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Orome1 writes "Microsoft today announced the global availability of Windows 8. Beginning Friday, Oct. 26, consumers and businesses worldwide will be able to experience all that Windows 8 has to offer, including a new user interface and a wide range of applications with the grand opening of the Windows Store. Launching at the same time is a new member of the Windows family — Windows RT — designed for ARM-based tablets and available pre-installed on new devices. In addition to Microsoft Office 2013, Windows RT is designed exclusively for apps in the new Windows Store. In addition to the range of new Windows-based devices available, consumers can also upgrade their existing PCs. Through the end of January, consumers currently running PCs with Windows XP, Windows Vista or Windows 7 are qualified to download an upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for an estimated retail price of US$39.99." Also at Slash Cloud, where Nick Kolakowski writes: "If the operating system and its associated hardware capture the attention (and dollars) of mobile-device users, Microsoft will have successfully expanded the Windows brand to a new and rapidly growing market segment. But if it fails, and Apple and Google continue to rule the mobility space, then Microsoft is left with few alternatives."
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  • First post! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:38PM (#41767713)

    Posted using Windows XP Technology

    • by ZiakII (829432) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:45PM (#41767837)
      Posted using Windows XP Technology

      See if you were on Windows 8! Your computer would of ran faster and you would of gotten that first post!
      • by dstyle5 (702493) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:55PM (#41767999)
        Especially with the Slashdot Windows 8 app consuming your entire 24" display!
        • by robthebloke (1308483) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @01:07PM (#41768177)
          So what you're saying is that it's worth me upgrading from my 14" CRT and windows 95? I do hope they've made clippy into a fullscreen app. I still can't fathom how to use these 'PC' things without its insightful guidance.....
          • by linebackn (131821) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @01:50PM (#41768863)

            > So what you're saying is that it's worth me upgrading from my 14" CRT and windows 95?

            A 14" CRT would work great with Windows 8's metro apps. That is about the screen size it was designed for. Your fancy 40" monitor is obsolete now as you must replace it with something SMALLER.

            BTW, happily posted with:
            Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.8.1.25pre) Gecko/20110912 SeaMonkey/1.1.20pre

        • Re:First post! (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Vanderhoth (1582661) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @01:13PM (#41768281)
          I'm just glad the first post wasn't another of those "I've been using Windows 8 for x months now and it's so fantastic I've constantly jizzed all over my keyboard and am going to say all kinds of untrue things about how it's soo much better that that linuz and Mac crud blah blah blah".

          I don't think they realize all they're doing is making it hard to determine if someone is in fact using windows 8 and is happy with it and what the positive features are or if all positive post concerning it are just paid shrills out there to spread FUD. There frick'n everywhere any forum concerning Win8 has a massive log of people obviously just trying to make sure anything negative about windows is pushed right off the map. And yes I had considered that maybe it's because it's just a good OS, then I remember using the developers preview and watching all the "how windows will succeed" videos thinking, "Are they bat shit crazy!!!?"
          • by jmerlin (1010641)
            I haven't used Windows 8, but I do have to admit that I like the simplicity in the Metro UI look/feel. Not necessarily how the UI is functionally constructed in Windows 8, but for a web interface, it's pretty solid IMO. The Windows 8 standalone apps I've used on Windows 7 have been pretty good. I suppose if it was just Windows 7 with less focus on Aero and more focus on Metro-style minimalistic display, I'd be quite happy (none of this full-screen metro nonsense). When I install Windows 7 on my beastly
  • Why? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sdo1 (213835) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:39PM (#41767735) Journal

    Confession: I'm a Windows/PC user. Win 7 works fine for me. I use it at work. I use it a home. I can run pretty much anything I want on it. It's stable and mostly trouble free for me.

    I've yet to see a single compelling reason to move to Windows 8 for desktop/laptop. Maybe it's OK for tablets? I don't know... I use Android and I'm happy with that. Is there *any* "ohhh... gotta have that" feature in Windows 8? Looks like a usability step backwards from Windows 7 to me. Am I missing something?

    -S

    • Not really (Score:5, Informative)

      by Sycraft-fu (314770) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:52PM (#41767945)

      It is a better OS from a technical standpoint. It is faster (Cakewalk found it sped up Sonar X1 in all heavy load cases) and some of the tools like the task manager are much better. However it isn't major.

      On the down side its UI is ugly, and the metro stuff is crap. You don't have to use the metro stuff. Start 8 or Classic Shell will get you a real start menu and you can then ignore the tablet crap.

