First Symbian OS virus to replicate over MMS 179
Shachaf writes "A new virus, CommWarrior.a, is the first to replicate over MMS (Multimedia Message Service). From the article: 'Multimedia Message Service (MMS) is a more advanced version of the Short Message Service (SMS) familiar to users of GSM based handsets around the world, and allows rich content such as pictures, sounds, video, and applications to be sent as well as text.', and '"With MMS messages typically costing between $0.25 and $1.00 CommWarrior could prove expensive to anyone unlucky enough to be infected by it. As the virus runs silently in the background it could be quite some time before the user becomes aware of the potentially hundreds of MMS messages that have been sent," said Aaron Davidson, CEO of SimWorks.'"
First AV As well... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:First AV As well... (Score:3, Interesting)
Why is Symbian so insecure - surely an embedded OS is not difficult to harden? It is not as if the phone will be running lots of insecure services by default.
Another reason to stick with my simple phone!
Re:First AV As well... (Score:2)
Re:First AV As well... (Score:2)
(at least, that's my response to this whole debacle...)
Re:First AV As well... (Score:2)
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Re:First AV As well... (Score:2)
Uh... all communication coming into the phone requires a service to receive it. Bluetooth, MMS, and the calls themselves all need something to receive them. A communications device is going to be insecure by nature unless great effort is taken to secure it. The reason this hasn't been a problem until now is because people couldn't remotely control or transfer data (other than plain text and the calls themselves) to and from th
Wow! (Score:5, Insightful)
I never put any credence into the ativirus companies writing viruses conspiracy theories but, that one's just too fishy.
Re:Wow! (Score:2)
Eh, look at it this way, does Microsoft write viruses? After all, it's really suspicious that you hear about vulnerabilities and there are already viruses that take advantage!
Well, not really. It's just there are a lot of people in the world; some of them strike quickly to write viruses, some of them strike quickly to write antivirus software.
Re:Apples to oranges. (Score:2)
This because Microsoft service packe fix flaws in the product from the get-go. That is, they keep fixing things th
Re:Wow! (Score:2)
I've read interviews by some AV companies that say they have already developed an AV program for linux, but they won't release it until there's an actual virus to create the demand.
Besides, do you really think an AV company is going to risk the whole business by covertly developing a virus? If
Who developed it? (Score:2)
Conspiracy Theories.. (Score:2)
besides, it couldnt be the phone companies thats to direct. its obviously the anti-virus companies..
They're in it with the martians.
Re:Who developed it? (Score:2)
Why bother with a virus when they already spam you with ads? I had a rather unpleasant experience with verizon not too long ago
I started recieving text messages to upgrade my service to another plan, almost on a daily basis. After awhile I responded to one of them stating that the attorney general of my state would be notified if any more unsolicited messages arrived. Within 10 seconds of sending the reply, my phone rang. It was verizon telling me that in my agreement was a clause allowing them to send 'a
Re:Who developed it? (Score:2)
Well (Score:3, Funny)
another good reason to have a simple cellphone (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:another good reason to have a simple cellphone (Score:2, Funny)
Actually, we laugh at you for OTHER reasons, but if you want to believe it's your crappy phone, go ahead.
Re:another good reason to have a simple cellphone (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:another good reason to have a simple cellphone (Score:4, Insightful)
2: you need go through the installing of the application yourself.
3: when installing it warns you that it is not signed and potentially unsafe.
4: you could get one of the antivirus solutions which mostly are snakeoil(because if you are smart enough to install one.. wouldn't you be smart enough to NOT click through the install?).
the way this is most probable to spread is by intentional spreding by some kids, like other symbian 'viruses'(they're all programs that you have to click through the install by yourself) it's almost impossible to bump into this by total accident in the wild.
what's to note is that these symbian phones are open in the same sense a pc is - ANYONE can develope anything they want for them(and they're STILL more secure than a pc with the modem plugged to the wall). including you! if you're a nerd you should appreciate that possibility, if you're not wtf you're doing on slashdot anyways?
Re:another good reason to have a simple cellphone (Score:2, Funny)
(Sure, you're safer, but most people prefer functionality over safety. I'll keep my WAP browser and Bluetooth contact synchronization, thank you very much, even with the gaping hole in Bluetooth.)
Liability (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Liability (Score:3, Insightful)
But my cell phone is about 5 years old now, so I don't have to worry about these things.
phone is an appliance (Score:2)
The provider, or failing that, the company who made the phone should clearly be responsible.
