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10th Annual System Administrator Appreciation Day 232

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jonk689 writes "Let's face it, System Administrators get no respect 364 days a year. This is the day that all fellow System Administrators across the globe will be showered with large piles of cash and expensive sports cars in appreciation of their diligent work. But seriously, we are asking for a nice token gift and some public acknowledgment. It's the least you could do."
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10th Annual System Administrator Appreciation Day

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  • by raddan (519638) * on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:03PM (#28899107)
    Yeah, sysadmins get shit on [youtube.com]. But hey, we all knew it came with the territory before we got into this job. Part of this is due to the fact that people seem to think that computer run on magic or something, so they have no clue what we do.

    As an aside, the IT department at work has kept a running tally on how long it's been since we've been thanked for our work at the company picnic. I've been here for 6 years... nothing yet. Meanwhile, the lowliest assistant gets a mention (and even sometimes [some assistant's] husband or wife, "for moral support").
    • Yeah. I mean, it'd be easier if they weren't all green from monitor glow.
    • by Brian Gordon (987471) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:07PM (#28899167)
      Here's [youtube.com] the more famous homage to sysadmins dealing with lusers :)
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by vux984 (928602)

        That's one of my favorites. Its sheer brilliance.

        But not because it illustrates the idiocy of the users (which it does) but because in that one IT is completely dysfunctional too. I mean its funny not because I know users like that (and I do), but because I know IT people like that... arrogant, dishonest, totally incompetent...

        Its unbelievable (and yet eerily familiar) how bad IT is in that that clip.

        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by Brian Gordon (987471)
          It's not all IT's fault. Watch part 2 [youtube.com] for the kind of stuff he has to deal with from Chip. Part 2 is even better IMO
          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by vux984 (928602)

            Oh I never claimed it was ALL IT's fault, but lets face it...

            1) he's playing video games when he should be working, even as the shit is hitting the fan
            2) he brings down a website he wasn't supposed to, without any real reason
            3) he initially lies about the fact that he brught it down
            4) he lies about the fact that he received an email not to reboot it
            5) he deletes the sent record of a message from someones exchange box to help him justify the lie he never received it
            6) he takes a screenshot of the penis deskt

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by contrapunctus (907549)

      As an aside, the IT department at work has kept a running tally on how long it's been since we've been thanked for our work at the company picnic. I've been here for 6 years... nothing yet. Meanwhile, the lowliest assistant gets a mention (and even sometimes [some assistant's] husband or wife, "for moral support").

      They haven't paid you in 6 years?

  • by Brian Gordon (987471) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:05PM (#28899131)

    It's the least you could do

    What, paying you isn't enough? What makes you more deserving of appreciation than any other profession?

    • by sys.stdout.write (1551563) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:08PM (#28899177)
      Actors have the academy awards.
      Physicists have the Nobel Prize.
      Computer programmers have furry conventions.

      Why not give sys admins the same respect?
    • by Romancer (19668)

      The fact that without the servers being up and available, most other professions do not continue to run.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:14PM (#28899281)
        Power-plant engineers, electricians, and A/C maintenance folks do not get appreciation days. And without their work, no servers would be up and available.
        • And without a sys-admin the Power-plant engineers, electricians and A/C maintenance folks sit around waiting for the systems to come back online before they start work again. We have reached the time where there are very few major things that happen without a computer controlling it.

          I am not a sys-admin I work on software that is used in power plants and a lot of other areas.
          • by ajlitt (19055)

            So those computers that run those services are powered and cooled by unicorn flatulence, right?

            • Yes, Unicorn Flatulence.... Or more typically another power source so that your control systems are not dependent on the thing that you are controlling.
              • by ajlitt (19055)

                Oh, so you mean the grid power provided by a plant 300 miles away that's built and maintained by power-plant engineers, electricians, and A/C maintenance folks with control systems monitored by sysadmins?

            • Now there is an under-appreciated profession: unicorn flatulence collection!

            • by Sir_Lewk (967686)

              Well without car mechanics I'd be willing to say that after a while a good number of all of those guys wouldn't even be able to get into work!

