Flurry of Security Patches 212
yggy writes "It's been a hectic day on the security patching front. Microsoft's bulletins for July include patches for three critical vulnerabilities on the same day that Mozilla releases new security updates for Firefox and Thunderbird. Not to be left behind, Apple fixed two Tiger flaws while Oracle issued a critical database server update." (See these separate stories on today's release of Firefox 1.0.5 and the 10.4.2 update from Apple, too.)
Tomorrow (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Tomorrow (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Tomorrow (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Tomorrow (Score:4, Insightful)
Now, you may argue that that's a bad idea, you should always know what's being installed on your machine and what it might break, etc, and I'd agree. The flip side of that though is that anything that increases the likelihood of home users installing security updates has got to be a Good Thing.
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Editors, can we *please* get this fixed?]
Re:Tomorrow -- NOT (Score:4, Interesting)
Blackhat / DEFCON is at the end of the month in Vegas. This is the scheduled patch release day (at least for MS) before the event.
The vendors have more than likely been notified by the "researchers" who discovered the issues, and are releasing their fixes on a coordinated schedule.
Re:Tomorrow (Score:2)
Re:Tomorrow (Score:3, Funny)
I was going to say "I don't know. Are the users good looking?" but (in the name of good taste) decided not to.
And don't forget... (Score:5, Informative)
KRB5 vulnerability too (Score:5, Informative)
FrSIRT Advisory : FrSIRT/ADV-2005-1066
CVE Reference : CAN-2005-1174 - CAN-2005-1175 - CAN-2005-1689
Rated as : Critical
Remotely Exploitable : Yes
Locally Exploitable : Yes
Release Date : 2005-07-12
* Technical Description *
Multiple vulnerabilities were identified in MIT Kerberos, which could be exploited by remote attackers to execute arbitrary commands or cause a denial of service.
The first issue occurs in the MIT krb5 Key Distribution Center (KDC) implementation when processing specially crafted TCP/UDP requests, which could be exploited by an unauthenticated attacker to cause a denial of service or execute arbitrary code on the KDC host.
The second vulnerability is due to a double-free error in the "krb5_recvauth()" function, which could be exploited by an unauthenticated remote attacker to execute arbitrary code in the context of a program calling the vulnerable function (this includes the kpropd program which typically runs on slave Key Distribution Center hosts).
* Affected Products *
MIT Kerberos 5 version 1.4.1 (krb5-1.4.1) and prior
* Solution *
Upgrade to krb5-1.4.2 release
http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/dist/index.html [mit.edu]
Or apply patches
http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/advisories/2005-002-p
http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/advisories/2005-003-p
* References *
http://www.frsirt.com/english/advisories/2005/106
http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/advisories/MITKRB5-SA
http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/advisories/MITKRB5-SA
* Credits *
Vulnerabilities reported by Daniel Wachdorf and Magnus Hagander
Better solution: (Score:2)
Re:Better solution: (Score:2)
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Non-security fixes in Firefox 1.0.5 (Score:5, Informative)
1.0.5 is mainly a security fix, but I have seen a bunch of non-security fixes creep in also, such as removing the default checkbox "yes" for "make firefox my home page." This looks like a big cleanup for the 1.0.x branch, before 1.1 takes over.
