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Quicken 2007 For Mac Lacks EV Cert Support 108

adamengst writes "If your bank uses the Extended Validation certificates that require a higher level of identity checking on the certificate authority's part (as at least one Seattle bank does), you may not be able to download transactions using the Mac version of Quicken. Quicken doesn't gracefully ignore extra information in EV certificates as older Web browsers do, but instead throws an error and refuses to download transactions. Intuit says they're working on a fix — but users may have to wait 'a couple of months,' and even then the fix may not be applied to versions before Quicken 2007."
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Quicken 2007 For Mac Lacks EV Cert Support

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  • by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @08:35PM (#26218189) Journal

    Quickbooks Pro 2009? No Mac version to be found yet.

    Quicken? No 2008 or 2009 version for the Mac! 2007 is *still* the latest one they offer! WTF?

    They've been promising they're going to replace Quicken for Mac with a whole new financial management product, but it's not even scheduled for release until Summer of 2009!

    http://quicken.intuit.com/personal-finance/mac-personal-finance.jsp [intuit.com]

    Personally, I'm looking at switching over to a shareware product called iBank. It can import all your info from Quicken, looks MUCH nicer, and actually has regular updates:

    http://www.iggsoftware.com/ibank/ [iggsoftware.com]

  • Just wondering.... (Score:5, Informative)

    by himurabattousai ( 985656 ) <gigabytousai@gmail.com> on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @08:40PM (#26218243)

    Wouldn't offering this as an update to '07 break Intuit's business model of requiring full-price purchases to get updates that should be free?

  • Re:easy fix (Score:5, Informative)

    by Captain Splendid ( 673276 ) * <capsplendid@nOsPam.gmail.com> on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @08:55PM (#26218357) Homepage Journal
    Mod parent up. When we started our business almost 4 years ago, we bought Quickbooks, because that's what I was used to from another job and because that's what everybody does. And I'm so tired of the bloat, the lack of customization and the unwieldy interface that I'm rolling my own solution in the new year.

    It's a good product line, to be sure, but they're stuck in the incremental upgrades cycle a la Madden football, and it's starting to stink.
  • by macs4all ( 973270 ) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @08:58PM (#26218385)
    Considering that what is now known as Quicken started out as an Apple ][ (and IBM PC) "checkbook" app (written in Pascal, no less! [wikipedia.org]), and wildly popular on the Apple ][, Intuit has completely dissed the Mac for some time now. In fact, a few years ago, Intuit had announced that they wouldn't be updating Quicken and/or QuickBooks for the Mac AT ALL! Several of the Intuit developers talked them out of that decision, fortunately (I think).

    So, now that they're all rich an famous and stuff, Intuit has conveniently forgotten more than half of the loyal customers who got them there.

    I'm just amazed that after all this time, that no one else has stepped up to the plate, er, platter...
  • by earnest murderer ( 888716 ) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @09:04PM (#26218433)

    It's Quicken, arguably the largest personal finance software developer giving paying customers the cold shoulder.

    This isn't even a "bug" in as much as they decided they would ignore the issue on the Mac platform in hopes that they could just point at the (*still* unfinished) Mac product and say "there's your patch buddy, $60 please".

    On the up side, this is not nearly as wide spread a problem as it might be. Based on my own experience there are a not insignificant number of Macintosh based Quicken users that bought Parallels and an XP license just to run Quicken for windows.

    No baloney, I know 5 and I didn't even suggest it to them.

    The OS X product sucks that bad.

  • by walterbyrd ( 182728 ) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @09:14PM (#26218527)

    Intuit has about 80% of the US SMB market, in spite of the fact that they suck. Intuits hates to fully support any non-microsoft platforms. I really wish there was a good alternative. Intuit actually has me hoping that microsoft's office-accounting will get some traction.

    A f/oss alternative would be ideal. But, for some reason, there does not seem to be any worthwhile f/oss alternative.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @09:16PM (#26218539)

    Intuit is dead to me. I use Moneydance [moneydance.com]. It's cross-platform (try the demo) and works great. Imports wonderfully from Quicken. Aside from that, there are many [maxprog.com] many [benandruby.com] many [fastforwardsw.com] many [fortora.com] options for mac. And quite a number of good ones [sourceforge.net] for Linux too. There's even GPL'd GnuCash [gnucash.org] for more sophisticated accounting.

    And because I don't like Intuit, here's an offtopic tip-- did you know that thanks to a certain pre-Bush president, any company who wants to sell tax efiling software also has to provide free tax filing [irs.gov] to the general public? Because if you think about it, why the hell are IRS tax filing servers (paid for by the public) not made available to the public? Rather, only certain corporations who then SELL their services to the public to use them? Seems a little unfairly tilted towards big business, doesn't it? Wouldn't you think the government would provide software to the public directly?

    Well the Clinton administration thought so too, but negotiated with Intuit and others [irs.gov] to let them keep their oily grip on the tax filing software in exchange for this "free filing software" deal. Never heard of it? Well, they certainly don't advertise it widely. And I've noticed that in years past they've lowered the maximum income to qualify. Currently it's an adjusted gross income of $54,000.

    According to the web site, more info for this year becomes available January 16th.

    Pass it on. The more you know...

  • by Animats ( 122034 ) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @09:33PM (#26218625) Homepage

    Unless the program has the code to recognize EV certs (which requires tables of valid issuers [wikipedia.org]) it can't distinguish between them and ordinary certificates. So, if there's trouble with EV certs, it means suppport was added, but botched.

  • by FooAtWFU ( 699187 ) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @10:02PM (#26218839) Homepage
    They use Yodlee, a banking platform/service-provider thing that provides connect-to-bank functions. They are also used by a variety of other finance-related things (when I banked with Wachovia, for instance, they had a Yodlee-powered money-management web tool). They have decently-well-established connections within the Industry and hopefully a certain degree of discipline in excess of the Web 2.0 shininess of Mint.

    That said, yes, it is a deficiency that's just not acceptable for some people.

  • by Crash Culligan ( 227354 ) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @10:42PM (#26219103) Journal

    After all, it's not like they don't have someplace to look for alternatives. Apple itself [apple.com] has a whole section on their downloads website dedicated to third party business and financial software. This includes freebies, shareware, and demo versions of larger, more robust packages that they can try out. (Yeah, I know, that covers everything.)

    Can anyone recommend any of the software available in there? I need to recommend something for my parents sooner or later too, come to think of it, and the 2006 version I'm using now is getting a little hoary.

  • by moseman ( 190361 ) on Tuesday December 23, 2008 @10:54PM (#26219171)

    The biggest mistake I made when moving to the Mac wa thinking Quicken's mac product was feature comparable and data compatible with the windows version. Wrong on both counts. But I converted anyways, losing some data along the way. Now I want to go back but I would have to do the whole conversion/data loss thing again. Guess I am stuck for now.

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