              • by ajlitt (19055)

                Real sysadmins never have to leave the house. Engineers & maintenance folk aren't usually so lucky.

      • by DrLang21 (900992)
        For what the small company I work for pays for IT services, I would gladly take over the contract, half their fee, hire two guys, and pay for most new equipment out of my own pocket.
      • by Corbets (169101) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:15PM (#28899293) Homepage

        The fact that without the servers being up and available, most other professions do not continue to run.

        Yet without other professions to do the actual work of your company, there's not even a need for you and your servers.

        • by nizo (81281) * on Friday July 31, 2009 @03:10PM (#28900173) Homepage Journal

          That's right; sysadmins are part of a team of people required to keep the business running smoothly. But how many other folks in the company need to get up at 3am to do their jobs? Many sales guys have an emergency sales meeting at 3am? How about the secretary, does he get paged and need to come in with no notice so he can file some documents at 3am? Not many other professions would put up with the lack of resources and total ignorance of planning that a sysadmin puts up with all the time. Yet since the sysadmin isn't doing anything that can have a simple metric applied to it (number of sales closed, number of documents filed), people just assume they aren't doing anything useful.

          • by mpoulton (689851)

            Not many other professions would put up with the lack of resources and total ignorance of planning that a sysadmin puts up with all the time.

            What, you think lack of planning and resources are somehow unique to IT? News flash: every aspect of most businesses is run right on the edge of inadequacy. It's the right way, usually. Excess resource availability is a wasteful expense. It is more cost effective to make people do their jobs with scarce resources and at the limit of their capabilities (and occasionally suffer the consequences of that) than it is to make sure everyone is comfy and supplied with everything they think they need and only

            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              by nizo (81281) *

              ...where the consequences of failure are so high...

              So is spending $3,000 to cool a room full of servers a reasonable expenditure? Especially when that room full of servers is failing due to heat, taking down company email, web, and file shares, and possibly damaging 30-40 thousand dollars worth of equipment? I've had bosses quibble over things even more idiotic than this, believe me. And then the higher ups wonder why things are broken, and why haven't you finished all your other projects? while pleas for $

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by evilviper (135110)

          Yet without other professions to do the actual work of your company, there's not even a need for you and your servers.

          I've setup MANY systems specifically designed to replace 100 people, performing time-consuming tasks, with 1 guy hitting a few buttons and moving some paper around.

          If that guy didn't exist, I could do that job myself, in-between other tasks.

          My company has other employees, of course, but certain companies can be almost COMPLETELY automated by computers, and some entire industries have disappe

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Romancer (19668)

          That argument is a dead end. Not insightful.

          Without all of the other reasons the professionals need the servers, there are others that also need them. Say if the google servers go down. Not only will google suffer but the dependent users and other third party positions that utilize those informational sources.

          Now the other extreme, say your companies servers go down, you will be unable to log in to your computer if it is a domain. You will be unable to get into outlook since exchange is down. (assuming a wi

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        The fact that without the servers being up and available, most other professions do not continue to run.

        Unless you're a developer. In that case, it's better to go ahead and fix it yourself instead of waiting for the sysadmin to try rebooting and then come asking for help.

        I guess some of us have better work environments than others :-(

        • by lorenlal (164133)

          Unless you're a developer. In that case, it's better to go ahead and fix it yourself instead of waiting for the sysadmin to try rebooting and then come asking for help. I guess some of us have better work environments than others

          Unless you're a sysadmin who's getting a call from a developer because they *think* they know what's wrong and "fixed" the problem, yet their software isn't working...

          Sorry, this is a bit of a raw and recently reopened wound for me...

          • I think computer professionals of all types can agree that there is nothing more frustrating than dealing with another techie that has no clue what he's doing.

            It makes us all look bad and depresses salaries.
      • by geekoid (135745)

        The fact is, without sales guys most corporation stop to run.
        Also programmers, DBAs, accounts and a slew of other people.

        If garbage isn't collected, cities have a tendency to stop functioning.
        Water to, and eletricity, and many other things.

        Do yuor job. If you, as a person, aren't appreciated either step up your game or find a new place to work.

