Microsoft Releases Windows Server 2003 SP1 371
Masq666 writes "Microsoft has wrapped up development on the first major update to its Windows Server 2003 operating system and released it for download, The company said that Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 is currently available for download via Microsoft's site and will soon start showing up on new servers. Among the primary benefits of the free update is the inclusion of security enhancements similar to those added to Windows XP with last year's Service Pack 2. News.com.com has more details and commentary."
Re: Microsoft Releases Windows Server 2003 SP1 (Score:3, Funny)
Re: Microsoft Releases Windows Server 2003 SP1 (Score:5, Interesting)
The PSSU feature, though (as I mentioned in another post), that blocks incoming traffic on first boot and immediately directs the user to download updates is awesome. Why other companies haven't thought about this, I have no idea. I really hope this gets put into the next consumer version of Windows.
Re: Microsoft Releases Windows Server 2003 SP1 (Score:2)
[sarc]
But wizards help to let everyone have a server. Its the logical follow up to having spelling and grammar checking in your software. Pretty soon, you won't need to learn about anything to administer a windows cluster. Heck, you won't even need a mouse or schooling. Just a microphone, voice recognition software and that MIT metaphor software. You'll just growl at your compute
Re: Microsoft Releases Windows Server 2003 SP1 (Score:2, Troll)
I disagree that the primary message is that the user is incompetent. If your server insecure out of the box in such simple ways that they can be fixed using a security wizard, you're using the wrong operating system. This is a server OS, it makes no sense to have it be insecure by default.
Re: Microsoft Releases Windows Server 2003 SP1 (Score:2)
Theo is that you?
Re: Microsoft Releases Windows Server 2003 SP1 (Score:4, Informative)
Who said it's insecure out of the box? I realize this is /. - one big, happy bandwagon - but serious try using it and reading about it. All unnecessary services are shutdown and not even IIS is installed by default (unless you get the web edition of 2003).
Re: Microsoft Releases Windows Server 2003 SP1 (Score:2)
Intriguing. (Score:5, Informative)
All in all, though, it's damn stable and secure as is, and it's pretty responsive.
Re:Intriguing. (Score:5, Interesting)
FWIW, Microsoft did manage to consolidate things about the time of XP. The reason why they unconsolidated was to bring many of their security features to the server market so that they wouldn't get trounced on by the competition before Longhorn is released. And to actually say something nice about Microsoft, 2003 *is* more secure. Unfortunately, most of that security is added in a rather stupid way. "You can't run IE because it is insecure. Would you like to make it runnable anyway? (Y/N)" (rolls eyes)
Re:Intriguing. (Score:3)
I'm not quite sure why this was modded insightful - the new desktop OS XP64 is built upon the same codebase as 2K3 SP1, and accordingly, both XP64 and 2K3 SP1 went RTM (final) at the same time.
I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2)
However, it doesn't hurt to turn it on and refuse all traffic until Windows Update has been visited.
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2, Interesting)
I have a couple dedicated servers and my biggest beef with 2003 is that it didn't come with a built in software firewall. Not only that, decent 3rd party wares were/are hard to find and had "more than I needed". There are a couple strategies for protecting your interfaces such as using RRAS to nat all outgoing requests, and forward incoming ones, but for whatever reason is difficult to get working correctly.
All in all a welcome update, but I'd like to know why it wasn't part of the original r
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:5, Informative)
Windows Basic Firewall [microsoft.com]
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2)
PEBCAK.
Seriously though, why cry about a software firewall missing anyway? Anyone worth their weight in penguin poop uses a Cisco or other router to do alot of their dirty work for them. A software firewall is more like a last line of defense. I'd hate to see these guys running a group of servers in an average IT department. "No software firewall? Oh well! I'll just plug it into the t1 on it's public IP and away we go!"
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2)
NAT protects at the interface level. Port forwarding is also accomplished at the interface level. The "firewalling" can be done by setting up general port forwards for the interface, and specifying IP filters for address in the NAT pool. This is a "hack" as far as I'm concerned. Primarily because the NAT/Basic Firewall is mislabeled. It's NAT with port forwarding and an option to filter packets. This setup can end up acting like a firewall but it's difficult to setup, use and admi
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2, Informative)
Vanilla 2003 server. Control Panel --> Network Connections--> Local Area Connections --> Properties-->Advanced--> "INTERNET CONNECTION FIREWALL"
Hmm, what do you know, a software firewall built into it.
