'Metal Gear' Symbian OS Trojan Disables Anti-Virus 197
Omniscientist writes "Just when you thought your Series 60 smartphones were safe, a trojan has surfaced with a two-pronged attack that also in turn disables any anti-virus protection available. Infosyncworld has news about a trojan masquerading itself as a port for the Metal Gear game that disables all anti-virus software on the phone and other necessary utilities like file managers. Also, it affects other phones nearby it via Bluetooth. This trojan has been dubbed 'Metal Gear.a,' quite aptly."
Oh Great.. (Score:5, Funny)
Well, I don't really have a cell phone, but if I did..I'd need tin foil for it.
Re:Oh Great.. (Score:2)
As I've not used the BT capabilities at all, does anyone know if I have to activate the BT on the phone, or is it in some sort of listen mode by default? And if so, is there a way to disable it until I actually need to use it?
Re:Oh Great.. (Score:5, Informative)
In other words, if you have a brain, you're safe. Watch out for bluesnarf attacks though, which can read all your data off your phone if you have an older bluetooth stack.
Re:Oh Great.. (Score:2)
On a related note, I need to get a Bluetooth USB dongle for my computer. Transferring things to my laptop over IR is so slow and always feels needlessly precarious.
Re:Oh Great.. (Score:2)
In other words, if you have a brain, you're safe...
We, the masses, have been doing just fine without one of those, thank you very much. We obviously welcome our virus writing overlords.
Re:Oh Great.. (Score:2)
;-) In hindsight, yeah I do.
more! (Score:4, Funny)
I hear its AMAZING... (Score:1, Funny)
I NEED SCISSORS!
61!!!
All I have to say (Score:2, Insightful)
This is what you get for making a phone "more than a phone".
Well that and price gouging. For example, a "quad-band GSM" phone often cells for $300 more than the average dual-band. However, going quad-band is mostly a small change in terms of the radio/hardware as it's just off by 50Mhz [e.g. the SWR won't be that high].
Hahahahahahaha
Tom
Re:All I have to say (Score:2)
-Jesse
Re:All I have to say (Score:4, Insightful)
You want a text editor? Buy a dedicated word processor.
You want to watch DVDs or other media? Buy a DVD player.
You want to send an e-mail? Buy a dedicated e-mailer.
So, based upon your way of thinking I'm assuming your above post was made via a WebTV or similar dedicated Internet-only terminal, right?
"Grownup" cellphones are needed too (Score:2)
I'm dreading the day when my four year old Motorola StarTAC dies.
Re:"Grownup" cellphones are needed too (Score:2)
Its not just my phone! (Score:5, Insightful)
I have to disagree. My cell phone is more than my phone. It is a device that I carry with me for many purposes. Sure I get calls on it, but that isn't the most important thing I use it for.
My main use for it turns out to be a clock that isn't uncomfortable to wear (I hate things on my wrist).
It also has some simple games good for keeping me entertained while waiting for the waiter to bring my order. (this is slashdot, of course I don't know any girls to eat with)
It is a handy kitchen timer that I can hear even when I'm at the other end of the house. The phone is on me, not the stove.
There is a useful calender that reminds me when important events come up. (A pain to enter them)
There is a calculator for times when I need to deal with more digits than I can remember at one time. I wish it has hex and graphics functions, but it works.
There is a camera attachment. Sure the pictures are poor, but it works, and I'm more likely to have this with me than a fancy camera.
All this, rolled into one tiny 1.5x4x.75 (inch) device.
Re:Its not just my phone! (Score:3, Insightful)
Here's what I use my phone for:
1) telephone (duh)
2) clock - always synced to universal time by network
3) calculator - in case I need to do a simple calculation
4) calendar/appointment minder
Everything else the companies are offering seem to suck, including web access, email, SMS, games, and especially cameras. The big problem with all of these is actually not the technology, but the exhorbitant cost.
Re:Its not just my phone! (Score:2)
And where can I find an affordable computer that fits in my pocket? My phone was free! (Okay, I signed a one year contract, but I was going to keep the same plan for a year anyway so that doesn't count)
Make sure this computer is small enough that I can use hold it to my ear like a phone, because I just want one gadget to carry around. Every simple computer (palm type device) I've seen is a lot larger than my phone.
I own a gameboy. I don't take it to work with me though, which means I don't have it
Re:All I have to say (Score:2)
Reminds me of a story: Two years ago, the Sprint salesmean was trying to sell me the latest Sanyo. This kid (probably still in college), went on and on about the cool features of ringtones and web access. Then, he said, that I "...could even take a picture of someone with the phone and link that picture to that persons phone number". In short, everytime said person called me, their picture would pop up on my phone.
I asked him "Instead of doin
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Re:All I have to say (Score:2)
Re:All I have to say (Score:2)
I just picked up the motorola v551 quad band GSM with built in video capture and playback, Bluetooth, etc, etc.
If I actually get the rebate I will have spent $50, if i don't I will have spent $100.
If I bought it on the street it's $150.
Where is the $300 more?? are they paying you to take the cheap phones now?
