Daily Sony Hacking Occurs On Schedule 353
jjp9999 writes "LulzSec was compromised and a member of the group, Robert Cavanaugh, was arrested by the FBI on June 6. Meanwhile, LulzSec hacked Sony again, this time leaking the Sony Developer Network source code through file sharing websites."
Arrested (Score:5, Insightful)
Guess the seven proxies weren't enough.
How did this arrest go down? This is clearly a more interesting development then yet another Sony hack. Hopefully there will be more information forthcoming.
Re:Sounds like they're got inside access (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe you didn't read the earlier articles about just how horrible Sony's security setup is. Here's a hint: It's every bit bad enough that a dedicated group could find a different way into the system every day for weeks on end.
Re:I almost feel sorry for Sony (Score:5, Insightful)
I just imagine someone hacking their presentation at E3 while they're live onstage. That would be some serious lulz.
Re:I lost track (Score:5, Insightful)
You don't let people hack your consoles, they find something else to hack. Idle hands and all that. :)
Go FBI! (Score:3, Insightful)
Seriously, I expect this will be modded into oblivion because Slashdot hates Sony and loves anyone who sticks it to the man (see also: Wikileaks, Anonymous, etc).
But they are criminals, and therefore I for one am glad that the FBI has had some little success in tracking them down, and look forward eagerly to the day when the ringleaders are forced to defend their actions in court.
The fact that they are committing crimes against someone you hate cannot justify those crimes. Indeed it must not, because turning a blind eye to crime just because you don't like the victim leads to mob rule. It is the antithesis of the rule of law on which our society is founded, which protects our rights as well as Sony's. That's one slope that history has proven time and time again to be very slippery indeed.
And, hey, maybe they'll put up such a good defence that the jury will refuse to convict them and the balance of power between corporations and common people will be shifted, and that would probably be good too. But it should be done in courts or congress, not by vigilante mobs deciding to lynch a corporation that offended them.
Not always black and white (Score:5, Insightful)
Indeed it must not, because turning a blind eye to crime just because you don't like the victim leads to mob rule. It is the antithesis of the rule of law on which our society is founded, which protects our rights as well as Sony's. That's one slope that history has proven time and time again to be very slippery indeed.
I don't think the history has conclusively proven at all whether the rule of law enforced blindly without regards to who is right or wrong is a good thing.
For example, the Underground Railroad illegally helping escaped slaves, or every revolution in the history of the world.
Obviously the importance of the cause is different here, but it helps make my point clearer by using high-profile examples.
Re:Bad Porn (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Sounds like they're got inside access (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe you didn't read the earlier articles about just how horrible Sony's security setup is. Here's a hint: It's every bit bad enough that a dedicated group could find a different way into the system every day for weeks on end.
I don't think you're doing anyone a favor when you present Sony as a monolithic corporation.
It's not as simple as Sony vetting one security setup and replicating it across all websites tagged as Sony.
Sony is made of of endless domestic and international subcorporations, each with its own (poor) security setup.
At least these hacks are a return to the previous trend of defacements, revenge, and lulz,
as opposed to the last few years of organized crime, ID theft, and renting out botnets.
Re:Nope, Safety is a Myth (Score:4, Insightful)
Wait what? You talk about 'bad manners' as agents of malcontent.
I don't know where you come from, but I would consider it 'bad manners' to crack a security system just because you don't like a person, organization, or company... just as I would consider it 'bad manners' to punch someone in the face because I think they have 'bad manners.' Isn't it 'bad manners' to force someone to do something they would rather not... such as change their password because you just stole it from them?
I don't know of a single nation that forces people to buy Playstations, Sony Music, or Sony TVs. If you don't like it, don't associate with them. Anything else is 'bad manners.'
Re:Nope, Safety is a Myth (Score:3, Insightful)
Ah, but in objective view, we are into "the contractors working on the Death Star" debate. Blindly supporting one bad actor (Sony) and then complaining about suffering the fallout from another bad actor (hackers) is a tad disingenuous.
