Best Places To Work In IT 2010 205
CWmike writes "These top-rated IT workplaces combine choice benefits with hot technologies and on-target training. Computerworld's 17th annual report highlights the employers firing on all cylinders. The Employer Scorecard ranks IT firms based on best benefits, retention, training, diversity, and career development. Also read what IT staffs have to say about job satisfaction. How's your workplace, IT folk?" Read below for a quick look at the top 10 IT workplaces according to this survey.
1. USAA; 2. Booz Allen Hamilton Inc.; 3. JM Family Enterprises Inc.; 4. General Mills Inc.; 5. University of Pennsylvania; 6. SAS Institute Inc.; 7. Quicken Loans Inc.; 8. Verizon Wireless; 9. Securian Financial Group Inc.; 10. Salesforce.com Inc.
missing from the list (Score:5, Insightful)
Independent contractor
The best place (Score:4, Insightful)
In 2010, the best place is the place that will hire you.
In 2010, the best place chooses you!
This is clearly a bogus list... (Score:1, Insightful)
No Google? Seriously?
Clearly, this is a list generated from companies who had to submit their own scorecard... I don't see any of the top tech companies on the list...
Re:Outside the US? (Score:1, Insightful)
What about for those of us that don't like the US and definitely don't want to work there?
Then please don't read American publications and give us a favor to stay were you are!
Best? Why just best? (Score:2, Insightful)
Bullshit (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Bad places to work (Score:1, Insightful)
I worked at a company that was in the top 50 on the Fortune 500. They were renowned for their tolerance and diversity. I was fired from that place for being gay.
Interesting accusation, even though you leave us with ZERO details.
How do you know you were fired because you were gay?
What company was it?
Did they TELL you that you were fired because you were gay?
Did you file and win a law suit against this company?
Did other non-gay girls complain that you were sexually harassing them?
Without these types of details, your anecdote is quite worthless.
The thing with these types of survey... (Score:4, Insightful)
Opinion from 15 years on the field, 10 companies (Score:5, Insightful)
I've been working in IT as a Software Developer for 15 years now, worked for 10 companies in 3 different countries (i've been a freelancer/contractor for the last 7 years) and across 4 different industries (IT Services, IT Products, Finance, Publishing)
I can tell you that, if you're a really gifted Software Developer in the beginning of your career, the best places to work don't even appear in these surveys:
- In my experience, the best place to start in IT as a Software Developer is a small IT consultancy
In big companies, bureaucracy is rife and mind-numbing - things like getting access to a development Linux machine for example can take from several days (if all you need is an account on an existing machine) to months (if you need a new machine). In a small company you can set-up your own machine (dual boot ur desktop: no prob) or just have a chat with you friendly local sysadmin (often another developer) to get access to one - in a big company you have to fill-in one or more request forms and if it's only getting a new account in an existing machine if you're lucky it will end up in the queue for some guy in India to do at the end of the following week.
In small companies, if you're good you'll be noticed (you're not just another number in a ledger) and they'll give you all kinds of challenging stuff to do - in the beginning of your career this is the fastest way to get exposures to all kinds of technologies. In a large company you're stuck in a corner doing a limited number of things, probably working on an existing, long lived system, whose only educational value is to be an example of how not to design/code software and you won't easilly become known in other teams as being a really good coder and thus getting a chance to work on other systems.
Working in an IT company is better that in a non-IT one for a very simple reason:
- In an IT company (especially services) you are in a profit-centre: the group you are in contributes directly or in a very straightforward way to the company's revenues and profit. They'll be a lot more keen on best practices (including such basic ones as promoting code reuse) and actual development processes (for example Agile) usually with a much beter approach to preparing for a project before coding even starts.
- In a non-IT company you're in a cost-centre: the group you are in costs money and does not visibly contribute to the company's bottom line. There will much less emphasys in optimizing the software development process (since it's results are not as easy to measure) and, especially in large companies, you are much less likelly to find widespread code-reuse programs or any kind of formal or semi-formal software development process (large company's CTOs are often promoted from infrastructure groups - i.e. setting up networks, installing systems - or the business, and are better know for their self-promotion or golfing skills than for their strategic approach to IT).
As for the difference between IT Products and IT Services companies, the former just have a much smaller variance of technologies you might be exposed to (since they concentrate on a couple of products) while the later, having many projects for many client will have a lot more opportunities for learning new technologies.
I strongly advise you to keep away from large well know IT Consultancies since:
- They're sweat shops
- They outsource most of the low level work to India and as an entry level developer you will end up doing only local installation/maintenance tasks (that cannot be outsourced) and/or being trained as a Consultant (which is more of salesman than a techie).
Re:Observations and Questions (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Bad places to work (Score:2, Insightful)
You sure it was not because you were hitting on co workers?
Assuming most workplaces have workers of both sexes: would you have asked the same question if gp would have stated to be straight instead of gay?
Re:Bullshit (Score:3, Insightful)
To be honest that sounds like any 24 hour systems support role to me, pretty standard fare. Not a great job but someone has to do it and for that line it is a fact of life. Given a sufficiently large organisation someone is in a position where they're going to be paged at weird hours and depending on how your on call works (different people for different days, different people per week, etc) four nights in a row doesn't sound that hard.
Re:Verizon? (Score:2, Insightful)
UserFriendly's law: a company can be a good workplace for IT staff or a good workplace for salespeople. You cannot have both at once.
Re:Bullshit criteria (Score:2, Insightful)
It's funny (to me) that you say this because I recently watched a video that told me money isn't a motivator. I'm sure it's someone trying to pitch their ideology on me. I don't know about you, but I'll gladly take a raise. I have a house to buy and I don't want to go "cheap."
You should watch that video again because you missed the interesting part:
If you don't pay people enough money, they won't be motivated. The best use of money as a motivator is to pay people enough to take the issue of money off the table. Pay people enough so that they're not thinking about the money, they're thinking about the work
(mostly quoted from the linked video)
Re:Bullshit (Score:3, Insightful)
One might think that in a place the size of Google, they would have some people working nights to take care of issues at night. It's not like they're a Mom'N'Pop where there wouldn't be enough stuff for them to do when there isn't a critical issue.