't this jumping to a conclusion that isn't warranted by the available facts?
Oh wait, this is /., nevermind
List of events on 5th January (Score:3, Funny)
Who cares about the Nazi party? It's gonna strike 50 years to the day Elvis released Heartbreak Hotel!
Also apparently sympathetic to WWII Japan (Score:2)
Re:Randomness (Score:5, Informative)
If you search before you post, you'll know that Sober-G was used to send out Neo-Nazi spam [atsnn.com]. Buddy Holly was not.
Re:Randomness (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Randomness (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Randomness (Score:2)
Why do people defend their ignorance on a subject while demeaning those that are not ignorant?
Re:Or perhaps... (Score:2)
Re:Wrong historical event (Score:2)
/looks up "Cleveland Steamer" in Roger's Profanisaurus [amazon.co.uk]
You, sir, are one sick, sick, puppy.
Re:Sober? (Score:2)