      • by Angostura (703910)

        I bet you send the guys at the electricity generating station a thank-you every year, don't you? And the guys who run the local silicon fab.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      What, paying you isn't enough? What makes you more deserving of appreciation than any other profession?

      A little extra show of appreciation, especially to someone who often has to work late without warning or come in at odd times and deal with frustrating problems and frustrated people, can go a long way to making a person feel comfortable and, well, appreciated. Treating people nicely, whatever their profession, generally encourages them to go that extra mile for you; saying that you give them a check and

      • by geekoid (135745)

        Sure, a PERSON goes above anfd beyond and is good at there job should be appreciated.
        But not a day where they all are appreciated. That's just stupid, and I suspect it doesn't help moral when the good sysadmin is getting recognized and lumped in with the crap sysadmins.

        Of course since there is an appreciation day, there really isn't a reason to appreciate someone for going about and beyond, right?

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by vertinox (846076)

      How about a garbage collector appreciation day?

      That's on October 10th [blogspot.com].

    • I trade my time for money. That's why they call it a "job" instead of "fun." And, as a compliment doesn't cost anything, it would be nice to hear once in a while.
    • What, paying you isn't enough? What makes you more deserving of appreciation than any other profession?

      The fact that they're reading your email at this very moment?

    • I agree entirely. Where's "Poor customer service person who has to deal with your stupid backward ass" appreciation day? Where's Garbage Man Appreciation Day? Mail man? Pretty much every public service industry.

      Where the hell is Fire Fighter appreciation day? EMT appreciation day?

    • by Hatta (162192) * on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:39PM (#28899711) Journal

      What makes you more deserving of appreciation than any other profession?

      Who said anything about being *more* deserving of appreciation? Every hard worker deserves some appreciation.

    • by KodaK (5477)

      You assume that other professions don't have "appreciation days" when, in fact, they do. Also, you appear to think that SAs believe that they are more deserving than other professions. While I don't doubt that there are plenty of admins out there that hold an arrogant view like that, I also believe that the majority of professional sysadmins don't. I don't begrudge my boss bosses day, or our administrative assistant's secretaries day. It's just nice to be appreciated.

    • How about the anti-appreciation we get the rest of the year?

      "Come on, all you do all day is play on the internet anyway"
      "It's not like you guys don't read my email"
      "What do you mean you won't fix my home computer?"
      "You nerds are all alike, all technical skill no personality"

      Besides, it's not as if secretaries, maintenance workers and bosses don't already have their own day. ( April 21, Oct 2, Oct 16 )

    • by plague3106 (71849)

      Since there are Secretary's day, Boss's Day, Inventors' Day, etc.

    • by silanea (1241518)
      While you do have a point, sys admins are among those people whom the "ordinary" employee only ever notices when something does not work. They do not (usually) contribute to new products, they do not (usually) get you sales, so unless your network share is not there or your build server is down you have little need to directly interact with them. The result is that many people forget about who enables them to do their job. Sys admins receive far more abuse relative to praise than other fields, or so has bee
  • by Aldenissin (976329) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:06PM (#28899157)
    If you haven't been there, then this is for you! http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ [thewebsiteisdown.com]
  • Yep, yep, yep... wait, let me just grab my dictionary.... hmmmmmm...
  • Piss off (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:10PM (#28899207)

    But seriously, we are asking for a nice token gift and some public acknowledgment. It's the least you could do.

    Why should you get a gift for doing your job like everyone else does?

  • by neonprimetime (528653) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:12PM (#28899253)
    Sysadmins setup the web server to host www.sysadminday.com [sysadminday.com]
    Sysadmins setup the networks that allow you to view www.sysadminday.com [sysadminday.com]
    Sysadmins protect your networks to make sure you're really viewing www.sysadminday.com [sysadminday.com]
    Sysadmins make backups of www.sysadminday.com [sysadminday.com]in case it has issues.
    Sysadmins ensure there is no viruses on the www.sysadminday.com [sysadminday.com]
    Sysadmins wakeup at 2am to reboot the servers and ensure www.sysadminday.com [sysadminday.com] is up.
    Sysadmins would will gladly help you navigate to www.sysadminday.com [sysadminday.com]
    Sysadmins really just want a friend, but if that's not possible they are satisfied with you going to www.sysadminday.com [sysadminday.com]
    Sysadmins would also be very happy if you post a link to www.sysadminday.com [sysadminday.com] on other sites
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Indeed. Let's show our appreciation on this special day by slashdotting their servers....