I don't know about the security fixes, besides the medium-risk frame/window spoofing thing (with 1.0.4, you should not open untrusted sites at the same time as sensitive sites...). Here are the non-security fixes (non-security as it seems to me) checked in since 1.0.4:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2837
"Save As" dialog tries to overwrite link/shortcut (.lnk) file instead of opening the directory/folder
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2952
Tab title different from window title on initial load at gmail
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2837
Right arrow key after selecting autocomplete result no longer uses selected item
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2912
update installer packages should offer unchecked check box for setting start page
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2910
Helper app dialog incomplete for non-nsStandardURL types
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2655
(64-bit only issue)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2456
Crash loading (particular)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1418
Table with large rowspans and colspans hangs the browser
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2880
Drag image across browser windows --> crash
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2950
Obscure Javascript crash
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2962
Default user agent problem (AIX platform only)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2808
Crash on OS/2 platform
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2937
bookmarks toolbar missing in 2nd opened window, links in second window possibly cause crash
Re:Non-security fixes in Firefox 1.0.5 (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Non-security fixes in Firefox 1.0.5 (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Non-security fixes in Firefox 1.0.5 (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Non-security fixes in Firefox 1.0.5 (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Non-security fixes in Firefox 1.0.5 (Score:2)
Re:Non-security fixes in Firefox 1.0.5 (Score:2)
On the flipside, it's nice that there are so many regional versions now. I now have Firefox in Irish (Gaelic) at home, along with Microsoft's/Irish Govt's recent project of Windows XP Irish LIP.
auto updating w/o download? (Score:2)
Re:Non-security fixes in Firefox 1.0.5 (Score:2)
But wait... (Score:3, Funny)
Oh, I think I understand now. Only windows sucks when it has security holes and Open Source programs don't suck when they have security holes because they're better than closed source and the patch came out fast... or something. Gotcha.
Microsoft sucks because they release software that needs security patches. Linux rulez!
Re:But wait... (Score:5, Insightful)
Neither does OS suck because they release patches.
Its because microsoft takes so long to release patches for certain vulnerabilities that have been documents - even up to half a year before..
And that the continue to promote products that have been proven to be seriously flawed, and release new versions without those flaws fixed.
There is a difference between releasing a product, and then patching it - and releasing a product knowing it needs patches before its released.
I gotta admit - look how much testing the do on the patches they do release. Service Pack 2 anyone?
Microsoft sucks because it sucks... (Score:3, Interesting)
The point is that Microsoft has vulnerabilities which are usually exploited swiftly. They're usually quite nasty. They're usually in the most popular (bloated) Microsoft software packages. Finally, there's a good chance that patches could cause just as much damage as
thank goodness.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:thank goodness.... (Score:2)
If you're talking about desktops, #1) Do you allow unattended updates? (Shame on you if you do!) #2) If not, how is tomorrow morning going to be any different that any other morning release? Wait, that wouldn't be a problem, since you only test patches on limited machines first.
Re:thank goodness.... (Score:2)
Waiting until the END of the day can be a bad thing because people that come in early and leave early are going to miss the updates, and they'll end up installing them tomorrow morning anyway.
I'm going to assume that you don't plan out/inform users of updates.
Eh, end of the day? (Score:2)
Re:Eh, end of the day? (Score:2)
Hmm.....time to go to Windows Update..... (Score:2, Interesting)
However, despite not updating my Windows install for months, I still have yet to be infected with one virus, spyware/adware program, or have my machine hacked. Maybe it has more to do with the fact that I browse the Internet with care, rather than update with every stupid patch M$ puts out, that creates
Re:Hmm.....time to go to Windows Update..... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Hmm.....time to go to Windows Update..... (Score:3, Insightful)
The fact to the matter is that Microsoft products are so insecure that you need to learn a whole set of rules a
Re:Hmm.....time to go to Windows Update..... (Score:2, Insightful)
I would rather bet money on someone w/o a lot technical skills keeping their Windows box up and connected to the internet then having the same person connect a *nix box to the internet and make sure everything was working.
Good luck getting grandma to connect w/o help from you to "AOL" which is also known to her as the Internet.
Re:Hmm.....time to go to Windows Update..... (Score:2)
Maybe not any setup you can think of, but the ones I've seen most people use are every bit as easy or difficult to run as Windows or OS X.
``I would rather bet money on someone w/o a lot technical skills keeping their Windows box up and connected to the internet then having the same person connect a *nix box to the internet and make sure everything was working.''
Now you're comparing apples and oran
Re:Hmm.....time to go to Windows Update..... (Score:2)
WindowsUpdate freezes PC (Score:3, Interesting)
- Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)
- Security Update for Windows 98 (KB888113)
- Security Update for Windows 98 (KB896358)
- Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB883939)
freeze MS Windows 98SE when older versions of ZoneAlarm start. Uninstalling the old version and installing the lastest ZoneAlarm works.