Re:Liability (Score:2)
FWIW, it got sent from "miriam at hotmail dot com", and was advertising some update at some background check service. (I spamproofed it because it was almost certainly spoofed, and don't want to hurt innocent people.)
It's a bit offtopic, but.. (Score:2, Interesting)
Why wont anyone allow a flat-rate service? I mean.. it's data, but Im sure the cost of building the cellular networks should be paid off by now (excluding 3G).. at least here in sweden. (dont know how it's worldwide)
Re:It's a bit offtopic, but.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:It's a bit offtopic, but.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:It's a bit offtopic, but.. (Score:2)
It's the same for long distance
Re:It's a bit offtopic, but.. (Score:2)
Re:It's a bit offtopic, but.. (Score:2)
T-Mobile offers unlimited data/SMS (Score:1)
Re:It's a bit offtopic, but.. (Score:2)
Which is why competition is a good thing. Up until recently, here in my country (which is said to be the SMS capital of the world...), there were only two GSM mobile providers (Globe [globe.com.ph] and Smart [smart.com.ph]). They both had nearly the same rates and pricing, and your only reason for choosing one over the other was if all of your contacts were generally concentrated on one network or the other (because non-interconnect rates were slightly lower) And then came along a third (Sun Cellular [suncellular.com.ph]), and they introduced a flat-rate pr [suncellular.com.ph]
Eh.. (Score:3, Interesting)
Are the customers reponsible for all the charges incurred from this virus? Being that it probably uses a flaw in the phone's OS itself.. how is this going to work?
Nobody is going to want fancy new fangled smart-phones if they get infected with viruses and run up your phone bill monthly..
Re:Eh.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Seems like the cell providers could kill this quickly. Can't they recognize the virus signature in the messages that are transmitted? And can't they trace them back through the links to find out where it originated? Are there really holes that big allowing people to upload crap like this anonymously?
Re:Eh.. (Score:2)
Though I haven't checked lately, my cell provider's webpage had an interface to send text messaging to cellphone subscribers...
So if you took your war-messaging script to a cybercafe, you'd have some measure of anonymity...
Re:Eh.. (Score:2)
Re:hasn't worked... (Score:2)
I think something like this needs to be aired in a courtroom. While the phone manufacturers may not be found culpable, the cell providers might have demonstrated a willingness to drag their feet in order to maximise profits. And that would be a good start.
Re:Eh.. (Score:2)
I guess I don't bitch now if my email provider strips out both viruses AND spam, although that's just me. Some people probably have a problem with giving them that much power.
If the virus sends a relatively uniform... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:If the virus sends a relatively uniform... (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, god forbid a cellphone company take advantage of unsavvy customers....
Re:If the virus sends a relatively uniform... (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry to be so cynical, but I just see these "services" (and all cell phone costs) as tremendously overpriced. It's just data. The bandwidth has a fixed cost (it's just the sum of maintenance, capital investments, marketing, etc.) Throw in 10% or 20% over cost for a profit margin, and call it done. But no, they have to have "minutes" and "plans" and "packages", all of which are expressly designed to mislead the buyers into spending as much money as possible, regardless of the amount of "service" they "consume." And we, the sheeple, consume it readily.
Re:If the virus sends a relatively uniform... (Score:1)
Re:If the virus sends a relatively uniform... (Score:2)
Re:If the virus sends a relatively uniform... (Score:1)
Re:If the virus sends a relatively uniform... (Score:1)
Thank you, thank you. I'd like to thank all the talented nominees, and of course, God, above all.
One love.
(-1: Offtopic)
Customers pay, and they should. (Score:2, Insightful)
I think this should be considered to be no different to internet connection. In this context I'd like to say "PC /w internet connection" == "Mobile".
If you have a internet connection for which you pay per used bandwidth and you get a virus, do you get refund? You get 0wned and someone uses you as a spam relay, you get black-listed. Should you get refunded?
No. You should make sure tha
Trojan not virus (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Trojan not virus (Score:2, Informative)
It is littered with warnings and confirmation screens. Anyone who got this virus had to endure the installation process confirmations. It is worse than a EULA.
I find that I lack sympathy for a user who repeatedly selected "ok" and "continue" after being warned that this software cannot be verified -- software that arrived unsolicited.
