James Bond Villain Data Center 103
jeet writes "Data centers are boring and NOCs are doubly so. But this one sure beats all of them. Found this video of a data center suited for james bond villain on Data Center Knowledge website.
The facility is established in a hydrogen bomb safe bunker and has generators used in German submarines. The CEO takes you around and shows some other cool features."
Re:What is up with the extreme locations? (Score:5, Informative)
It's usually not cheaper to demolish and build new.
You have the cost of demo, construction, zoning issues, etc. If you can find a location that has many of the characteristics you need, you're usually better off. If you find a location that isn't suitable for much else, you can usually get it cheap.
By the way, the guy in the video looked familiar. At first I thought all the network people looked and sounded the same. But it turns out he's Dean Nelson [sun.com], Senior Director Global Lab & Datacenter Design Services at Sun and founder of Data Center Pulse. I remember him from this data center video [youtube.com].
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Re:What is up with the extreme locations? (Score:5, Informative)
They are leasing the bunker from FÃrsvarsmakten for 25k Swedish Kronor about $3k per month on a 25 year contract. So its quite cheap.
A friend of mine handled the construction of this one, and is currently building another "bunker data center" for bahnhof.
About Data Center Pulse (Score:3, Informative)
Re:What is up with the extreme locations? (Score:5, Informative)
It is far cheaper and better to take down and build new, esp. in residential buildings. You start the building from scratch with current materials and with full knowledge of the structure. You don't have to pay labor costs, which are vary but typically are 50% of the actual expense of work, for careful deconstruction that renovation often necessitates.
You really don't know what you're talking about.
Let's take a residential example. In my area, a brand new 2 story home runs about $800k+.
There are many 50's era capes and ranches that go for $400-$500k. A tear down and rebuild, from the foundation up will cost over $350k. If you just rip off the roof and build a full second story, redo the first floor, you're looking at around $200-250k and you can move in much quicker.
Want to speed it up even more, they can rip off a roof and set in a modular second story addition in a day.
The point is you have to know what you want to build, if you can find something close to that, that you can build on, you're going to save a lot more money than if you demo and start over.
If you want to build a 40 room mansion, but you're starting from an 8 room house, you don't see the same cost benefit.
With residential construction, you can usually live in the home through many remodeling projects, removing the expense of temporary housing.
You also don't know crap about TOH. It's very rare that they demolish the whole house. The most they generally do is demo down to the framing, only where they have to, and build additions.
The show is called "This Old House" not This New House so they try and preserve as much of it as possible.
It would be cost prohibitive to recreate a lot of the original work, especially things like trim work that you can't even get these days. Look at the Brooklyn Brownstone project they recently did. They spent a lot to repair and refinish all that woodwork because redoing it all over to the exact look would be too expensive. What your normal tear down rebuild contractor would do is just replace it all with the 4" trim you get at Home Depot. All the charm of the home, and value, would be lost.
They also didn't tear down the facade or the framing.
You even seem to contradict yourself in some of the things you say.
As for lofts, they were rezoned residential when manufacturing left the city. To tear them down and rebuild would have been too expensive. Instead they modified them. That was a lot cheaper and made the project feasible. In the beginning, these lofts were very cheap and not desirable but then became trendy and prices skyrocketed as more and more manufacturing left these areas and residential amenities came into the neighborhoods. I used to live in such a building.
Don't be fooled... (Score:1, Informative)
1) Latency issues (we suspect over-sold with DSL)
2) Non-24 hour access with very expensive remote hands (300EUR an hour)
3) The CEO is a douche bag. You just going to have to trust me on this one.