The problem is most people have ZoneAlarm set to start at boot, and do not know how to bypass ZoneAlarm to get the computer booted so they can fix it.
My guess is since Microsoft is selling its own personal firewall, they will take every opportunity to hurt ZoneAlarm. Or they just wanted to generate PC sales from all those people whose computers are now "broken". Hey, they should have paid for newer versions of Windows many times since Windows98SE was released.
I can't wait to install today's patches!
Re:WindowsUpdate freezes PC (Score:2)
Re:WindowsUpdate freezes PC (Score:4, Informative)
I noticed that every time after I post something on /. I get a line like this in my web server log:
slashdot.org - - [23/Jun/2005:21:58:59 +0200] "GET http://ask.slashdot.org/ok.txt [slashdot.org] HTTP/1.0" 404 200 "-" "libwww-perl/5.803"
No idea what it is supposed to accomplish, but I assume that that is what your firewall is complaining about.
(Note: slashcode converted the URL above into a link, obviously the logfile entry is just a plaintext URL.)
JP
Re:WindowsUpdate freezes PC (Score:2)
Re:WindowsUpdate freezes PC (Score:2)
Wait...? (Score:2)
--- this is with older versions of Zone Alarm, if reinstalling Zone Alarm fixes the problem... why would this be some ploy of Microsoft to hurt Zone Alarm?
Windows 98 isn't exactly new, either, I really doubt they would (if they chose an 'attack' of this sort)
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Perhaps
Answers (Score:2)
I do not know if ZoneLabs fixed something to beat MS, or whether the uninstall/reinstall fixed whatever WindowsUpdate ruined. It won't matter to anyone who's computer is broken by WindowsUpdate.
Win98SE is the best OS produced by MS. Add ZoneAlarm, Mozilla, OpenOffice, and some smarts in the user, and you have a rather secure
Re: Answers (Score:2)
Agreed, but I feel the same about WinXP.
Features like NTFS and kerberos (neither of which are natively supported on Win9x) do help security.
If you are stuck with MSWindows on laptops, NTFS is required for hard drive security in case of theft. I was talking about desktops, but you have a good point.
(I try to forget laptops exist unless a project includes them. I must have a full-si
Re:WindowsUpdate freezes PC (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:WindowsUpdate freezes PC (Score:2)
I do not think Microsoft goes out of its way to cause incompatiblities with older versions of third-party software. I am not even surprised that an OS security patch caused problems for a security add-on product. It was the severity of the result (a non-booting PC) that caused me to post about it.
Well bugger, my bug isn't fixed... (Score:5, Interesting)
The sysadmin mantra lives on: All operating systems suck, they just suck differently.
-Chris
Re:Well bugger, my bug isn't fixed... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Well bugger, my bug isn't fixed... (Score:2)
-Chris
Re:Well bugger, my bug isn't fixed... (Score:2)
It's not intuitive, but when you selected the text in the xterm window, it was automatically copied to the X11 clipboard -- no need to do Edit->Copy. So, to paste it into another X11 app, you can use a middle click (cmd-click in my XDarwin prefs), or shift-insert (this is a trick, I have Enter mapped to Insert via xmodmap :).
It star
Re:Well bugger, my bug isn't fixed... (Score:2)
Once one internalises this information, it becomes clear that many clipboard related problems that people have with X11 are caused by poorly written apps that fail to follow the conventions on the use of the Primary and Clipboard selections.
http://fr [freedesktop.org]
Re:That'll teach you to trust Apple. (Score:4, Interesting)
If I was 'in my right mind' I'd be living in Fiji taking tourists on scuba tours of the soft corals. Since I'm not, I stay in SF and buy shiny toys; and I maintian the right to bitch about them if they don't work as expected. And I've got the balls to do it with a real login account.
