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Krebs Hacker Unmasked, Hit Ars and Wired's Honan 164

altjira writes "Brian Krebs, hot on the tail of the hacker who DDOS his site and SWATted his home, followed up on a tip, found the dox, called and then outed his hacker. Turns out it may have been the same guy who hit Wired's Mat Honan and Ars Technica." The attacker is ... a 20 year old guy who apparently has too much time on his hands, and was surprisingly careless with his personal information for someone exploiting the personal information of others.
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Krebs Hacker Unmasked, Hit Ars and Wired's Honan

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  • by hduff ( 570443 ) <hoytduff @ g m a i l .com> on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @08:56AM (#43222753) Homepage Journal

    Most crimes are solved because the criminal is careless or stupid or both.

  • Re:SWATting (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:11AM (#43222847)

    Given the propensity of the American police responding to that sort of call to shoot first and possibly get round to asking questions a bit later on, SWATting somebody should be charged as attempted murder

    No, the policemen doing the shooting before asking questions should be charged with attempted murder.

    In the same way that, if I told a bully someone insulted him behind his back, and he went and punched that guy, the bully would be charged.

  • by slashmydots ( 2189826 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:13AM (#43222859)
    Most hackers especially are careless, stupid, and usually both. They think they're so invincible and cool and above security that they don't even take basic precautions. They think they have some kind of magical aura from being so tech savvy that protects them from "lesser" beings. Lol, good luck with that.
  • by SirGarlon ( 845873 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:19AM (#43222927)

    I considered crime as a career option when I was young, and decided that it was for losers. Concealing repeated crime would require so much hard work and attention to detail, that anyone qualified to do it is also qualified for a rather high-paying job.

    If you think about it, the saying "crime doesn't pay" is just another way of saying the labor market works.

  • by roman_mir ( 125474 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:22AM (#43222961) Homepage Journal

    This story is still in progress, but it's clear that this "Phobia" punk is intelligent enough in ways that really don't matter much and too stupid in ways that actually do matter. His father should have figured out what the son was doing a while ago, as his son is in the crime scene, stealing or helping to steal and use credit cards, SSNs, etc., breaking into private people's accounts and messing with them, paying for DDOS attacks against websites and sending SWAT teams to people's homes, so that somebody could actually get shot. This is all a punk move, what this idiot needs is about 3 years of labour camp, so that he'd at least repay some of the damage and 10 minutes of flogging on monthly basis, so that what could not be peacefully inserted into his brain would be painfully inserted into his back.

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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:24AM (#43222975)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by the eric conspiracy ( 20178 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @09:38AM (#43223075)

    More likely the DOJ will have him in Federal PoundYourAss Prison for 30 years.

  • by Inda ( 580031 ) <slash.20.inda@spamgourmet.com> on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @10:01AM (#43223307) Journal
    Most crimes are solved because people talk. Loose lips sink ships, and all that stuff.

    People in the story are more than willing to talk. It's a bit sad.
  • by roman_mir ( 125474 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @10:02AM (#43223311) Homepage Journal

    The dumbest thing was to talk but also to involve cops with the SWAT thing. If he just kept to online stealing and harassment this wouldn't be as bad as the SWAT thing, now the cops have a personal issue as well with him. The way he just blurted everything out showed how really 'smart' he is.

  • Re:SWATting (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @10:17AM (#43223473)

    While I agree it should be a crime of some sort, the person pulling the trigger should be the one charged with murder.

    You're right. If, say, the person being SWAT'ed pulls a gun in self defense, because all he knows is his house is being invaded, and a police officer sees it and fires, as they are trained to do when seeing a lethal threat, that is TOTALLY murder.

    More accurately, I think SWATing somebody should be negligent homicide if somebody dies, reckless endangerment if (as usually happens) nobody is hurt.

  • by slashmydots ( 2189826 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @10:27AM (#43223583)
    No, I've seen too many Slashdot articles and security conventions. Trust me, it's reality. In fact, what planet are you watching movies on? Because on Earth they make hacker looks cool. In reality, they're immature and have no self esteem so they can never resist bragging online about their exploits. That's actually usually half the reason they did it.
  • Re:SWATting (Score:3, Insightful)

    by The Grim Reefer ( 1162755 ) on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @10:55AM (#43223925)

    Given the propensity of the American police responding to that sort of call to shoot first and possibly get round to asking questions a bit later on, SWATting somebody should be charged as attempted murder

    While I understand your sentiment, I have to disagree with you. In cases like "SWATting" these officers have been called to a scene where the assumption is that there is an armed person who has already killed a loved on and is emotionally distraught. As most law enforcement officers will tell you, domestic disturbances are some of the most unpredictable calls to go to. So a call like this would be about as scary as most police will ever get.

    Granted, there are some pretty bad police officers out there. But there are a lot more really good ones. It's just that nobody seems to pay attention to them, except on rare occasions. Go check to see how much they get paid. It's pretty poorly in most cases. The average patrolman's salary is just over $50K [salary.com] An entry level application engineer makes a little over $54K [salary.com]. Barring natural disasters, a bad day at work for someone in IT is to have to work late. How much fun do you think it is to investigate a murder scene? Or a fatal car crash with children involved? For a patrolman a bad day could include coming home in a bag. In most professions a mistake will cost the company money. For an officer it could be someones life, or their own.

    How would you handle call like this? Would you allow yourself to get shot prior to opening fire? Have you ever been shot at? Judging a situation after the fact from your nice comfy chair is just a little bit different than being an active participant.

    It's funny that we will spend money to go see a movie and cheer on the cop who shoots the bad guy. But in 99.9% of the times you see this in movies, the "good guy" would be criminally charged for acting the way they do. But when a cop shoots someone who feigns having a gun and does not respond to commands to submit we through a fit. The asshole that called this in is the one at fault here for abusing the system that is in place to protect us.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @11:36AM (#43224305)
    I doubt this was the first thing he did wrong. I bet it escalated from somewhere.

    In order to keep him from getting to this point, you employ the same simple rules of parenting employed on everyone else who isn't a constant fuck-up:

    1. Scold him harshly.
    2. If that doesn't work, or if the infraction is grave enough, beat the shit out of him.
    3. Repeat as needed.

    Worked for me. I had wooden spoons snapped over my ass and got to taste the belt buckle once or twice. There's a reason why the old-school punishments lasted so long.
  • Re:SWATting (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 20, 2013 @01:17PM (#43225309)

    Sigh... becoming a police officer is a CHOICE. Investigating murder scenes, cleaning up car crashes, and keeping angry wives and husbands from killing each other is part of the job. The people who become police officers CHOOSE to deal with these and other stressful situations, they CHOOSE to (occasionally) risk their lives. CHOOSING to put yourself in the line of fire is no excuse to trample on the rights of the people you're supposed to protect. If they want a bigger paycheck with safer working conditions, they can find different jobs.

    I've seen this attitude plenty of times, where people seem to want to excuse the terrible behavior and the military-style tactics of police because "the poor dears have a tough job without much pay, cut them some slack." Well, NO! As people to whom the rest of us have given the right to use lethal force and invade and seize private property, the police should be held to a much higher standard, and they should be trained to understand that they work for us, not the other way around.

    The bad apples in the police forces may very well be in the minority, I don't know. I've known cops who are friendly and cops who are psychopaths or arrogant jerks. For example, I knew a guy who worked as a juvenile prison guard (while studying to become a full-fledged cop) and bragged about "putting the smackdown" on teenagers who ran their mouths.

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