Re:All I have to say (Score:2, Insightful)
For example, I could see real use for things like PIM functionality backed by a remote server (PIM functionality alone is bad if the phone can die/break/be misplaced/stolen etc.), a couple gig of onboard flash data storage, speech to text to speech pr
Re:All I have to say (Score:2)
Unfortunately, Bluetooth was only an option on multi-function phones. I ended up getting an S-E T637, which includes a camera, Java, etc. At least the phone's form factor is still small enough that it's not uncomfortable to wear
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Re:All I have to say (Score:2)
I had the Motorola v220 [which is the only cheap quadband my provider carries]. It had a 640x480 camera [that's 0.3M pixel], 1.2MB of flash memory to store things in and a 22Khz DSP. It game with a "submarine" game which had as much gameplay appeal as playing jacks.
The pictures sucked ass. You couldn't get them off without either buying software from motorola a
Re:All I have to say (Score:1)
tombox ~ # whois iamaluser.com
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
No match for "IAMALUSER.COM".
Re:All I have to say (Score:2)
Yes, and, thanks to the AC's complaints about his name, I clicked on his link. Of course, since I am at work right now, that probably wasn't the smartest thing to do.
I'll just sit at my desk and wait for the network guys to show up, since I am sure that someone will figure out what I just clicked on.
there are others too (Score:1)
Re:there are others too (Score:2, Funny)
Re:there are others too (Score:3, Funny)
Sorry if it takes a little bit of work, but to find out this information you'll have to type in a few search terms - I'll help give you a start.
Try: "mobile phone" +"virus"
And that's why (Score:2, Redundant)
Re:And that's why (Score:1)
Still needs user interaction though... (Score:3, Insightful)
sometimes I don't like being right (Score:2)
People laughed at me when Bluetooth was first announced. I said I didn't want my cell phone or PDA being frisked by other units as I walked around.
I still refuse to carry any Bluetooth equipment. Who's laughing now?
And, more importantly, how long until a crooked cop uses such a vulnerability to plant evidence on your PDA [typepad.com]?
The Willie Nelson factor (Score:1, Funny)
I choose to steer clear of it due to its really idiotic name, anyway. It does not sound like high tech. It sounds like something you find in someone's mouth in the front row of a Willie Nelson concert.
Re:sometimes I don't like being right (Score:2)
I am (Score:4, Insightful)
I only turn mine on when I'm synching with something or using it as a data connection with my laptop.
Re:sometimes I don't like being right (Score:1)
I'm still laughing at you. Why some geeks choose to remain ignorant is beyond me. If you don't want to use it, fine. I like using my ericsson bluetooth headset on my nokia phone thankyouverymuch. If a crooked cop wants to plant evidence, they can just drop a kilo into my trunk. Jesus.
You dont have to say... (Score:2)
LEO? (Score:2)
Re:sometimes I don't like being right (Score:2)
Just wait (Score:2)
Metal Gear Symbian (Score:2)
Since no one has done it yet... (Score:5, Funny)
"Dude you're cell.. it's dying I think..."
"Snake? SNAKE?! SSSSSNNNNAAAAAKKKKEEEEEE!!!!!!"
Communicator (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Communicator (Score:4, Insightful)
Does anyone ever thing of hitting the off button on there cable/DSL modem?
If you use it, you leave it on. If you don't use it, you may not even know it is there.
Re:Communicator (Score:2)
Re:Communicator (Score:2)
Turning off bluetooth is a good idea if you know you're not gonna use it. Mod grandparent up.
Re:Communicator (Score:2)
Lets say the latest windows worm has been released. I am not yet infected. I am not going to shut off my cable modem just because there is a worm on the internet that I have not contracted.
As for turning off bluetooth if I'm not gonna use it. I highly doubt a lot of these people that aren't using bluetooth even know that they have bluetooth in their phones, much less what it is. And before saying anything about it being in the manual, How many people actually read the entire
Re:Communicator (Score:2)
Funny thing (Score:2, Funny)
Stop the press! (Score:3, Insightful)
The phone have started to move! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The phone have started to move! (Score:1, Funny)
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Infection (Score:2)
Infect their own phone, that infects every cell tower it cells to, and that tower infects every cell phone it can see, etc.
I'd make the payload somthing to either disable the ringer, or play some annoying loud-ass tone for hours.
Re:Infection (Score:2)
I think I have this one (Score:1, Redundant)
MG (Score:5, Funny)
woo hoo (Score:2)
I'm getting around these problems. (Score:2)
Virus code name...Metal Gear?!? (Score:3, Funny)
Hmmm, Good idea though (Score:2)
And of course let's not forget being able to sit on a bus and make every other passenger listen to Liquid scream "SNAAAAAKE! PREPARE TO DIE, MY BROTHEEEERRR!!!!"
Personally, if I were a virus writer... (Score:3, Interesting)
That's why if I were to actually go about writing a virus, it would not actually disable any existing antivirus software at all, but would make suitable patches to the most common ones so that my virus would simply not be detected by it, thereby convincing most people into naively believing that their antivirus software is running as expected during what is actually the virus's dormancy period.
Why nobody else has tried this is beyond me.
