Security Camp Is Not Space Camp, Just Based On It (Video)

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The idea behind the United States Space Camp is to give kids (and some adults) a chance to do astronaut training-type things that will get them jazzed on science and technology, in addition to getting away from home for a while. Security Camp is sort of like that that, says instigator Marc Tobias, but is about security stuff rather than space, and somehow interviewer Timothy Lord didn't ask Tobias about plans to teach security, computer or otherwise, for space travelers, when he talked with Tobias at HOPE (Hackers on Planet Earth) in New York. Since Tobias is an expert in physical security (locks), and locksmithing is going to be taught at Security Camp along with electronic/hacking-type security skills, it's a good thing all participants will be checked for criminal records and tendencies before they're allowed to participate. If there are plans to make a movie about Security Camp, which Tobias didn't mention one way or the other during this interview, we hope it's better than the 1986 movie, Space Camp.

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I loved Camp Counselor Joshua the best!

[crazyjj]

He taught us how to play Global Thermonuclear War...and chess!!

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[Talderas]

Pirate Camp is easier to join. You just need to bring illegally obtained booty with you to get in.

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[Jeng]

Pirate Camp is easier to join. You just need to bring illegally obtained booty with you to get in.

I thought it cost a leg and a hand to get into Pirate Camp.

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[Talderas]

That's to get into pirate captain camp.

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[The Grim Reefer]

The first test is finding it.

So it's sponsored by the NSA.

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[gnick]

The Ninja Security Agency?

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[DarwinSurvivor]

I found the camp, but there was nobody else there!

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[Jeng]

I think our best bet is to convince him he is actually good at this and he needs to start his own blog.

If he thinks he is crap he'll never apply to a different job.

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[vlm]

It's the only way he'll stop posting so much crap!

Behave yourselves at /. camp or we're all going to get stuck having to sing the open source song around the campfire before lights out, or we'll have to go snipe hunting on the eco course, or even worse they'll start posting raspberry pi and ardweeeeeno stories again.

The concept of /. camp is much more appealing than /. BI, or /. jobs, or /. dating personals, or that other stuff. Its actually kind of fun to think about what /. camp would be like. Probably a hell of a lot like HOPE, which I haven't been to

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[Tommy Bologna]

Imagine how disappointed I was when I read it as "Tracy Lords" and then realized my mistake.

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[Farmer Tim]

None. She doesn't need a second box that's bigger on the inside than the outside.

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[HeckRuler]

Well what's his middle name?
Edwin?
That means he's officially Tim E Lord

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[Bill, Shooter of Bul]

I think the proper response would be to check the signature of the request.

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[gnick]

Typical Recation: ...?

Is that like a vacation that you take twice?

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[vlm]

Space camp for fascists!

Unfortunately in the real world we already live in "security camp for fascists"... treated like children, herded from one authoritarian safety conscious activity to another by upperclassmen. If I had to spend the rest of my time stuck in a camp, I would much rather prefer space camp.

Instigator?

[ripler]

"instigator Mark Tobias"

Why would you send your children to someone like this? Does he razz them for a week or two, just to see if he can start something?

Stanford prison experiment

[vlm]

locksmithing is going to be taught at Security Camp along with electronic/hacking-type security skills

How utterly uninspiring. I assumed by the title it was going to be like LARP or reality TV show or re-enactment of the Stanford prison experiment and got all excited, then the letdown. Well, it probably is a more productive way to spend your summer than reading /. and playing WoW and CoD all day. Probably.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment [wikipedia.org]

misguided screening attempt

[slew]

...it's a good thing all participants will be checked for criminal records and tendencies before they're allowed to participate.

Although I suppose you could check for some criminal records (although most juvenile records will be sealed, so that doesn't seem to be too easy), I have no idea how to check for tendencies, But even if you could, I've always thought that there's a fine line between a tendency to want to be a criminal, and to want to be in law enforcement similar to the fine line between a black-hat and a white-hat. Also...

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. --SunTzu

I think this is especially true in the security arena. Many security consultants (computer and othe

I'd rather do Space Camp (again)

[cmdr_klarg]

I attended Space Camp back in 1983 (almost 30 years ago? damn...), was by far one of the most interesting and fun things I've done. I'd love to go again with my son, but don't think he'd have the same interest as I did (he's more jock than nerd). He's almost the same age I was back then too.

Or you could just go to ToorCamp

[4mn0t1337]

So, it isn't a kids's camp per se (although should be family friendly), but ToorCamp [toorcamp.org] has been around for several years. In fact, the first one was keynoted by Emmanuel Goldstein, who runs HOPE where Tobais was interviewed. The camp is attended by InfoSec/Hacker types, so the emphasis is on security, including the physical security that Tobias is fond of. I'm going at it looks like it will be awesome.

It's happening in a few weeks in Washington state, so if you are in the Pacific Northwest, you should go!

Hmm

[lightknight]

Killing their dreams softly...