      I'm fine with it, I use it at work since Windows support is my profession and I need to be familiar with it and it works well. However it is not a major update. Internally it calls itself Windows NT 6.2, 7 being NT 6.1. It is improved some, uglied up some, and has tablet bits it tries to shove down your throat.

      In general I would say don't worry about it. If you've a reason to get it or a system comes with it, it'll work fine. You'll want to get a start menu replacer but it'll be fine after that. However I wouldn't rush out and upgrade. 7 works fine and 8 really does have an ugly UI.

      • Re:Not really (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Cinder6 (894572) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @01:19PM (#41768377)

        For myself, I actually vastly prefer the new start screen over the old menu. It's more customizable, with more space for icons, and has a much faster and more intuitive universal search feature than Windows 7. It's enough for me to be willing to pay $39 for an upgrade. On the other hand, Metro is dumb on a desktop monitor, but at least you aren't forced to use it--for now. I'm worried that new apps will come out that will use Metro and only Metro. I like using the newest version of things in general, but that alone would be reason enough not to upgrade in that hypothetical case.

    • it has better multi core use and other under the hood speed ups.

      To bad it's build for touch and smaller screen laptops / tables.

      And desktop mode needs to have a start menu and be able to run metro apps in a window.

    • Re:Why? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by perpenso (1613749) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:57PM (#41768041)

      Am I missing something?

      Given that people general prefer Windows because they already know how to use it and their existing software already runs on it ... I'm no so sure that this "re-imagining windows" idea is such a good idea.

      Then again ... Microsoft may be doing something smart, avoiding a trap that many large established companies fall in to. Large established companies tend to innovate less and more commonly merely offer what customers ask for and/or incremental improvements. This has historically allowed small innovative companies to come in with radically different things and get a foothold in the market, maybe even disrupt the market.

      Plus, isn't there an option to switch the UI to Windows 7 style? If so then the risk to Microsoft may be somewhat low. IF it is true that Windows 8 uses less memory and runs fewer processes/services then maybe a switch would be a good idea even when switching to the Windows 7 style interface.

      • by jader3rd (2222716)

        Plus, isn't there an option to switch the UI to Windows 7 style?

        That depends on how stringent you want to be with the definition of style. There's no option to revert to a full Win 7 experience, but it's similar enough that anyone whose upset about the delta will get over it once they realize there's no more point in them expending energy to be upset about it anymore. On all Win 8 computer the primary "app" is the desktop. The desktop does look a little different (no rounded corners, no glass, Ribbon in Explorer), but for all intents and purposes it functions identicall

        • Its a shame Microsoft decided to drop Aero Glass and its usability enhancements like Aero Peek.
          • It *would* be a shame, but they didn't, so that's irrelevant. Aero Peek, Aero Snap, Aero Shake, live thumbnails in Windows Flip (Alt+Tab), and limited use of transparency (the taskbar and the desktop overlays are still slightly transparent) are still present. The only Aero features that are gone are window border transparency (which I do miss) and Flip3D (which I don't). The keyboard shortcut of Win+Tab now switches among "Metro" apps and the desktop (as a whole), while Alt+Tab still switches among all open

      • by Bigbutt (65939)

        Last I heard, no option to switch to a different UI outside of a third party.

        [John]

    • Re:Why? (Score:4, Informative)

      by Missing.Matter (1845576) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:58PM (#41768047)

      I've yet to see a single compelling reason to move to Windows 8 for desktop/laptop.

      There probably isn't a single "killer feature" that can get you to move, but rarely is there ever such a thing. I use Windows 8 on my laptop and desktop, and find myself in desktop mode 99% of the time.I personally don't mind the metro interface, I actually like some of the apps, and I especially don't miss the start menu (never used it in Windows 7 TBH).

      However, there are various niceities I enjoy in Windows 8 including the multi-monitor improvements, fast boot time (~8 seconds on my Desktop), explorer enhancements (thank god the up directory button is back), vastly improved task manager (especially love the detailed performance graphs and startup options right there, instead of in msconfig.exe), improved copy dialogue, etc.

      On the other hand, you can get many of the improvements by bolting add-ons to Windows 7, I suppose. They probably won't be as nicely integrated, but they will work. At any rate, I'm happy with Windows 8 on my laptop, tablet, and desktop. I don't find the Metro interface any less usable with a mouse and keyboard, especially with the plethora of shortcuts for each.

