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LulzSec Debunks UK Census Hack 93

Posted by CmdrTaco from the we-swear-we-didn't-do-this-one dept.
Earlier this morning we reported that an arrest had been made relating to the hacker group LulzSec. mask.of.sanity notes "Hacking group LulzSec has poured cloud water on claims that it had stolen UK Census data and was preparing to release the records. 'Just saw the pastebin of the UK census hack. That wasn't us — don't believe fake LulzSec releases unless we put out a tweet first,' the group said from its official Twitter account."
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LulzSec Debunks UK Census Hack

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  • Tweet first (Score:5, Funny)

    by SEWilco ( 27983 ) on Tuesday June 21, 2011 @12:08PM (#36514366) Journal
    So after they put out a Tweet, do believe fake LulzSec releases.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by ackthpt ( 218170 )

      So after they put out a Tweet, do believe fake LulzSec releases.

      What is your first clue these people need to get out more, or at least away from the screen?

      • Slashdot users, or...?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Thud457 ( 234763 )
        LulzSec == namefag

        Only Anonymous is anonymous.

        That means that your not LulzSec just because you say your LulzSec. But as long as you remain anonymous, your part of Anonymous.
        capisce ?
        • So anyone claiming to be a member of Anonymous is obviously lying. So if I remain anonymous, but do not want to be part of Anonymous, what do I do? How do I know I am not part of the group, unless I claim to be part of the group?

    • Yes, do. I think the next one will be: We totally didn't do that (now that we see there really could be consequences brought by intelligence agencies that we told to F off).

      Bin Laden lasted 10 years because his messenger drove about 90 miles before putting the battery in the cell phone to make a call so the signal wouldn't be traced back to him. Since I doubt most of them would get off the sofa to change the TV channel, I give any particular member of "LulzSec" and "Anonymous" somewhere between 10 hours

  • wtf is (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    cloud water?

  • Anonimity has its price (Score:5, Insightful)

    by i kan reed ( 749298 ) on Tuesday June 21, 2011 @12:09PM (#36514382) Homepage Journal

    How can you prove who you are when you're anonymous? Well, I guess there's always a public key.
    Use a public key, you dorks.

    • How do we know the denial is legit? Maybe the announcement of the hack was correct.

    • How can you prove who you are when you're anonymous? Well, I guess there's always a public key.
      Use a public key, you dorks.

      It won't work. How many times have we been told there are no members? That nobody can really speak for them? That any random group of people on a given day can take action without everyone else knowing or being involved?

      What they think is a clever tactic for shielding them from individual guilt also makes it practically impossible to deny anything effectively, or believably.

    • How can you prove who you are when you're anonymous?

      How can you claim you had nothing to do with it, when you just asked every cracker to help you "Hack The Planet" yesterday? (Operation AntiSec)

      LulzSec requested assistance from Anonymous as well as any other crackers, stating that their "top priority is to steal and leak any classified government information, including email spools and documentation."

      It may not be a "top" priority, but doesn't this sound a little bit contradictory:
      "Help us hack the world's Governments!"
      Look, I hacked the census for

  • Will the real LulzSec remain silent? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ackthpt ( 218170 ) on Tuesday June 21, 2011 @12:11PM (#36514426) Homepage Journal

    How do we know anyone is speaking for the real LulzSec?

    let's see some ID

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by laxguy ( 1179231 )
      If you search around you will find a number of groups working to oust LulzSec.

      http://lulzsecexposed.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com] for one.. they have some "d0x" and a number of chat logs. Having read through the logs myself, there are a couple of people that "speak" for the LulzSec. Though they all seem to have access to the twitter, there are a couple of "main" guys.. and there is definitely 1 or 2 leader figures.

  • Debunks? (Score:3)

    by uberjack ( 1311219 ) on Tuesday June 21, 2011 @12:14PM (#36514494)
    Or denies? Because there's a big difference between the two, and I believe it's the latter.

  • Cloud water? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Andy Smith ( 55346 ) on Tuesday June 21, 2011 @12:15PM (#36514514)

    Isn't it cold water? To pour cold water on something, to debunk it.

