It's not quite virtue signalling (at least it doesn't have to be... The people who came up with it- who knows. They very well could have been)
One of the problems with FLoC is that it can pinhole you into a stereotype of you.
Systemic pressures toward stereotypes are one of the things making change hard.
I don't see how that's restricted to the groups they picked out; it's a universal problem.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this isn't an "All Lives Matter" thing.
The effects of systemic stereotype pressures are quantifiable among... let's call them cohorts for the sake of synchronizing terminology with FLoC.
While the average person may also suffer this effect as well, it's much less quantifiable than recognized protected classes. Which is of course why they are protected classes.
The think about "the average person" is that it's a chimera that squeezes many people from different backgrounds and social classes into a bag marked "Not obviously classifiable by looking at them so I don't need to care about their problems".
The think about "the average person" is that it's a chimera that squeezes many people from different backgrounds and social classes into a bag marked "Not obviously classifiable by looking at them so I don't need to care about their problems".
It's not that their problems aren't cared about. It's that they're, as a population doing as well as the statistics suggest.
They may find it unfair that other people feel "catered" to, but that's only because they're blind to the advantages they already have (and take advantage of, statistically speaking)
If you're trying to suggest that we need to start enacting policy to account for every individual person, I'd love to hear how we do that.
They may find it unfair that other people feel "catered" to, but that's only because they're blind to the advantages they already have (and take advantage of, statistically speaking)
The advantages you assume they have because of their skin colour?
The advantages you assume they have because of their skin colour?
There are many studies advantages to having white skin color in American society.
This isn't an assumption. No matter how you swing it, no matter what individual differences exist, you have advantages as a caucasian vs. certain other ethnicities in the US.
This exists for people who may be homosexual or sexually different as well.
When you use words like "assume", it leads one to conclude you're a troll. Some reading material for you. [wikipedia.org]
The advantages you assume they have because of their skin colour?
There are many studies advantages to having white skin color in American society.
This isn't an assumption. No matter how you swing it, no matter what individual differences exist, you have advantages as a caucasian vs. certain other ethnicities in the US.
This exists for people who may be homosexual or sexually different as well.
When you use words like "assume", it leads one to conclude you're a troll.
Yes. Calling anyone who recognizes racism a racist. Super clever.
You fucks never were very smart.
Your whole thread of argument has been textbook racism - you're rating individuals' value using a classification based on skin colour. Grandmother been shot dead? No problem - you're white! Driven out of your home because of your religion? No problem - you're white! etc.
Skin colour is irrelevant. You end discrimination by not discriminating.
You need to look in the mirror and ask yourself "when did I become a racist?". I'm sure it was by accident, but it's still where you've ended up.
Your whole thread of argument has been textbook racism
Sure hasn't.
You're redefining that word to mean something it does not. By your definition, even acknowledging that one has color is racist.
Racism (n):
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
Try again, Tucker.
You're rating individuals' value using a classification based on skin colour.
I did no such thing.
Feel free to point out where I did though. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Grandmother been shot dead? No problem - you're white!
Driven out of your home because of your religion? No problem - you're white!
As I suspected. This *is* some "All Lives Matter" drivel
We don't know who it was that discovered water, but we're pretty sure
that it wasn't a fish.
-- Marshall McLuhan
Wow (Score:4, Insightful)
That's a bit up themselves.
I mean, good that they're doing it but they're going to sprain something with all that virtue signalling.
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One of the problems with FLoC is that it can pinhole you into a stereotype of you.
Systemic pressures toward stereotypes are one of the things making change hard.
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It's not quite virtue signalling (at least it doesn't have to be... The people who came up with it- who knows. They very well could have been)
One of the problems with FLoC is that it can pinhole you into a stereotype of you.
Systemic pressures toward stereotypes are one of the things making change hard.
I don't see how that's restricted to the groups they picked out; it's a universal problem.
Re:Wow (Score:1)
I don't see how that's restricted to the groups they picked out; it's a universal problem.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this isn't an "All Lives Matter" thing.
The effects of systemic stereotype pressures are quantifiable among... let's call them cohorts for the sake of synchronizing terminology with FLoC.
While the average person may also suffer this effect as well, it's much less quantifiable than recognized protected classes. Which is of course why they are protected classes.
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The think about "the average person" is that it's a chimera that squeezes many people from different backgrounds and social classes into a bag marked "Not obviously classifiable by looking at them so I don't need to care about their problems".
I don't know. Maybe it's an American thing.
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The think about "the average person" is that it's a chimera that squeezes many people from different backgrounds and social classes into a bag marked "Not obviously classifiable by looking at them so I don't need to care about their problems".
It's not that their problems aren't cared about. It's that they're, as a population doing as well as the statistics suggest.
They may find it unfair that other people feel "catered" to, but that's only because they're blind to the advantages they already have (and take advantage of, statistically speaking)
If you're trying to suggest that we need to start enacting policy to account for every individual person, I'd love to hear how we do that.
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They may find it unfair that other people feel "catered" to, but that's only because they're blind to the advantages they already have (and take advantage of, statistically speaking)
The advantages you assume they have because of their skin colour?
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The advantages you assume they have because of their skin colour?
There are many studies advantages to having white skin color in American society.
This isn't an assumption. No matter how you swing it, no matter what individual differences exist, you have advantages as a caucasian vs. certain other ethnicities in the US.
This exists for people who may be homosexual or sexually different as well.
When you use words like "assume", it leads one to conclude you're a troll.
Some reading material for you. [wikipedia.org]
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The advantages you assume they have because of their skin colour?
There are many studies advantages to having white skin color in American society.
This isn't an assumption. No matter how you swing it, no matter what individual differences exist, you have advantages as a caucasian vs. certain other ethnicities in the US.
This exists for people who may be homosexual or sexually different as well.
When you use words like "assume", it leads one to conclude you're a troll.
Some reading material for you. [wikipedia.org]
Thanks. I know racism when I see it just fine.
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Yes. Calling anyone who recognizes racism a racist. Super clever.
You fucks never were very smart.
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Hahaha,
Yes. Calling anyone who recognizes racism a racist. Super clever.
You fucks never were very smart.
Your whole thread of argument has been textbook racism - you're rating individuals' value using a classification based on skin colour. Grandmother been shot dead? No problem - you're white! Driven out of your home because of your religion? No problem - you're white! etc.
Skin colour is irrelevant. You end discrimination by not discriminating.
You need to look in the mirror and ask yourself "when did I become a racist?". I'm sure it was by accident, but it's still where you've ended up.
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Your whole thread of argument has been textbook racism
Sure hasn't.
You're redefining that word to mean something it does not. By your definition, even acknowledging that one has color is racist.
Racism (n):
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
Try again, Tucker.
You're rating individuals' value using a classification based on skin colour.
I did no such thing.
Feel free to point out where I did though. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Grandmother been shot dead? No problem - you're white!
Driven out of your home because of your religion? No problem - you're white!
As I suspected. This *is* some "All Lives Matter" drivel