      • However, there are various niceities I enjoy in Windows 8 including the multi-monitor improvements

        I've heard that phrase several times, but I don't think I've seen anyone explain just what these "multi-monitor improvements" are; for example, my Win7 box handles multiple monitors just fine.

        Care to elaborate?

      • by jader3rd (2222716)

        thank god the up directory button is back

        What's the great about the up button? I find it annoying and something that takes up screen real estate?

        • I'm sure that there is some setting that would fix this for me, but I really dislike the feeling of Windows 7 with regard to traversing directories and library management.

          1. I like my address bar on my windows to show the old style "C:/folder/1/2/3/another/andthefile.file"
          2. The behavior of the 'back' button is different than the 'up' button.

          Sometimes what is 'back' is NOT one level up in the directory structure. I didn't like having to click on the weird folder list thing that the address bar became. I

    • by jader3rd (2222716)

      Looks like a usability step backwards from Windows 7 to me. Am I missing something?

      Perhaps looks can be deceiving...

      • by dstyle5 (702493)
        In this case, nope. Looks are bang on. I've used 2 preview versions and am currently running RTM and the usability in all 3 is step backwards from 7. Its a tablet UI slapped on top of a Windows desktop UI, with little integration between the two.
    • by jj00 (599158)
      I feel I'm in the same boat as you (home/work Windows user, tablet owner), but I do feel there is a need to go this direction:

      - There are some dedicated apps for tablets I often wish I had on my laptop. It wouldn't be hard to get these apps on Windows, there is just a lack of a built-in app store model to make it easy. Plus making app install/uninstall easier on a computer is a good thing (not sure if this will be the case).
      - When using my tablet at home I often finding myself wishing I had a keyboard,
    • If you are happy with Windows 7, Stay on it.

      I upgraded because my Laptop has a multi-touch display on it and windows 8 makes using the Laptop much easier. If I had a normal laptop or a desktop, I wouldn't want to upgrade now anyways.
      Down the road if there are some good Metro apps out there... Perhaps. But it is just Windows 7 with a Touch Friendly UI.

    • Storage Spaces sounds interesting to me. Basically, you can create a pool of disks and by using mirroring or parity you can have redundancy. The mirroring allows data to be backed up to 1 or more drives. The parity part is most interesting to me, because it sounds similar to Unraid for those that have heard of that. Could be nice to get extra storage space that is portable to any computer as long as it has Windows 8. (Not held down by certain hardware such as motherboard raid controller.) Here is the articl [msdn.com]
    • by fm6 (162816)

      What you're missing is that this isn't about getting people to run out and upgrade to 8, Some people will do that (mostly developers) but most copies of Windows are sold bundled with a PC. So 8 is not being marketed to you, it's being marketed to OEMs. How many OEMs will bite?

      Maybe we'll see a lot of Windows-based tablets, which is the hardware platform the new GUI is designed for. But even if that happens, the dominant workaday PC will remain the desktop and laptop. I predict that few of these will be sold

    • by McGruber (1417641)

      Am I missing something?

      Microsoft needs your money.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:40PM (#41767751)

    something something linux something something it works for me something something micro$oft tax something something free beer something something

  • If I don't like 8 (Score:4, Interesting)

    by suprcvic (684521) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:41PM (#41767767)
    Can I reinstall 7 or does upgrading invalidate my Windows 7 key?
    • by rvw (755107)

      Can I reinstall 7 or does upgrading invalidate my Windows 7 key?

      If 8 fails, you get Windows , and that is an endless loop. Be warned!

    • by couchslug (175151)

      One might download a factory ISO then use an activator with an OEM serial list.

      It's faster than a conventional activation and doesn't require connection to the internet.

  • by Severus Snape (2376318) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:46PM (#41767861)
    The wall is a little steep, I'm sure you can all make it though. The grass is greener on the other side, honest.
    • The wall is a little steep, I'm sure you can all make it though. The grass is greener on the other side, honest.

      Someone who betrays Dumbledore do not deserve my trust.

      • by Noughmad (1044096)

        Snape never betrayed Dumbledore. Yes, I've heard there are people wrong on the internet, but not on Slashdot!

        • In fact Snape was ordered by Dumbledore to betray Dumbledore. Anyway, Snape had a curse that would have killed him had he not followed through. Snape protected Harry Potter because he loved Harry's mother Lilly, but treated Harry poorly because Harry reminded Snape of Harry's father James. There! We got Harry Potter out of our system!