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2)
I should have had been a little more specific. I'm looking for a firewall from MS, at least on their server OS that has at least as much functionality as IP Chains or PF. The NAT RRAS solution doesn't work very well - nor does the built in ICF.
Thank you for playing, please try again.
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:4, Informative)
2003 has always had a firewall, ICF. NT, since at least version 4.0 has always had a firewall, but unfortunately, it was wrapped in the "IPSec Policy" functionality at the time.
I would expect a clueless MS basher to actually look before flaming, though.
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2, Informative)
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2, Informative)
The XP family bundled IPSec into a simple wrapper called Windows firewall, which was expanded upon in SP2 to provide things like warnings etc, and it is this functionality that has been cross-ported to the Server line.
Regards,
-Steve Gray
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:4, Informative)
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2)
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:5, Informative)
Examples:
You've got service "A" that you only want to allow connections from localhost.
Service "B" you only want connections from your local LAN
Service "C" you only want connections from one particular IP.
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2)
I haven't tried 2003 SP1 yet but I imagine it brings the firewall up to the functionality of the XP SP2 firewall.
Re:I am not a Win S2K3 admin, but (Score:2)
There are many a small business (in the States) that could set up their own light use webserver without having to worry about hiring a professional administrator.
I think it is irresponsible of Microsoft not to provide them with basic tools to run a simple Web server for example.
"beta version of Longhorn Server later this year" (Score:5, Informative)
So what is "later this year" in Microsoft time?
This?
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/longhorn_pre
Longhorn Milestone 9 (M9) and platform complete
March 2005
Longhorn Beta 1
Late May 2005
Longhorn Beta 2
October 2005
Longhorn Release Candidate 0 (RC0)
Late February 2006
Longhorn Release Candidate 1 (RC1)
April 2006
Longhorn release to manufacturing (RTM)
May 24, 2006
Re:"beta version of Longhorn Server later this yea (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:"beta version of Longhorn Server later this yea (Score:3, Informative)
I was just reading about WinFS being back-ported to XP and 2k3 server [microsoft-watch.com]. Dunno, but that seems like we won't be herded into upgrades as forcefully as it initially appeared before indigo and avalon were backported.
Re:"beta version of Longhorn Server later this yea (Score:2)
Clicky [microsoft.com]
For the impatient, Win2k Pro will be dropped (mainstream support) on June 30, 2005.
Re:"beta version of Longhorn Server later this yea (Score:2)
Longhorn SERVER, not client
Brilliant idea (Score:5, Interesting)
1.) Blocks all incoming traffic.
2.) Immediately guides the first person who logs on through downloading updates.
This would be such a terrific blessing for new XP users: block traffic and immediately send them off to the update site. Excellent idea.
Re:Brilliant idea (Score:2)
Re:Brilliant idea (Score:2)
That said, what it'd probably do is show the new user dialog, go to the site and bail out. I haven't tested what happens when the network card isn't properly installed.
Re:Brilliant idea (Score:2)
Luckily, this is exactly what happens when a user installs Windows XP SP2 on a system. The firewall is enabled by default and the system starts harassing you about automatic updates.
Re:Brilliant idea (Score:2)
In this new system, all traffic is blocked and the user is shuttled off to the Windows Update site. They can disable settings later if they want. This way, it's secure out of the box.
Re:Brilliant idea (Score:2)
But yeah, this is PSSU thing does sound like a pretty good idea. Surely this will make it into Longhorn.
Except When You Have An Enterprise (Score:2)
In any event, this might be a great idea for small install bases but if you have administer a number of machines this is not feasible. Having to remotely monkey with machine is enough of a bur
Re:Brilliant idea (Score:2)
Re:Brilliant idea (Score:2)
Re:I'm impressed (Score:3, Insightful)
Just think of it, closing all open ports from incoming traffic by default now. Wow. Why didn't anyone else come up with this great idea before?"
