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Gartner Analyst Retracts "Windows 8 Is Bad" Claim 306

Posted by timothy
from the mmmm-kay? dept.
nk497 writes "A Gartner analyst made headlines after describing Windows 8 desktop as: 'in a word: bad.' After web reaction, including one story asking why anyone bothers to listen to the consultancy firm anymore, Gunnar Berger has now yanked the offending sentence from his blog post, saying it was taken out of context and only applied to using the desktop with a mouse and keyboard, and that overall Windows 8 is a good thing. 'If you look at my blog, I've gotten rid of it,' he said. 'It's upsetting me that it's being taken completely out of context.'"
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Gartner Analyst Retracts "Windows 8 Is Bad" Claim

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  • Fatigue=suck (Score:4, Insightful)

    by StormyWeather (543593) on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @08:48AM (#40747881) Homepage

    Hold your arm out in front of you for 20 minutes and tell me how great that touchscreen interface is.

    Windows 8 is full of fail, just like the Nintendo power-glove, and for the same reason.

  • by OzPeter (195038) on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @08:53AM (#40747937)

    saying it was taken out of context and only applied to using the desktop with a mouse and keyboard,

    Mouse and Keyboard??? Isn't that how 95% of the population is going to initially be using windows 8?

  • by SirGarlon (845873) on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @09:03AM (#40748051)
    This is why we all need to say what we mean, and mean what we say. Otherwise we lose our credibility. Whether Berger didn't really mean Windows 8 with keyboard and mouse is "bad," or he did mean it and is now recanting under pressure, looks bad either way. He's not only harmed his own reputation, but his employer's as well.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @09:05AM (#40748063)

    He has no spine.

  • Re:Fatigue=suck (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @09:17AM (#40748249)

    Please invite me to watch you take your monitor off its stand and rub it on your leg, ok?

  • by LordLimecat (1103839) on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @09:18AM (#40748277)

    Frankly though, I don't really care about the UI, I've been using the Win2K classic mode since well..win2K.

    The UI is one of the most forefront things in Windows, and if theyre radically changing how applications are going to interact with the user (single fullscreen app, two contexts metro / regular, new widgets) thats going to affect 99% of users.

    I mean maybe there are new commandline commands or powershell cmdlets, but Im going to go out on a limb and say those arent why people get a new desktop version of windows.

  • Re:In a word (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Outtascope (972222) on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @09:35AM (#40748529)

    Ding Ding Ding! Bob, we have a winner! E. Fish. ANSII. Touch is not and cannot be practical for most business/office applications. Yes, it rules for Angry Birds and Draw Something, maybe even for your calendar (provided you are only viewing). But it is an awful interface for anything that requires typing and makes multi-tasking nearly impossible. Copy and paste on touch is the gonorrhea of computing. Just look at how crappy Autocad has gotten over the last 10 years or so where they have tried to move everything to a point-and-click use paradigm. It sucks balls, I spend an hour everytime I install it disabling all of the new UI crap they put on it because it just isn't efficient. I can't wait to see the cesspool that they create for it on Win8.

    I think touch it is fantastic on tablets, but not the friggin' desktop. And even there, the dozen or so people in my office that have tablets all end up getting keyboards and mice for them (myself included on my ICS Android tablet) because they simply can't get stuff done quickly enough with touch.

    Leave it to Microsoft to finally get something right (Windows 7) and then throw it away.

  • by jellomizer (103300) on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @10:09AM (#40748939)

    Which version of OS X?

    Windows XP was released back in the early 2000's About the Same time OS X was released.
    Now Microsoft Screwed up and couldn't get Vista out until late in the decade, allowing Apple to release multiple major version upgrade in that period of time, and began to not support Macs that are 6 years old or older.

    What OS X and Windows Areo did was offload a lot of the graphic processing off the CPU and onto the video card. When they did that, the older systems without such cards started to take a performance hit.

  • by jez9999 (618189) on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @11:06AM (#40749885) Homepage Journal

    What about Android on the desktop? I bet Google could make a lot of money selling PCs with the ad: "Works just like your phone, with the same android interface you know and love."

    Why is everyone so obsessed with unifying interfaces? Sometimes, different interfaces are *necessary* to achieve wildly differing functionalities on the desktop and portable devices.

  • by bigstrat2003 (1058574) on Tuesday July 24, 2012 @12:11PM (#40750941)
    I don't think it's a shill post (which, on this site, is really another term for "someone who said something positive about a product/company I don't like", nothing more). I do disagree. The desktop is fine (it's the same as ever), but I find the start screen to be a complete train wreck on a traditional computer. It's completely unsuited to navigation with a mouse and keyboard, and is transparently designed to promote Microsoft's bottom line, rather than a positive user experience. I would have to literally get paid to put up with it.

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