          My daughter got me started with those books....

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Dear windows 8 user,

      I already have a mobile phone, I don't need one on my desktop. Honest.

    • For a lot of people, there won't be any green grass on the other side because the learning curve is too steep and they'll switch to Mac.

      Or even just an iPad. If all you do is email, instant messaging and Facebook, why the hell would you need a full-fledged OS anyway?

    • What if Im actually HAPPY where I am, and dont WANT to like it?

      Cant I just be stubborn, and be left alone?

  • by MeNeXT (200840) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:47PM (#41767873)

    Wow! What a surprise. up until yesterday there was absolutely no mention of this Windows 8 version that you are talking about. Who would have thought that Microsoft would develop a whole OS so secretly.

    Do we need to keep this up. Let it come out already and see. This has been in the news for sooooo long now that it's probably going to be overshadowed by Windows 9 on Monday.

  • by concealment (2447304) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @12:48PM (#41767883) Homepage Journal

    ...for running Linux in a virtual machine.

    At this point my setup depends heavily on virtualization.

    I need to run the desktop software for which Windows is famous, and prefer the Windows "everything has a device driver" model to fiddling with configuration files.

    But when it comes to getting stuff done, it's time to drop into the virtual machine where everything is configured as I'm used to, and I have all the tools built-in that I need to get the job done.

    Microsoft could perhaps sway me by making SSH, an advanced command parser, etc. available for Windows, but for now I just delegate that to Linux, although "technically" my home OS is Windows.

    Did you hear that, Redmond? * shakes floppy at empty sky *

    • by wed128 (722152)

      They don't really care about your use case. they got your dollar.

    • by VGPowerlord (621254) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @01:09PM (#41768229)

      Microsoft could perhaps sway me by making ... an advanced command parser... available for Windows

      Wasn't that the entire point of PowerShell? Granted, I've never used it...

    • You're probably already aware of Client Hyper-V, but since you didn't mention it, I'll drop a mention here; not only isn Win8 lighter weight than previous versions (making it a good choice for a host OS), it also includes a seriously excellent hypervisor-based virtualization system.

      As for *nix tools, there's things like Cygwin, and even Interix (full POSIX environment running on top of the NT kernel, but not through win32). Sadly, Interix appears to be deprecated; it's still possible to use it in Win8 but it may be gone in Win9. I've been using Interix bash as my primary command line on Windows since 2006. It also offers ssh (both client and server), incidentally (although you have to install them it a Microsoft-funded repository rather than having it in the base install).

      As for "advanced command parser", have you looked at Powershell? Included in all recent versions of Windows, and in some ways much more powerful than *nix shells. Commands consume and produce, and pipes pass, objects. These objects are sometimes just strings (especially if you pipe in text), but are often more complex data which are simply presented in text form when the end of the pipe is reached. PS also supports aliases (and comes pre-configured with a bunch of *nix-like ones), command completion, scripting, and so on. Additionally, because it's built on top of .NET, you can actually create .NET objects and invoke methods on them in your scripts, which is handy if you're familiar with the framework. It's basically .NETscript.

  • by JBMcB (73720) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @01:05PM (#41768153)

    Looks like hardware drivers are being updated for Windows 8 support (WDDM 1.2 / DXGI 1.2 / etc). This means, even if you really want to upgrade, wait at least a few months. All the problems I had (and most people I know) going from XP to 7 were driver related. New driver models = new drivers = buggy drivers = unstable machine = let someone else be the beta tester.

  • Already had the first two laptops with 8 this week, and both of them got the ClassicShell treatment after realising the amount of support calls we'd get if the users get their hands on the new interface.
  • Sell me Windows 7 for forty bucks instead, and you've got a deal.

    Why would I want Windows 8?

  • If you took all of the smiles Windows created and laid them end to end, they would reach all the way to the galaxy and fill up the black hole in space.

  • by Toreo asesino (951231) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @01:16PM (#41768343) Journal

    I'll get this in before the hundreds of "omg don't want" posts. Windows 8 is significantly different from previous versions, not just for the interface which takes some initial getting used to (although many, predictably, end up warming to it - http://www.zdnet.com/dont-hate-windows-8-7000006297/ [zdnet.com]).

    Nope, this Windows is the first release that presumes/pre-empts that you, the user, will do your computing across multiple devices and that you don't want to have to worry about your data & user experience being tied to any one device.