-Chris
Oooooh! Button! (Score:2)
Thoughtful Analysis! (Score:4, Funny)
Hey, how'd you know I was drinking Kool-Aid?! Damn, you're a jeenyus!
No sysadmin in his right mind runs OSX.
Brilliant! Can't wait for more! I can tell this is gonna be a fact-filled, detailed primer on what to do right. Give me the straight dope, dude. I'm waiting for it.
Unless he doesn't want *real* support.
Ah, yes. I get it. What you mean is that if you buy Apple products, you won't get *real* support. I don't know what that means or who does provide *real* support, but I guess that's because I'm a dipshit. Damn! I hate when that happens!
Or performance.
I thought Apple hardware was sexy, but I guess it doesn't really "put out" the way other hardware does. I don't need factual comparisons. You're teaching me a lot here. I can't wait to read the next kernel of wisdom.
Or security.
Yeah, OS X is a fucking sieve! If it's not trojan horses it's Mail.app viruses and malware. Every zombie machine out there is running OS X. It's a plague on us all. Fucking Apple!
Or configurability.
I never thought about that, but you're so right. That one configuration fits all XServe sucks major goat ass.
Or standards.
You said it, buddy! I wish Apple would get with the program. I mean, I can run WebStar on OS 8, but why don't they wake up and smell the coffee? It's 1996, and the world is changing. If Apple doesn't wake up, this World Wide Web thing is going to really catch them off guard.
Or a real journaling file system.
That's like *real* support, right? You must mean that HFS+ isn't *real*. I think I'm starting to understand, but you're so brilliant you may have to slow down so I can catch up.
Or real hardware.
Ah, I'm on to you now, you clever sysad, you! This is another one of those "it's not *real*" things. It looks like the hardware is there, doing its job, but it's actually not.
Thanks for clearing this all up, AC. I really learned a lot, and am looking forward to more comments from you. It's going to be tough to read them all though, because you sure are prolific!
Mac OS X 10.4.2 (Score:2, Funny)
With this update, you can use Safari to log in to MyAccount on cingular.com.
now I don't have to fire up firefox just to pay my cell phone bill.
w00t!
I hope... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I hope... (Score:2)
Change to Windows Update (Score:3, Interesting)
The only thing that does work (for me anyway)is the old URL: http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/
No telling how long we have until Microsoft disables it and forces everyone over to a new system that doesn't work. I've always liked, or at least tolerated Windows and I've never understood why everyone here *hates* Microsoft. Now I get it. Hopefully someone will find the above url useful if they have problems.
Excellent, it works! (Score:2)
Thank you very much. The new Windows Update doesn't work with one of my computers. The link you posted works fine, and I would rather put all the patches on a hard disk, anyway.
Microsoft Internet Explorer is one of the most buggy software packages I've ever seen. Windows Update isn't as buggy, but it's trying [google.com].
Security is definitely not one of Microsoft's priorities, unless the priority is to have the most vulnerabilities.
Re:Change to Windows Update (Score:2)
Have you bothered to tell them it doesn't work for you ?
Re:Change to Windows Update (Score:2)
This just proves, once again... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:This just proves, once again... (Score:2)
Re:This just proves, once again... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:This just proves, once again... (Score:2)
This just proves, once again... that the Amiga is the most secure platform out there.
Hah! Only until Contiki [www.sics.se] gets h4><0r3d!
;-)
/slinks off to h4><0r an 8-bit browser...
Re:This just proves, once again... (Score:2)
Yuck :-( (Score:2)
Fx 1.0.5 fixes and NoScript (Score:5, Informative)
Don't Forget MS Office! (Score:5, Informative)
Quote:
Update for Outlook 2003 Junk Email Filter (KB895658)
This update provides the Junk E-mail Filter in Microsoft Office Outlook 2003 with a more current definition of which e-mail messages should be considered junk e-mail. This update was released in July 2005.
I'm using the new Microsoft Update (as opposed to Windows and Office separately) and so should you. And yes, according to their FAQ it adds Office to Windows automatic update.