Does the fact that I would even think of something like this make me a bad person?
Re:Personally, if I were a virus writer... (Score:3, Funny)
Heh... how do you know they haven't?
Re:Personally, if I were a virus writer... (Score:2)
To qualify as truly perfect, it has to be so completely invisible that nobody has any realy way to find out that it's on their system until it's too late, the idea being that you have a dormancy period long enough to allow it to propogate and on a certain date at a certain time (UTC), the virus does its dastardly deeds.
Ha ha slackers get pwn3d! (Score:3, Funny)
I swear it's slackers like you that will lead to more ridiculous regulations.
my ... phone? (Score:2)
Anti-virus software means it wasn't safe (Score:5, Insightful)
If the things need anti-virus software, they were never safe to begin with.
Re:Anti-virus software means it wasn't safe (Score:2)
Do you use Symbian instead of Pocket PC? Beware. (Score:2)
I don't suppose there's a Limited User mode for a phone, is there?
Seriously (Score:2, Insightful)
My nokia 6600 is awesome, gets great battery life, and reminds me when i am supposed to be places. Bluetooth lets me transfer information from my laptop to it, such as contact and calendar events.
It has revolutionized the
Is Symbian a Ubiquitous Platform? (Score:2)
Is there something really valuable to be gained by hacking Symbian phones? Some financial motive that gets people motivated to hack. Or is it just an insecure OS easily hacked?
batten down the hatches (Score:2)
So is this like... (Score:2)
And is there a Liquid Worm out there, lurking?
(and no I am not a fanboy; those games *SUCK* big balls: I always though the solid and liquid snake names were some obscure Japanese fecal-matter reference).
"Metal Gear.a"? (Score:2)
Re:And this is unexpected? (Score:2)
Re:And this is unexpected? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:And this is unexpected? (Score:2)
Nokia, IBM, Ericsson, Intel, and Toshiba were the founding members in 1998. Today there are thousands of members, but note that on the board of directors [bluetooth.com] section of the webpage
Re:We're surprised? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:We're surprised? (Score:2)
Uh, why would you need ANY of those things?
On second thought, I will give you the laptop.. I am a consultant. I feel naked unless I am carrying my laptop.
Re:We're surprised? (Score:2)
Re:We're surprised? (Score:2)
Re:We're surprised? (Score:2)
Re:We're surprised? (Score:2)
Who the hell needs a swiss army knife of all that junk anyways...
Isn't that kind of like asking who needs a Swiss Army knife?
Re:kiss (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:But really (Score:2)
OSS shortcoming: who does the boring stuff? (Score:3, Insightful)
The problem is that much of what needs to be done is boring and/or unchallenging. Some folks program because they like to solve problems, the "journey", not because they have a strong commitment to a project, the "destination". In the OSS world there are lots of people who would like to work on the interesting things and if they cannot they are more likely to n
Re:OSS shortcoming: who does the boring stuff? (Score:2)
Mayb
Another OSS Shortcoming: Expecting others to pay (Score:2)
**We** should be contributing to various organizations. As I said in the other post, less "free beer", consider it tipping the waitress/bartender. I guess this is the other OSS shortcoming, too many people expect others (government, companies) to pay. Few people donate their own time or money (buy CDs from org rather than download ISO, etc.) but they have lots of suggestions on
Re:Another OSS Shortcoming: Expecting others to pa (Score:2)
Re:Another OSS Shortcoming: Expecting others to pa (Score:2)
It is not government's role to take down high profit companies, and it is not only the company shareholders that would be in trouble, it is the employees who would be in trouble. The executives and such have their golden parachutes, the little guys get screwed. Things are far more complica
Re:Another OSS Shortcoming: Expecting others to pa (Score:2)
You're missing something: the world has countries other than the USA, and it's not the job of other countries' governments to enrich companies in the USA.
If I were a taxpayer in Latvia, I would absolutely want my government to seed a domestic software industry rather than send money to some big corporation in the USA. The German
Re:Another OSS Shortcoming: Expecting others to pa (Score:2)
I have missed nothing. You are restating my opening comment: "The German decision may be viewed as a jobs program, or possibly seeding a domestic software industry."
Here in the USA, the government is indeed corrupt and does everything it can to give handouts to the rich and doesn't bother saving money or supporting local industries. However, not all
Re:Heh! (Score:2)
Well, I'm not a fan of fancy phones. But if they include that picture as one of the features, they just sold me.
Re:Heh! (Score:2)
My phone is hooked up via bluetooth to my headset, pda, and laptop. Depending on where I am at any one time, incoming calls are routed to the headset (if I want), show up on the screen with the matching profile plucked from the laptop's address book (if I want), or SMS's are sent back and forth between the PDA or laptop (i
Re:Heh! (Score:2)
Text messaging is good because I like to avoid botheri
Re:Heh! (Score:2)
Plus you could use the infrared device for transfering info between phones (contact info) but Bluetooth obviously can do that also.
Re:Heh! (Score:2)
http://www.psiloc.com/index.html?action=ShowArtic
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Re:Anti-Virus on Sybian? (Score:2)