    Want to see it in action? Log into Win8 with an MS account on any machine - your apps, data, settings, everything will magically appear (assuming you've allowed it) even if the machine has never heard of you before (and again, assuming this isn't locked down). Load Office 2013 - again, your files & data appear as if you created them on that very machine, all completely seamlessly. All the apps & social integration stuff also follows you wherever you go - the idea being you wouldn't know you were on a new/different device - again all seamlessly streamed from whatever sources of social networking you have setup. That's huge; it effectively eliminates the concept of local file-systems for user data. Everything is transparently in the cloud and just works, as it should be. This is the first Windows to be built from day 0 on this basis.

    Now, for people that don't like metro because they don't have touch? The answer is simple - don't use metro-style apps if you don't like them. Your old desktop works just as well (although it doesn't have the same level of cloud syncing) and all the apps you had on Win7 will work just the same way. If a killer game/app comes out in metro-style, guess what, you have the option to run that too. It would be like Mac OS users being able to natively load iOS apps if they wanted - the choice to be able to is good.

    Not to mention the benefits for developers having a single & consistent API set to target every form-factor from multi-CPU gaming monster to WinRT/ARM tablet, and that's before we mention WP8 being as it is the same kernel. That's a benefit for users too; pick up any modern MS powered device from Xbox to tablet to desktop PC and the user will be in a familiar UI.

    Also, keyboard shortcuts make up for any lack of touch. WinKey + X brings up the power-user menu; WinKey + C brings up the right-swipe bar; there's absolutely loads to help mouse/keyboard users feel at home, but there is a learning curve and from what I've seen from feedback, this is the most objectionable thing. People don't like change; bears have also been know to take dumps in the woods, life goes on.

    Are you happy on Win7? Good for you; if you are on Win7 & have no other devices or intention of sharing data on anything but your trusty desktop, then frankly the benefits of Win8 are lesser.. There's a new & vastly improved task manager; Win8 is faster in almost all metrics, and there are some nice desktop GUI enhancements that you'd likely appreciate, however the face of IT is changing to one where it will be rare to have just the one computer, and Windows 8 has that front & center of the design.

    One day your average IT worker will find the idea of saving personal data directly to a device actually most amusing I suspect, and the shift in thinking has already started.

    There you go; that's my take on the best of Win8. I don't expect many here to appreciate it as I do but there's some real benefits in Win8, despite that being an unpopular opinion in the group-think echo chamber that Slashdot can be sometimes. Now lets return to the flaming.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      So...you're saying it magically syncs data and apps across various devices? Like CromeOS or Android or iOS? Not really new stuff; people have been doing that for quite a while now.

    • by nschubach (922175)

      Nope, this Windows is the first release that presumes/pre-empts that you, the user, will do your computing across multiple devices and that you don't want to have to worry about your data & user experience being tied to any one device.

      So I can save my office document and open it on my Android Phone or my Linux laptop?

      Not to mention the benefits for developers having a single & consistent API set to target every form-factor from multi-CPU gaming monster to WinRT/ARM tablet, and that's before we mention WP8 being as it is the same kernel. That's a benefit for users too; pick up any modern MS powered device from Xbox to tablet to desktop PC and the user will be in a familiar UI.

      You see, that's the thing, I don't own an XBox or a Windows Tablet... I already have a PS3 and an Android phone. I'm not going to go out and buy everything I own again in Microsoft flavor just to feel self important. In fact, I'd argue that everyone should avoid putting all their eggs of data in one companies basket... but you keep doing it. If Windows allowed me to log in with my Google ID and synced with my Google Drive

    • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 25, 2012 @02:08PM (#41769153)