    • by Xtifr (1323) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:36PM (#28899655) Homepage

      The rant above assumes I have any interest in visiting sysadminday.com, but we'll gloss over that for the moment. :)

      Sysadmins setup the web server to host www.sysadminday.com

      A web server that was created by developers.

      Sysadmins setup the networks that allow you to view www.sysadminday.com

      If you mean the physical infrastructure, then no; otherwise, yes, using the software created by developers for that purpose.

      Sysadmins protect your networks to make sure you're really viewing www.sysadminday.com

      ITYM "try to protect", and again, using software created by developers.

      Sysadmins make backups of www.sysadminday.com

      By running scripts and applications created by developers (and hardware provided by...another kind of developers).

      Sysadmins ensure there is no viruses on the www.sysadminday.com

      ITYM "try to ensure", and again, using software created by developers, assuming that the sysadmins or their bosses were foolish enough to select virus-prone software in the first place. (Otherwise, they try to ensure it by selecting or installing systems which aren't virus-prone, the solution used by my company.)

      Sysadmins wakeup at 2am to reboot the servers and ensure www.sysadminday.com is up

      That one I'll give you, although if it still has problems after rebooting, who do the admins call? That's right--the developers.

      Sysadmins would will gladly help you navigate to www.sysadminday.com

      Using software created by developers.

      Sysadmins really just want a friend, but if that's not possible they are satisfied with you going to www.sysadminday.com

      In my experience, I have to say I think you're overgeneralizing, but some admins are friendly enough. Others follow the advice of the BOFH, though...
      (I'm tempted to inject something here about "some of my best friends are...", but I'll resist the urge.) :)

      Sysadmins would also be very happy if you post a link to www.sysadminday.com on other sites

      Except for the ones that have enough sense not to support link-spamming. :)

      So, as near as I can figure it, sysadmins should be worshipping the ground I walk on. Yet that doesn't seem to be happening. Oh well, maybe I'll take one out for a beer later in any case.

    • Sysadmins would also be very happy if you post a link to www.sysadminday.com on other sites

      Unless that results in their server being slashdotted at 2am...

  • System Administrators get no respect at least 364 days a year.

  • Stop the madness (Score:2, Insightful)

    by geekoid (135745)

    these stupid I need to be recognized for my job class days need to end.

    How about you do your job the best you can and stop whining?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by apoc.famine (621563)

      We did, until the internet showed up. Now EVERYONE can beg for attention. Triple points if you work in a profession which requires some web-savviness, since you can leverage that into a bigger cry for attention.

      Look, I've been tech support and a SA, I've relied on tech support and the SA. I do my job, you do your job. I thank you for doing your job well, you thank me for doing my job well.

      If this isn't your work climate, LEAVE! Get yourself a job where people appreciate your work, and you

  • So... what are your (SA's) top 10 that get under your skin? Especially dealing with users?
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by rAiNsT0rm (877553)

      Users are generally the least of our problems.

      1. Management/bosses that have no grasp of technology but need to look like they do to stay employed.
      2. Middle management who see their role as web-surfing and bare minimum work because they have people under them to do it all.
      3. Underfunding
      4. Being forced into unrealistic timetables and deadlines
      5. Being expected to be on-call 24x7 with no extra pay or time off
      6. Being afraid to speak up ever because the response will always be, "OK, then get on that"
      7. Expect

      1. "I can't remember my password."
      2. CAPS is on. That's why you can't log in.
      3. I have better things to do than to see everything you do on the internet. Stop being so damn paranoid.
      4. "We want a system that does all of these whiz-bang things, but we don't want to pay for it."
      5. User walks into my office and says "How many memories do I need to install Windows 95 to my motherboard?" [The answer is 72MB but a rather uneducated question]
      6. I absolutely hate when users ask for inane changes to Group Policy without understandin
  • by mseeger (40923)

    Let's face it, System Administrators get no respect 364 days a year

    Let's face it and make it 365 or 365.249 days in an average year.