It takes a whole new kind of inattention to allow this virus t
Re:Trojan not virus (Score:2, Informative)
A trojan is a piece of software that contains malicious code, which COULD be a virus or worm, but it is not necessary. It could simply do something nasty without spreading.
A virus is a piece of malicious code that attaches itself to another program. Just like biological viruses infect cells to reproduce.
A worm is a piece of malicious code that simply replicates. For example the original Internet worm broke into other systems and executed itse
Viruses (Score:2, Funny)
Well at least there's one alternative (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Well at least there's one alternative (Score:2)
Should this cost consumers? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Should this cost consumers? (Score:1)
Maybe Dweight Yokel got a computer training lesson he won't forget, and for less money then a computer school.
Re:Should this cost consumers? (Score:1)
My own telephone is one which could be infected. I have already contacted T-Mobile to find out if they plan on filtering this as it passes through their servers. In the meantime, I just won't accept MMS messages from people I know without verifying that the sender actua
No! That would be very bad. (Score:1)
Before you start pointing the finger at the ISP's, you have to think deeper into the repercussions of moderation of their networks. More moderation simply means more people to control what is being passed th
Re:Should this cost consumers? (Score:2)
telco's will have to respond by lowering costs of those services.
I predict the ultimate result of this will be flat-rate MMS.
Re:Should this cost consumers? (Score:2)
Re:Should this cost consumers? (Score:2)
Should SBC, Verizon, or Sprint pay for the international calls that the dialer that snuck onto your PC when you downloaded that "download this program for the best XXX" thingy made? NO!
Should Cingular or T-Mobile pay for the MMS messages that this Trojan/worm uses to replicate, especially after you told it "Yes, I KNOW this thing is unsigned and may be dangerous, but I want to install it anyway"? NO!
Just don't install stuff you got over mms from.. (Score:3, Interesting)
this needs manual installation by the 'victim'!
not very likely to spread too far either - a lot of people don't have even the mms settings in place.
Re:Just don't install stuff you got over mms from. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Just don't install stuff you got over mms from. (Score:2)
On my Nokia 6225 (not a Symbian phone), I can change that setting from Menu>Settings>Time settings>Auto-update of date & time. Grabs it from the network, auto time zone compensation.
Re:Just don't install stuff you got over mms from. (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, anyways there is times when people except messages from certain providers. Like when people are arrive to a new country they are quite accustomed to a welcome to a new country messages.
As an example I know a case where one of our customers did accept Cabir over bluetooth because it was send with a sender name of a local operator. Unfortunatily I can't see a difference in a MMS case. User that thinks
Time to rob the rich and give to the...rich (Score:2, Funny)
Sure would like a link... (Score:2)
Re:Sure would like a link... (Score:2, Informative)
Symbian AntiVirus... (Score:1)
Looks like a trojan, not a virus (Score:4, Interesting)
CommWarrior periodically sends MMS messages to randomly selected contacts, including a copy of itself and one of several predefined text messages designed to encourage the recipient to install the application.
Doesn't really seem this is Symbian's fault, CommWarrior just behaves like a malicious application. The user obviously has to install it and then run it to get 0wned.
Of course, some sort of sandbox environment like in Microedition Java would have been a better design, but I guess Symbian simply wasn't built with something like this in mind. I know Nokia is pushing a model where only certified developers will be allowed to write applications that access sensitive functionality (dialing numbers, sending messages, etc.), but this is not a great solution. It will drive the cost of applications way up, and shaft all the small app developers, because only the big guys will have their apps signed by Nokia.
Re:Looks like a trojan, not a virus (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Looks like a trojan, not a virus (Score:2)
hehe (Score:3, Informative)
Maybe people need to learn that the home phone is better for calling friends and mobiles are mostly for emergencies and when someone needs to urgently contact you..
Gotta luv a biz model that rewards this, don't you (Score:2)
What's the name of this company, 'Lumburg'?
CommWarrior on Symantec (Score:1)
News like this (Score:2)
Um...it's transmitting (Score:5, Interesting)
WTF? (Score:1)
Kind of depressing isn't it? (Score:3, Insightful)
So, you'd think they'd have taken a lesson from a decade of history and limited the power of multimedia attachments.
This issue is easily solved (Score:3, Interesting)
The first Microsoft smartphone product had this feature turned on - normal joe's couldn't install software that hadn't been signed (the signing process usually costs $$ although recent efforts have reduced the cost).