It's not what you're thinking of - I don't think you're getting it. This isn't a firewall that gets turned on. Rather, the user can't do anything on the network until the system is up-to-date. It basically sandboxes the user from all internet traffic but the update site. I don't know of a single other O
Enhancements / New Features (Score:5, Informative)
In addition to finding and updating security holes before hackers can exploit them, Service Pack 1 includes improvements to functionality that originally shipped with Windows Server 2003. Such enhancements make a great product better and raise the security, reliability, and productivity of Windows Server 2003. Below are brief descriptions of some of the key enhancements included in Service Pack 1:
Stronger defaults and privilege reduction on services--Services such as RPC and DCOM are integral to Windows Server 2003, but they are also an alluring target for hackers. By requiring greater authentication for RPC and DCOM calls, Service Pack 1 establishes a minimum threshold of security for all applications that use these services, even if they possess little or no security themselves.
Support for "no execute" hardware--Service Pack 1 allows Windows Server 2003 to utilize functionality built in to computing hardware, from companies such as Intel and Advanced Micro Devices, to prevent malicious code from launching attacks from areas of computer memory that should have no code running in it. For both 32-bit and 64-bit systems, this enhancement closes the door on one of the broadest and most exploited avenues of information attack.
Network Access Quarantine Control components included--Windows Server 2003 SP1now includes the Rqs.exe and Rqc.exe components to make deployment ofNetwork Access Quarantine Control easier. For more information, see Network Access Quarantine Control in Windows Server 2003.
IIS 6.0 metabase auditing--The metabase is the XML-based, hierarchical store of configuration information for Internet Information Services (IIS) 6.0. The ability to audit this store allows network administrators to see which user accessed the metabase in case it becomes corrupted.
New features
Microsoft is taking the opportunity afforded by the release of Service Pack 1 to introduce powerful new functionality to Windows Server 2003.
Windows Firewall--Also released with Windows XP Service Pack 2, Windows Firewall is the successor of the Internet Connection Firewall. Windows Firewall is a host (software) firewall, a firewall around each client and server computer on a customer's network. Unlike Windows XP Service Pack 2, the Windows Firewall is off by default on Server 2003 Service Pack 1, and must be turned on to begin protecting systems. The Windows Firewall is enabled for a brief time during Service Pack 1 clean installs for the duration of the new Post-Setup Security Updates portion of setup.
Post-Setup Security Updates (PSSU)--Servers are vulnerable in the time between initial installation and having the latest security updates applied. To counter this, Windows Server 2003 with Service Pack 1 uses Windows Firewall to block all inbound connections to the server after installation until Windows Update delivers the latest security updates to the new computer. After updating, Windows Firewall is turned off until it is configured for server roles. PSSU also guides users through immediate configuration of Automatic Updates.
Security Configuration Wizard (SCW)--SCW is a wizard that configures server security based upon existing server roles. SCW asks questions about server roles and then stops all services not necessary to perform those roles. SCW will not add roles, but will configure the server around the roles it performs. Like boarding-up unused doors, this new feature helps reduce the attack surface of Windows Server 2003.
One more SP to go to make it worth installing... (Score:4, Funny)
64 bit XP (Score:5, Interesting)
Fascinatingly Uninteresting (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Fascinatingly Uninteresting (Score:2, Insightful)
This SP is the basis for Longhorn? (Score:3, Interesting)
Microsoft is also using the Windows Server 2003 SP1 code base as the starting point for the next desktop version of Windows, code-named Longhorn, which is slated to arrive next year.
Wasn't Longhorn supposed to originally be released this year? If they're going to use this service pack as a code base, they must be a long, long, long way off from a longhorn release . . .
329.3 MB Of What? Why The Monolithic Patches? (Score:5, Interesting)
"Download time remaining: 22 minutes"
So now I'm chained to box since I suspect at some point I need to click something on some dialog to complete installation (this is an assumption but past history on other updates tells me I should watch the process to make sure it goes all the way through).
On the other hand I had to setup sever based off of FC3 yesterday and out of the box it required to download 450MBish of stuff broken into 150+ individual downloads. After installing the gpg keys, I started the update ('yum -y update') and walked away from it. Other systems have something that is just as easy and dare say fool proof.