Link: http://update.microsoft.com/ [microsoft.com]
Ah, choices. (Score:2, Funny)
Oracle Unbreakable (Score:2, Interesting)
They probably have the worst security track record among major databases and yet they get no
updated Windows Malicious Software Removal tool (Score:2, Troll)
Patch Patch Patch Patch Bake Beans and Patch (Score:2)
Got what they asked for? (Score:2)
Sysadmins pressed MS into the strategy of releasing bug fixes on a scheduled monthly basis so that they wouldn't have to be dealing with them continuously through the month. It only makes sense for everyone else to use the same day for the same reason.
Maybe this will increase the rate of application of other patches. People will essentially be reminded of the day when the MS patches automatically arrive and come to know that that is the day that they should check for patches on all of their other product
Re:New patch strategy for MS? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:New patch strategy for MS? (Score:2)
Re:Open source (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Open source (Score:2)
Let the "osx==freebsd" posts begin!
Re:Open source (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Open source (Score:2)
Re:Open source (Score:3, Funny)
Hello. 1948 called. It wants it's book back.
Re:Open source (Score:2)
Re:Open source (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Open source (Score:4, Insightful)
I really like this once a month patch cycle. I get an idea that maybe they plan the patches a little better, and test them more.
Maybe EA should have done that with Battlefield 2, instead of trying to rush a patch out.
Re:Open source (Score:5, Insightful)
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vu
12 vulnerabilities in this patch, the oldest was created in APRIL! And it's marked as high severity.
The newest we don't know, because Mozilla is keeping it hidden until July 20th, but if you take the Bugzilla report number, and add one to it you can get the bug that was created directly after it, and that was created in MAY!
So yes, Mozilla DOES sit on critical bugs for months.
Re:Open source (Score:2, Insightful)
Good grief, you're kidding? What a bunch of lazy bastards. When they get a bug report, they should verify it, find the code responsible, fix the code, verify the fix, keep tweaking the code until it passes all of the tests, rebuild the entire code base, and release the fixed version of Mozilla THE DAY AFTER THEY GET THE BUG REPORT!!!
</sarcasm>
In case you hadn't guessed, these things take a bit of time.
Re:Open source (Score:2)
I never said there had to be a relationship. However, most open source developers tend to release important patches as soon as they're tested, to keep their project safe.
Re:Open source (Score:2)
That's a good question. Some do, some don't. However, most of the people we hear about doing it are Open Source. Maybe that's because there are more people out there with the code helping to get the patches written.
Re:Open source (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Open source (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Open source (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Open source (Score:2)
I'll believe it when my open source web browser tells me I have security updates. I just used Firefox's check for updates feature and tells me there are none.
Aye, I just got that as well. I'm thinking in my case it's my locale: en-gb - there isn't a "British English" version yet. Could it be a locale issue with you, too?
(For the curious, I'm holding off on the upgrade, partly because I want to support localisation efforts, and partly because I'm a big feartie ;-)
Re:Open source (Score:4, Interesting)
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vu
Let's look at the most recent vulnerability there, MFSA-2005-56. Unfortunately, the details are being hidden until July 20th. However, we can see the Bugzilla report numbers. The first, 294795, won't let me view it. But if we view 294796, the bug created right after we see it was created on May 19th. Nearly 2 months ago.
Is 2 months "quickly"?
You seem to be blindly making assumptions without bothering to check the facts.
This is NOT evidence that Open Source fixes bugs quickly. If anything, it proves that just like Closed source, they can keep the bugs quiet and sit on them as long as they like.
Mod Parent Informative (Score:2)
Re:Firefox (Score:4, Insightful)
The beautiful part is the speed at which critical bugs in OSS are corrected after being discovered.
Re:Firefox (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Firefox (Score:2)
But ofcourse, the mods "flamebait" the granparent which had a very valid point.
As gp pointed out, people become zealots so easily.
Re:Safari now FAILS "Acid test" (Score:5, Informative)
Re:So why doesn't (Score:2)
Re:Opera is being left in the dust! (Score:2)
-Lucas