Symbian *has* the same functionality. In fact, most commercial symbian software should now be signed, see Symbian Signed Symbian also has the functionality to disallow users to install unsigned programs. It is just that this feature is turned off by default (at least on the phones that I have seen).
Theoretically, all an operator needs to due is send an OTA message to turn on signing verification. This is easily done on a windows mobile and presumable via WAP push on Symbian. We probably will see operators start to turn on signing requirements by default on symbian phones (hopefully with the capability for users to turn it off so they can install freeware if they so choose).
Re:This issue is easily solved (Score:2)
Why shouldn't _ALL_ operating systems do this?
(The above questions are intended to be highly tongue in cheek, actually)
Re:This issue is easily solved (Score:2)
Already being filtered (Score:3, Interesting)
The only problem is indeed the cost of sending these messages. I do hope that operators are not charging customers for these undelivered messages.
Good thing.. (Score:2)
Re:LOL (Score:3, Funny)
Ha! When I was your age, "old school" meant using a rotary dial, pulse landline.
Re:LOL (Score:1)
We had a telegraph, and it suited us just fine (spits).
Of course, every now and then a herd o' buffalo would knock down a pole, and we'd have to go ridin' out there to fix it in a blizzard. But, then, I guess you youngsters are used to havin' it easy.
(Eagerly awaits even-more-outlandish response)
Re:Why are people still using Symbian (Score:1)
Re:Why are people still using Symbian (Score:1)
Actually, on second thought, that is slightly less likely. How many users would take apart their car, buy a CAN card (around $1000 US), find drivers for their symbian, in fact find a CAN card that works with a PDA, get a company to port their diagnostic software to the PDA, construct or buy a CAN cable (only 4 wires, not
Re:That sucks, yeah, but look at the bright side! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:That sucks, yeah, but look at the bright side! (Score:2)
I can understand pictures, sure. I can understand sound, er. okay, we have voicemail for that. I simply cannot comprehend sending someone an application. A program, something executable. It is pure overkill. Why not just refer him/her to where you got the app from? That will centralize things a bit.
Applications are the new scapegoat for "things you can send to friends". Don't want to do it in email, now you don't want t
Re:That sucks, yeah, but look at the bright side! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:That sucks, yeah, but look at the bright side! (Score:2)
Hmmm...where do you live? I pay a flat fee monthly...for unlimited nights and weekends...free long distance...and like 500 or so minutes during peak hours. I rarely talk on it during the weekdays..as that I'm at a desk with a l
Europe (Score:3, Informative)
Typically these rates aren't too bad, but when you start calling from one network to another they can get VERY high. In the UK I would pay close to 1$US/minute to call from orange -> tmobile.
Text messages are generally very cheap and practical. Plus they are better for communicating certain types of information s
Re:Europe (Score:2)
However i had a verizon phone before that which could only text message on certain networks.
It's been a feature of GSM networks since they were created in the early 90s (iirc) but some US networks were pretty slow to catch on. Perhaps there's something cultural about europe where people don't like to talk in lots of places... resturants in the US certainly don't seem out of bounds
Re:Europe (Score:2)
Old AT&T (TDMA, GSM), Cingular (GSM), T-Mobile (GSM), Sprint (CDMA), Verizon (CDMA), Tracfone (CDMA), Alltel (CDMA), and Nextel (iDEN) all support text messaging.
Re:Europe (Score:2)
Create text message this is SMS
Create Picture Mail IIRC, this is MMS
Messages folders for SMS and MMS
Voicemail msgs. self-explanatory
E-mail Link to PCS Vision mail
I can get to the same menu by entering the main menu, and going down to "Messaging".
FWIW, my old Nokia 3588i (also Sprint) was the same way, except it didn't have the picture mail (no camera), and it didn't have the E-mail (no WAP support).
Somethi
Re:Europe (Score:2)
Re:That sucks, yeah, but look at the bright side! (Score:2)
Price is a major factor in third world countries, where your ~$30 flat rate plan is generally unaffordable by even white collar professionals. If the person you call also needs to pay for airtime, then calling them is even a form of imposition. (Many things are cheaper in the third world, but a lot of the equipment has to be imported, and telecoms carri
Re:That sucks, yeah, but look at the bright side! (Score:2, Insightful)
But you knew that anyway.
Actually, it may be a good thing. (Score:3, Interesting)