I would really like MS to bite off things in smaller chunks. I do recognize the fact that every part of the 329MB download is probably necessary but why not roll out in both a large chunk and small chunks to accomidate different enterprise configurations? I like having options on rollout but I constantly find Windows rollouts very lacking.
Re:329.3 MB Of What? Why The Monolithic Patches? (Score:3, Informative)
This is exactly what they do. The large 300+ MB download is designed for network administrators who want to download the whole thing to apply to multiple machines. If
Small Business Server 2003? (Score:2, Informative)
Oh Great..... (Score:2)
Among the primary benefits of the free update is the inclusion of security enhancements similar to those added to Windows XP with last year's Service Pack 2
In other words now you've finished dealing with the chaos that was caused by XP SP2 you can now start dealing with the chaos that is S2k3 SP1
Posters Don't Know What to Bitch About (Score:5, Insightful)
1) They are easy to crack remotely with default installs.
2) Weekly if not daily patches are required.
So, Microsoft comes out with SP1 and people are already whining.
1) What is the "no inbound connections by default" stuff going to help?
2) The length of time between Windows 2003's release and its first service pack.
C'mon people, put it together.
Netbooting Windows with tftp in SP1! (Score:3, Interesting)
BartPE using PXE [epitech.net]
Booting Windows from a Debian box [msfn.org]
It's nice to see Microsoft pick this up. Booting Windows with standard tools, what a concept!
I'm sooooo spoiled with anaconda kickstarts... can Microsoft make deploying servers as easy as RedHat/Fedora?
LAND attack? (Score:2, Funny)
-maztuh
Mod Parent Up - Here's the Link (Score:2)
Of course, the new on-by-default firewall might help, but once a couple of holes get poked in it...
Here's what the poster was chatting about... http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/07/141 4234&tid=201&tid=172&tid=128&tid=109&tid=218 [slashdot.org]
Security Configuration Wizard (SCW) for XP? (Score:3, Insightful)
The "Security Center [microsoft.com]" on XP is pretty cheesy, didn't even include an updated MBSA [microsoft.com] until a couple months after XP sp2 was released. Most folks won't dig into using the Local Security Policy snap-in [microsoft.com] or Security Configuration and Analysis snap-in [microsoft.com], or fiddle with changing their template [microsoft.com].
Weeeee! (Score:2, Insightful)
YES! I bet W2k3 server sysadmins will just love the new security features of XP like that great firewall. You know... the one that blocks local ICMP pings by default!
Re:Weeeee! (Score:2)
Re:Weeeee! (Score:2)
It's not nitpicking - the firewall works reasonably well, but the defaults are awful. There's no reason to leave out a basic network tool like pinging.
Re:Weeeee! (Score:2)
Tradeoff, securityusability.
MBSA 2.0? (Score:2)
In other news.. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Free update ? (Score:2)
Re:Free update ? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Free update ? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Free update ? (Score:2)
Re:Free update ? (Score:2)
You won't get an e-mail.
Re:Free update ? (Score:2)
Part of the reason for this is that Server 2003 is intended to be a server OS, and anyone who buys it is generally getting it from an OEM and therefore has a legitimate key.
Not too many people will buy it as a standalone, and those who pirate it will probably do so for development purposes. It's not exactly a perfect desktop OS; that's XP's niche, and that's far more pirated than Server 2003.
Re:Free update ? (Score:5, Insightful)
No bubbly playskool theme. No MSN Messenger popups. No product activation. No "take the tour!". No windows media player intruding into everything. IE is crippled by default -- ripe for Firefox installation.
It feels a lot more like if you took 2000 Pro and added the few GOOD things about XP.
Re:Free update ? (Score:2)
Re:Free update ? (Score:2)
Clicky (Score:3, Informative)
First, last I checked none of Microsoft's patches required sending an activation code yet in order to download; so far, they're just asking very nicely (for a corporate behemoth)-- you could still say no and download any of them.
