PC-BSD 7.1 Released With Integrated Software Manager

Death Metal writes "PC-BSD 7.1 is built upon the FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE operating system. FreeBSD is a UNIX-based operating system that provides a high level of security and stability. The Galileo Edition of PC-BSD includes updated versions of KDE (4.2.2) and Xorg (7.4). The latest version of KDE includes new window effects, screen savers, and better 3D Acceleration. PC-BSD exclusively features the Push Button Installer, a software installation wizard with a wide range of applications. The latest version improves PBI self-containment to increase reliability. The Add / Remove Programs tool and the Update Manager have been consolidated into 'Software & Updates.'"

Re:10 gigs?

[jdong]

It's a natural tradeoff when every application is designed to be self-contained. This is the same issue Mac OS X faces with its .app bundles -- each app basically ships a /usr like prefix with all of its dependencies on top of the base OS X API's, and application startup times on cold cache pales to a shared-dependency approach.

Re:10 gigs?

[palegray.net]

While I understand your point in principle, storage is beyond dirt cheap these days. I have a hard time finding laptops with less than a 100 GB drive, and a 1.5 TB drive can be had for $130 on Newegg.

livecd?

[Tibor the Hun]

Can the DVD download also be used as a live-cd? I'd like to see what it's like before installing.

Re:10 gigs?

[samriel]

Yeah, your analogy? Not so much. OSX apps are just
a) a startup script that is auto-run on launch,
b)the .NIB/.XIB interface files,
c) some images, etc. that the application needs to display, and
d) the executable itself.

If you spend any time at all looking through the guts of an OSX system, you'll notice that all the shared dependencies reside within the /Library or /(user)/Library folders.

The reason that a lot of OSX apps are large (not many are huge) is because the developers choose to make one big app with EVERY FRIGGIN LOCALIZATION PACK EVER contained within, instead of compiling a few different localized versions.

Re:10 gigs?

[samriel]

^^^Because I know I'm going to get called out, the dependencies live in /Library or /Users/(user)Library, not /(user)/Library.^^^

Re:10 gigs?

[Anonymous Coward]

You should look at most that use libraries *on top of* the base OS X libraries. Most will include the thid party .framework bundle within the .app bundle, very few will install or use an existing third party .framework in ~/Library or /Library.

So just like Ubuntu

[Gothmolly]

but with a different mascot, a different package manager, and different themes ?

Snark aside - what does this BSD do that any Linux distro or other BSD doesn't ?