    CU, Martin

  • by Garbad Ropedink (1542973) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:17PM (#28899327)

    My sysadmin tattled on me when I played a prank on a co-worker by changing his wallpaper to look like his computer had an error. The admin took half a second to figure out what was wrong. Then he went off and told my manager and they sent out a company wide email saying that the sysadmin was owed an apology. I've also had a number of run ins with previous sysadmins. Blocking web access randomly and refusing to allow me to change my mouse to left handed mode.

    I think it would work better as a holiday if we could couple it with Guy Fawkes day. Maybe burn a few effigies.

    I know there are probably a lot of sysadmins on this website so I didn't post anonymously because I know how you people take such pleasure in getting your petty petty revenges. So that's my gift to you on your special day. :)

  • by exley (221867) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:18PM (#28899331) Homepage

    Actually, the least I could do is nothing.

  • by Overzeetop (214511) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:27PM (#28899491) Journal

    This just cements you in place as being very low on the corporate totem pole. Every hear CEO appreciation day? Management appreciation day? Doctor appreciation day? Engineer appreciation day (engineer's day in India doesn't count)? Lawyer appreciation day?

    No?

    How about teacher appreciation day? Secretary (or, ahem, administrative assistant) appreciation day? See where I'm going with this? I wouldn't take this as a compliment.

  • Generosity (Score:3, Funny)

    by DoofusOfDeath (636671) on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:33PM (#28899589)

    But seriously, we are asking for a nice token gift and some public acknowledgment. It's the least you could do.

    ... if you value email access.

  • It's today? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by elvum (9344) * on Friday July 31, 2009 @02:34PM (#28899621) Journal

    If /. had run this story yesterday, many more sysadmins would have been appreciated...

  • So this morning when I got into work we couldn't write to any of the home directories.
  • You should clearly get them a ThinkGeek gift certificate. $20 gets most sysadmins a T-Shirt they really would like.

    -- Kirby, ThinkGeek programmer

    (Okay, see, I'm biased, but I'm _still_ right.)

  • Stop playing your games and do your job. Fix my computer because I clicked on that I Love You E-mail sent from 125 people I don't know even though you told me not to (btw its' your fault). Oh and you need to install me the latest adob photoshop even though I don't really need it - but the guy in the art department has it. And I want windows 7 - I hear people have advanced copies of it so use your computer to computer illegal programs to download it for me. Also unblock facebook...what the hell - i need t
  • How many besides us admins even know about Sys Admin Day? I'd guess about zero. As someone who has done this job for about 12 years now, I can honestly say that my current job will be my last in this field when it comes to an end. I love how posts in this thread state "we knew what we were getting into when we took this job" No, I am a very hard-working individual who gets results and saves companies a lot of time and money. I'm not a hot-air admin who knows nothing but buzzwords, or a paper admin who has e

  • by nurb432 (527695) on Friday July 31, 2009 @03:16PM (#28900257) Homepage Journal

    How about just be left alone for the day by the 'public' ?

  • since at the University I work, a lot of computers (Windows XP, Vista, and 7 RC) are freezing up due to ESET NOD32 for some reason. So the sys admins are very busy dealing with this all day. Actually been at it since last night. Great day for them :)
  • I keep having to do his job because he either doesn't know how to do it, or refuses to support any of the software I write because he doesn't want to read the documentation. Then he claims he has no documentation, which is a load of horse shit. Hmm, horse shit.. I think I found the perfect gift.
  • Let's burn some karma..

    Most sysadmin I've met (yes fortune 500 included) are pedantic, computer illiterate slackers. I deal with you as a consultant so I probably get the worst treatment you guys can give. An basic example, currently my average delay to get a simple test email account set-up hovers around 6 hours after approval with a 50/50 chance that I end up being given access to the Administrator account on the exchange server and a 80/20 chance that I need to physically coerce the sysadmin into doing
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by geekoid (135745)

      FYI as a consultant, you are given the lowest man on the totem to work with.

      I find it funny to watch you overpriced goons squirm.

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