You may not have _known_ you were supporting a bad actor, but its not so much that you happened to be in a bar when a brawl broke out, more you got into his car and rode to the convenience store, sat there in the car while he attempted a robbery, and then complain about getting hit with broken glass when the store clerk shoots back.
This is, in my humble opinion, a case of _nobody_ being innocent and nobody being right. Everybody knows, or should have known, that Sony is a draconian evil empire as far as DRM and generally bing that least trustworthy entity "a corporation".
The problem is that there is no other battlefield available to the revolting parties. They see themselves as revolutionaries, and they are not necessarily wrong in that perception.
Revolution is always messy.
I, personally, avoid Sony. I _do_ play Xbox whit Xbox Live, knowing full well what exposure that brings. I don't use windows except as work requires, nor mac (I use Linux at home and as the supervisor in most of my Windows work stuff). I don't use debit cards, only credit cards to interact with the Internet entities at large.
The internet is "the bad part of town", I know not to bring my good car (the debit cards on real accounts) and I know to stay out of the seediest bits, but I have business there. I don't get to pick the street gangs, the corrupt cops, or the organized criminals that populate place. I pay my money and I take my chance. You to.
We don't know how this is going to shake out. The history will be written by the winners, as it always is.
Innocence is as much a myth as safety or security. Privacy is largely in that same boat.
Back when I was a kid my grandmother used to say "a secret, once told, is a secret no longer" and that becomes orders of magnitude more true on the Internet or in the realms of alleged mental property.
I said that Sony took the first lightning bolt. The storm is far from over. Some people are going to get wet, some people are going to get struck down, some things will burn and some things will grow. Fore every minute of playstation network downtime there is an improved chance of increased fairness in the credit reporting regulations. We don't know the unintended consequences yet.
This thing gripping us economically here in the "new world", the same chaos that is gripping the "third world" in the flesh. The hackers believe they are hacking in your best long-term interests. Sony is claiming that their interests and your interests are the same. The waves rush outward from there.
Re:Go FBI! (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm losing all the mods I made thus far (and resisting the temptation to downmod you just because you coughed up that stupid "I'll get modded down for this" crap, which is my usual policy for such whiny attention-seeking dickweedism), but I can't let this go by uncontested.
turning a blind eye to crime just because you don't like the victim leads to mob rule. It is the antithesis of the rule of law on which our society is founded, which protects our rights as well as Sony's.
That's just crazy. Our society in no way "protects our rights as well as Sony's." Our legal system is designed to protect Sony's "rights" (which are not rights, but privileges granted to an artificial construct called Sony) at the expense of our rights (which are in fact, as enumerated in our Constitution, actual and legal rights). The idea you propose here matches neither the theoretical nor the actual system under which we live. And you know it.
That's one slope that history has proven time and time again to be very slippery indeed.
I'd say the exact same thing, but I don't think we're talking about the same slope.
And, hey, maybe they'll put up such a good defence that the jury will refuse to convict them and the balance of power between corporations and common people will be shifted, and that would probably be good too. But it should be done in courts or congress, not by vigilante mobs deciding to lynch a corporation that offended them.
Because that happens in courtrooms across this great land of ours every day, doesn't it? Congresscritters are pushing each other out of the way to champion Joe Everyman against the nefarious interests of Big Media, aren't they? And our well-informed, socially aware, and technologically savvy courts deal defeat after defeat to these villains! Why, it's a wonder things like this ever happen given the enlightened society and legal code under which we live!
Are you fucking kidding me?
Are you for some reason under the impression that those people work for you or something? I can assure you they do not.
Given all that, I'd like to hear a realistic alternative to vigilante mobs.
Re:Sounds like they're got inside access (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, no, I think this is one of the few times that the "terrorists", so to speak, actually won.
10 years ago no one would have used the word "terrorists" (in quotations or otherwise) to describe straight forward black hat hacking.
There are at least a hundred definitions of "terrorism" and they all include violence or the threat of violence.
There's no violence here.