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Zimmermann's Silent Circle Now Live 127

e065c8515d206cb0e190 writes "Several websites have announced the launch of Silent Circle, PGP's founder Phil Zimmermann's new suite of tools for the paranoid. After a first day glitch with a late approval of their iOS app, the website seems to now accept subscriptions. Have any slashdotters subscribed? What does SilentCircle provide that previous applications didn't have?"
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Zimmermann's Silent Circle Now Live

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20, 2012 @03:50PM (#41716341)

    "What does SilentCircle provide that previous applications didn't have?"

    The 20$/*PER MONTH* price tag. You can also use csipsimple, it does secure messaging (using sips) and voice using the zrtp protocol. For 0$/*PER MONTH*.

    (Captcha: investor. How fitting...)

  • Poor headline (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20, 2012 @04:09PM (#41716459)

    Using the name Zimmerman immediately after a post about Treyvon Martin was a poor choice. Perhaps "PGP Creator's Silent Cirlce is now live" would have been a better choice. I certainly didn't associate the name with PGP, I associated it with the previous article, and I'm sure others did as well.

  • Re:MDM and MAM? (Score:3, Informative)

    by furbearntrout ( 1036146 ) on Saturday October 20, 2012 @04:33PM (#41716593) Homepage

    What do MDM and MAM stand for?

    Mobile Application Management (MAM) and Mobile Device Management (MDM)

  • Ostel [ostel.me] is a running public beta of the Open Secure Telephony project [guardianproject.info]. It's end-to-end secure VoIP. Anyone with an Android phone (i.e. everybody reading this) is covered for everything but video by The Guardian Project [guardianproject.info].
  • by hardie ( 716254 ) on Saturday October 20, 2012 @04:44PM (#41716669)

    I worked with Phil for awhile at StorageTek--6 months or a year I think. He's a very smart guy. He was also one of the most evangelistic people I have ever met. I do NOT mean this in a religious sense, any way shape or form. At the time (this was the 1980's) he spoke a lot (incessantly?) about the danger of nuclear war and all these bombs we've got. I expect that this same incredible focus and sense of purpose has now been applied to security, which could be a really good thing. I also expect that he has mellowed a bit, but that's just a guess.

    Steve

  • CALEA (Score:5, Informative)

    by gellenburg ( 61212 ) <george@ellenburg.org> on Saturday October 20, 2012 @04:59PM (#41716793) Homepage Journal

    I wrote to Silent Circle over a week ago when news of the impending launch first started making circles.

    SC's COO was kind to respond in an attempt to allay my fears. Sadly though his answer was more "non" than one.

    A week ago replied back with a follow-up question, and have yet to receive a response.

    While my political activism is pretty much limited to change.org petitions, SC is directly marketing their services TO activists. As the Occupy movement has shown, political activism, and the free-speech that goes along with it, are becoming in jeopardy. My concern, and I feel it's a valid one, is that CALEA will give subscribers a false sense of security. After all when Microsoft purchased Skype, one of the first things they did (they had no choice) was to install CALEA intercepts.

    Hopefully somebody at Silent Circle will be able to answer this. Until then, I wouldn't recommend it. Check out The Guardian Project and Jitsi instead.

    (Note - I'm only posting this because as Silent Circle's COO, Vic Hyder is authorized to speak on behalf of the Company.)

    -----BEGIN EMAIL-----
    Mr. Hyder,

    Thank you very much for the reply and information you've provided below,
    but I'm afraid I'm still unclear on one particular point: /does Silent
    Circle fall under /CALEA/jurisdiction or not/?

    Kind regards,

    George Ellenburg

    On 10/11/12 7:43 PM, Vic Hyder wrote:
    > *George*,
    > Thanks for the note. Quick response - Silent Circle provides peer to
    > peer encryption from subscriber to subscriber. The Secure Calling Plan
    > offers members a little flexibility to use their Silent Phone number
    > to send and receive calls outside the Circle (encrypted to our servers
    > but decrypted from servers to non-subscriber). We'll let our members
    > determine what their threat model is and how they need to protect
    > their transmissions.
    >
    > Circle up.
    > *______________*
    >
    > Vic Hyder
    > Chief Operations Officer
    >
    > Silent Circle
    > Private Encrypted Communications
    > Silicon Valley | Washington DC
    >
    > w: SilentCircle.com
    >
    > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
    > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
    > are addressed. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the
    > sender immediately and destroy and/or delete all copies. Circle up.
    >
    >
    >
    > On Oct 11, 2012, at 6:01 AM, George Ellenburg > wrote:
    >
    >> Hello-
    >>
    >> I read with interest news reports yesterday that Silent Circle was
    >> getting ready to launch. As an activist and privacy advocate, I was
    >> troubled though to read that Silent Circle was planning on offering a
    >> Secure Calling Plan amongst other communication services.
    >>
    >> I understand the obvious revenue stream such an offering will generate,
    >> but I'm intrigued as to how you plan to not comply with CALEA, or
    >> curious as to how CALEA wouldn't do an end-run around your service
    >> altogether? CALEA, as you probably know, is the Communications
    >> Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, which requires mandatory technical
    >> intercept points for Law Enforcement and Intelligence purposes.
    >>
    >> Being a United States Company, offering Communication services, located
    >> in the United States, your Company is certainly subjected to mandatory
    >> CALEA implementations.
    >>
    >> Thanks for your time. I earnestly look forward to your response.
    >>
    >> -George Ellenburg
    >>
    >
    -----END EMAIL-----

  • by Bysshe ( 1330263 ) on Saturday October 20, 2012 @05:50PM (#41717115)
    Considering Zimmermann's track record of not including backdoors and that he was investigated for several years much to his personal detriment for several years in the 90s for his release of PGP I think this particular protocol is pretty safe. Lastly and business case is based 100% on total security. If ever it leaked that there's any kind of backdoor it would all be for naught. I highly doubt the core team (there are 4 of them, including Zimmermann, 2 ex seals, and Callas) would risk their reputations on including a backdoor. In addition any real backdoors would flag an interference.
  • Re:Poor headline (Score:4, Informative)

    by 1u3hr ( 530656 ) on Sunday October 21, 2012 @12:29AM (#41719347)

    I certainly didn't associate the name with PGP, I associated it with the previous article, and I'm sure others did as well.

    I associated it with Bob Dylan myself.

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