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Ask Slashdot: Good Low Cost Free Software For Protecting Kids Online? 646

An anonymous reader writes "I have two kids, 7 and 8. I would love to allow them internet access on a regular basis. The problem is what's out there: I really don't want them to deal with porn ads and such, but making either a blacklist or a whitelist myself would take months. So I figured I would ask you: what free software would you use with preferably prebuilt lists to protect your kids online? What is out there with fairly easy configuration ability (to allow for game servers — they love Minecraft), but secure enough they can't just bypass it using a Google search?"
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Ask Slashdot: Good Low Cost Free Software For Protecting Kids Online?

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  • Free or free (Score:5, Informative)

    by afidel ( 530433 ) on Friday June 22, 2012 @12:28AM (#40407601)
    I'm not aware of any Free software in this space, for free software you've got MS Live Family Safety (works with most browsers on Windows and some applications) and OpenDNS content filtering. I use the Live family safety on their laptops and OpenDNS on their tablets.
  • OpenDNS (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 22, 2012 @12:32AM (#40407637)

    OpenDNS has it's limitations, but overall it's really good.

  • Re:Net Nanny (Score:2, Informative)

    by RandomUsername99 ( 574692 ) on Friday June 22, 2012 @12:34AM (#40407645)

    Maybe they're running linux. Adding the cost of windows on to that would make it significantly more expensive. Maybe they're being rational enough about it to not be scared into immediately whipping out their wallet to have someone else protect their children. Maybe there are FOSS alternatives that are actually better. Did you actually do any research on it? If so, it'd be nice to hear what your results were.

  • K9 Web Protection (Score:4, Informative)

    by Slacker3000 ( 1267656 ) on Friday June 22, 2012 @12:42AM (#40407727)
    I've used K9 Web Protection for years. http://www1.k9webprotection.com/ [k9webprotection.com] It's free and does a pretty good job. I also setup my wireless router to use OpenDNS as an added layer of protection for any of my kids friends who may bring something over and connect to our wireless network. It's not foolproof, but you can setup a filter level and it does a decent job of stopping "accidental" clicks.
  • subject (Score:5, Informative)

    by Legion303 ( 97901 ) on Friday June 22, 2012 @12:45AM (#40407769) Homepage

    Firefox, AdBlockPro, Noscript, and the computer in the living room.

  • Dan's Guardian (Score:5, Informative)

    by capedgirardeau ( 531367 ) on Friday June 22, 2012 @12:54AM (#40407845)

    One possibility is http://dansguardian.org/ [dansguardian.org]

    It is filtering based and there are community maintained blacklists and whitelists for it for different audiences.

    Good luck and as much involvement as you can have in their internet use to teach sensible web use will be beneficial as well.

  • Re:Free or free (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 22, 2012 @01:05AM (#40407915)

    Squid with Dansguardian (http://dansguardian.org/) has worked well for me. It has a free "subscription based" white/blacklist and also a heuristic "score" mode.

    Could be a good balance between watching them all the time and letting them have some freedom. You tell them not to visit certain sights, and unless you're running it
    on your router as a transparent proxy, can be bypassed with a modicum of effort, so some of the onus is on them.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 22, 2012 @01:31AM (#40408067)

    I highly recommend using the Privoxy content filtering proxy server. Since using it I can't recall ever "accidentally" having come across a porn site and the ad-free experience makes browsing the internet much more tolerable. You can also add your own filters based on host names, partial URIs and even funky things like image dimensions (to block out banner ads from specific providers) and it has the ability to strip GIF animations down to their first frame (no annoying blinky/flashy adverts). You can also define exceptions so that ad-supported web sites you approve of can still display their non-invasive ads and/or certain banking sites aren't fucked-up by having their Javascript blocked (why aren't they on SSL anyway?).

    All of my desktop computers and mobile devices use it - it's particularly amusing to see how insistent some mobile apps are trying to get their advertising - especially Angry Birds, which tries about 8 different FQDNs and IP addresses before giving up and letting you play anyway.

    Even with Privoxy, though, you cannot replace supervising your children's online time. I also recommend *not* allowing computers and connected mobile devices to wander off into bedrooms, etc. - make sure your kids are in the lounge/kitchen area where you can keep an eye on them.

  • Re:Net Nanny (Score:4, Informative)

    by xaxa ( 988988 ) on Friday June 22, 2012 @05:37AM (#40409209)

    My links weren't very good, but I don't think you read them anyway. Notice that they end with ".UK", I'm in Europe too.

    I have no problem with fetishism. (Also, the quote isn't from a "shrink", it's from the editor of the letters page for a crap newspaper.) What is a problem is when outside influences (pornography, media, etc) normalise certain behaviours, which pressures teenagers into doing things they don't want to do.

    Here's a quote from a report by the NSPCC [nspcc.org.uk] (British charity, National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty for Children)

    Our research into young people’s experiences of violence in their intimate relationships
    clearly demonstrates the very high levels of violence that some girls experience from their
    male partners. A third of girls reported some form of sexual violence and a quarter
    experienced physical violence, with many reporting controlling behaviours from their
    partners. The very detrimental impact of such violence on the welfare of girls is clear. In
    contrast although boys did report experiencing violence from a partner, only a minority
    reported any detrimental impact.
    Some boys in the interviews showed very negative attitudes to girls, often objectifying them.
    This was especially prevalent in their attitudes towards pressuring girls into sexual contact
    and their lack of awareness regarding the impact of this on their female partners. For example,
    in one group interview with three boys, when they discussed their sexually coercive ‘tactics’
    the other boys in the group responded with admiration. It was clear that some boys
    predominantly viewed girls as primarily sexual objects, and that sexual coercion was seen as
    normal and acceptable. Little regard was held for the girls’ feelings. In other interviews boys
    were either unsure or unaware if their behaviour constituted sexual pressure. The pressure on
    boys from peers and the media to portray a dominating sexual persona is also an issue.
    In contrast, for girls a disembodied and passive sexuality predominated where sexual pleasure
    was mostly absent in their discussions. Many girls stated that the sexual aspects of their
    relationships primarily consisted of attempting to resist the pressure they experienced from
    male partners. They found this aspect of their relationships hard to negotiate and worried that
    their partners would finish the relationship if they confronted them about their behaviour.
    These girls derived a great deal of peer status from having a boyfriend – a key protective
    factor would be to ensure girls were able to gain self-esteem from other aspects of their lives.

    Is that acceptable? I doubt many of them discussed their relationship with their parents, and I doubt their parents had that kind of relationship.

  • by colin_young ( 902826 ) on Friday June 22, 2012 @08:44AM (#40410057)
    I don't disagree with your points, but what filtering software will do is decrease the risk of accidentally seeing something you don't want to have to explain to your children just right now. Not zero-risk, but lower. My 9-year old knows what sites she can visit, knows which ones she has to ask about, but doesn't type very well and sometimes screws up a URL, whether or not I'm sitting right beside her. Even my wife could do with some help with mistyped URLs sometimes...
  • Re:Net Nanny (Score:3, Informative)

    by matthewrdamon ( 1168949 ) on Friday June 22, 2012 @09:17AM (#40410381)
    Don't know why it hasn't been mentioned in all of the comments so far, but Open DNS http://www.opendns.com/home-solutions/parental-controls/ [opendns.com] will handle exactly what you need, and its harder to bypass than some other software out there.

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