    Cloud water is rain.

    • Yeah. Idioms are apparently confusing to a lot of people, especially if they heard them wrong initially and run with it. Had an ex that refused to believe that it was a "temper tantrum" and not a "tantertantrum." Or the more mainstream moo point [youtube.com].

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by ackthpt ( 218170 )

        Yeah. Idioms are apparently confusing to a lot of people, especially if they heard them wrong initially and run with it. Had an ex that refused to believe that it was a "temper tantrum" and not a "tantertantrum." Or the more mainstream moo point [youtube.com].

        Je suid d'accord. I was searching for some specs on Heat Shrink Tubing when I encountered "Approcations" [sei-sfp.co.jp] I wasn't familiar with the word, thinking it was "Engrish", so I did a search on Approcations and found it not to be not just one misspelling/misuse/confusion, but at least two. In this instance it should be Applications and in at least one other the meaning was for Appreciation.

      • Haha! I knew what that moo point link would be before I even clicked it :-)

        • I don't usually post off-topic...but...

          Joey: It's a moo point.
          Chandler: I'm sorry...moo point?
          Joey: Yeah, it's like a cows opinion - it doesn't matter. It's moo.

      • This whole thing is a bit of a damp squid.
      • Off-topic, just thought i'd mention i was reading your blog, and i love it. post more stuff, plzthnx :D

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by txsable ( 169665 )

        A former employer of mine used to (well, probably still does) say something was a "mute point". It grated on my nerves every time he said that.

        • A former employer of mine used to (well, probably still does) say something was a "mute point". It grated on my nerves every time he said that.

          What? You didn't take the opportunity to point out that "mute" means STFU?

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by qubezz ( 520511 )
          A former employer of mine used to call them "vanilla folders".
      • for all intensive porpoises she was right

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        "I could care less" is my favourite since it actually means the exact opposite of "I couldn't care less".

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Gideon Wells ( 1412675 )

      I wrote it off as a tech pun on the Cloud.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by gtall ( 79522 )

      Technically, they didn't debunk or refute, they rebutted. The first two require acceptable evidence, the latter says "I didn't do it, so there!"

      • Respect, sir! :-)

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by ackthpt ( 218170 )

        Technically, they didn't debunk or refute, they rebutted. The first two require acceptable evidence, the latter says "I didn't do it, so there!"

        They refuted.

        To rebut they must have initially been asserted to be the responsible party.

        Claiming they are not the one and same who claimed responsibility is refuting.

        and don't even get me started on prebutals.

    • Cloud water... hmmm... that sounds marketable!
    • This sometimes get mixed up when they translate from the UK press to the American Press.

  • Cloud Water... (Score:3)

    by Ynot_82 ( 1023749 ) on Tuesday June 21, 2011 @12:18PM (#36514556)

    ...I think I've had that
    no matter how good your friends are, don't share your water bottle

  • Dear submitters,

    If you don't know what a specific word or figure of speech means, OR how it's spelled, DON'T use it. I beg of you.

    To loosely quote Stewie, "Anyone caught using the terms 'irregardless,' 'a whole nother,' or 'all of the sudden' will be put in work camps.”
  • .. considering how such authorities make stuff up so to fabricate an enemy... you'd think they would better understand how foolish they appear at taking down one or a few people. i.e. Orlando Florida keeps arresting people for feeding the homeless... so haven't that gotten the ring leader yet?

  • Perhaps the arrest by the UK police earlier has put some fear in to them so they are now trying to act like they haven't hacked the UK census in a desparate attempt to fend off the police.

  • "Your honor, I didn't do the crime. I would have tweeted about it. Just like I did for all my other crimes. See?"

  • Weren't we told that this was being managed by a highly secure, terribly efficient American corporation, and there was absolutely no danger of our personal data being hacked into and released on the internet?
  • News organizations are failing at due diligence these days. Gotta keep feeding those profit margins, no time for fact-checking, no calling up the UK census and asking about a breach. Nope, just release whatever you read on a random pastebin and fire away!

    This is why I get breaking news from Twitter feeds. The journalism quality is just as good (or bad).

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