      Dear Astro, believe it or not, we get it. Many of us get what Microsoft is attempting to do. And many of us think that parts of it are not even half bad ideas. Not particularly original - but then, who is? This thing is, we just have very little faith that Microsoft is going to get it right. Why? Because of Microsoft's track record. Microsoft has tried it again and again and again, and the one thing they're left with which is really solid and stands for itself is the OS - which works best when it is not perceived. See, people don't actually enjoy using WIndows - it's just there, and it runs all their software. It's still quite annoying, but then so are all OSs. Windows does a worse job than others in keeping out of the way and acting as a platform for actual productive stuff, but also better than some. Office? Format lock-in. Xbox? Good stuff. Wouldn't actually sell if not at a loss, though. Zune? Dead. Kin? Never got to the stage of being alive I think. "Plays for sure"? Isn't playing anymore. And that last one is maybe the best - They actually succeeded in branding something "Plays for sure" - and then knock it down? That takes a *special* kind of talent. Silverlight? Microsoft really appreciates that you attempted the switch from Flash and became a stakeholder. Remember? "Developers developers developers"? But now not so much anymore. They thew it at the wall, it didn't stick .. next!
      So yeah ... W8. Good stuff. Good concepts. Now if I somehow managed to get the feeling that, say, MS employees were actually eating their own dog food, and not only that, that they actually had some kind of influence of any kind to say what might be improved, what is inconsistent, a wording, a button, anything ... then you might actually be on to something. Trouble is, we don't get that feeling. It's going to be another buzz-word compliant three-quarters finished piece of work built by a group of people where those who have vision have no influence, and those who call the shots have their eyes firmly fixed to the bottom line with complete disregard for anything else.
      So yeah, again. It's not that we're not going to use it. Microsoft still has enough money at the moment to make sure there isn't much of a realistic alternative. The sales numbers are going to look good on paper. But that's doesn't mean that we actually like it. It's going to be an OS which is slightly more annoying than the last one. And it certainly doesn't mean that it's actually any good.

    • by thoth (7907)

      Are you happy on Win7? Good for you; if you are on Win7 & have no other devices or intention of sharing data on anything but your trusty desktop, then frankly the benefits of Win8 are lesser.. There's a new & vastly improved task manager; Win8 is faster in almost all metrics, and there are some nice desktop GUI enhancements that you'd likely appreciate, however the face of IT is changing to one where it will be rare to have just the one computer, and Windows 8 has that front & center of the design.

      I'm happy on Win7, but have run Win8 for a few months at work (yeah, I'm one of those lucky people). I find Win8 absolutely fine when I stick to desktop/classic mode, which is most of my usage.

      The downside is the integration and work flow between Metro and Desktop is god awful. I'd explain but I see Ars Technica already did a better job that I can. Read their review under the "Mixed Mayhem" header (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/windows-reimagined-a-review-of-windows-8/5/). I find it

  • And so begins another era of nerds lamenting change!!!!!

  • The most common reason people stick with Microsoft is because they are familiar with the GUI. With this major switch by Microsoft, is there any reason not to switch to Mac or Linux? Some Linux distros look a whole lot like the GUI that many people know and love.

    I don't understand the business plan of "Force users to adopt a GUI they don't like just because we want it." What business college teaches that course?

    Of course, despite all that, a lot of people will probably stick with Microsoft because, well,

  • Windows Media Center (Score:4, Interesting)

    by paenguin (311404) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @03:52PM (#41770637)

    ...is no longer included in Windows 8.

    Earlier this week, I thought I'd upgrade my HTPC to Windows 8. I've been using WMC on W7 now for a couple of years and it has been working great using HDHomeRUn tuners for local broadcast reception and recording/time shifting.

    Imagine my surprise. No WMC. It's a paid upgrade. Ok, I'll bite. Where to I upgrade it? Clicky linky. Sorry, the licensing server is not available.

    So I said to myself, Self... Let's see what else this WIndows 8 has to offer. This user interface is a total abortion. After fumbling around for an hour and feeling like a fool, I eventually clicked some of the colored boxes on the screen. Not a single thing would launch with the exception of IE9. Reason? My TV is 720 lines of resolution, not 1080. Every stinkin' app said I didn't have the required resolution.

    My HTPC is now running Windows 7 again. And will be for a long time to come. It's way too good of a television to discard for a new operating system.

  • by erp_consultant (2614861) on Thursday October 25, 2012 @05:13PM (#41771443)

    It seems to me that many of the people that now use Linux/OSX/Android/iOS are doing it precisely because they DON'T want to use MicroSoft products. All of the aforementioned systems work just fine without any assistance from MS. Ok, so MS has a new OS and a new tablet. That's great if you're looking to stay in that ecosystem. But if you're using one of the other operating systems why in the world would you want to change?

    I use a Mac and an Android phone and tablet. I've got a Windows VM on my Mac and haven't had to use it in probably a year. But I keep in around just in case. The phone and tablet work great. I've got tons of apps to choose from and I can do anything I want with it. Windows 8 and their shiny new tablet do no excite me in the least. I'm happy with what I've got.

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