Second, for this service pack Billy Boy doesn't even ask; just go to the URL given in the story, click the button and download. Or, just download directly once someone provides the karma-whoring direct file link [microsoft.com] for y
Re:heh (Score:3, Insightful)
</sarcasm>
Re:heh (Score:3, Funny)
Pfff! As if! Bill Gates would take your bet, then he'd make sure that copies of SP1 stay out of the hands of the most common bug reporters, that tech support convienently "loses" any reports that do come in, and he'd send CERT on an all expenses paid (and tax deductable!) vacation for doing such a good job.
Then he'd collect his 10 pounds, and make a fortune off of advertising that 2003 is more secure than ever!
Re:heh (Score:2)
Re:heh (Score:3, Informative)
Apply Windows 2000 Default Internet Explorer Security Settings
If Internet Explorer Enhanced Security Configuration is enabled on your server, you may decide to use the default Internet Explorer security settings used by Windows 2000.
To do this, follow these steps:
1. Open Control Panel, click Add or Remove Programs, and then click Add/Remove Windows Components.
2. Select Internet Explorer Enhanced Security Configuration, click to clear the selection, and then click OK.
3. C
Re:heh (Score:2, Informative)
Considering that the only reason why you need a web browser on a server is for troubleshooting and patch downloads, then disabling browser plugins, disabling auto-file open/external URL handlers, and removing ActiveX support should do the trick ni
Re:We just got BSOD (Score:2)
I sure it was a test server. I can't imagine any *good* admin configuring a production system to automagically recieve updates.
It sucks to be you today.
how did a blatant liar get modded up? (Score:5, Informative)
Slashbots are morons for a) believing this troll and b) modding it up.
Re:We just got BSOD (Score:2)
Applying a brand new update for any OS (be it Linux or Windows) on a production server is simply stupid, I have only now just downloaded the information sheets on SP1 to deploy on our lab servers. Your also stupid if you have automatic update running at all on a production server.
Now I think you are most likely lieing as it hasn't been released to automatic updates (Microsoft isn't that much of an asshole). Second Microsoft support is pay for hour (at least I ha
Update - re: Automatic updates, etc. (Score:2)
And no, it wasn't a production box. And no, this is not trolling or FUD; this is a legit problem and I doubt we're the only ones seeing it. When the problem reared its ugly head I thought I'd take a look on /. to see if anyone else is having this problem.
Once we get this sorted out, I'll post notes about how it worked out.
Amazing how political this stuff gets.
Re:We just got BSOD (Score:2)
What a crock.
Re:We just got BSOD (Score:2, Informative)
It is available through Windows Update right now. I don't know if it will work through Automatic Updates, but if you manually activate Windows Update the scan results page will inform you that it is one of the "Critical Updates and Service Packs".
wrong (Score:2)
Re:wrong (Score:2)
Re:Are you running NAV corp? (Score:2)
Re:Just once ... (Score:3, Insightful)
The open-source world must scare you shitless then. A lot of those projects have a release-of-the-day or release-of-the-week...
Re:Fails the "Stuff that Matters" test (Score:3)
Unless you're an introverted cubicle-minion who gets away dealing only with a narrow set of *nix or mainframe applications (which never talk to Windows boxes), I would think Win2K3sp1 is news.
Another way to look at is that Slashdot will happily post the latest release of "NotReallyNecessaryUtility 0.3 Beta" as news...
Re:Holy Crap (Score:5, Insightful)
Mod Parent Down, Uninformed (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Holy Crap (Score:5, Insightful)
All the libraries are recompiled (Score:2)
Re:Holy Crap (Score:5, Insightful)
This is different from Linux packages how, though? RPM doesn't do deltas. DEB doesn't do deltas. Every time there's a patch to one piece of the kernel, you have to download the entire kernel package again. Mandrake 10.1 has gone through at least three full RPM releases of KDE 3.2 for bugfixes -- that's not a fun set of downloads, let me tell you.
It's a valid criticism for everyone, not just MS.
What are you on about? (Score:3, Informative)
Last time I looked at ftp.kernel.org, there were lots of nice patches in the
Some of the deltas are large (a couple mb), but nothing like the size of a full kernel download.
Re:Horse Escapes; Barn Door Closes (Score:2)
Re:Horse Escapes; Barn Door Closes (Score:2)
Re:Horse Escapes; Barn Door Closes (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:SP1 Now I Can Install! (Score:3, Insightful)