Spam Flood Unabated After Bust 188
AcidAUS writes "Last week's bust of the largest spam operation in the world has had no measurable impact on global spam volumes. The spam gang, known by authorities and security experts as HerbalKing, was responsible for one-third of all spam, the non-profit antispam research group Spamhaus said." The article speculates that the operators of HerbalKing simply passed on to associates the keys to the automated, 35,000-strong botnet, and the spam flow didn't miss a beat.
I wonder... (Score:5, Funny)
speculates that the operators of HerbalKing simply passed on to associates the keys to the automated, 35,000-strong botnet, and the spam flow didn't miss a beat
If they sent the keys to that botnet via email. If it got eaten up by the other ends spam filters, that would be irony indeed.
Botnet is obviously now self-aware (Score:5, Funny)
"The article speculates that the operators of HerbalKing simply passed on to associates the keys to the automated, 35,000-strong botnet, and the spam flow didn't miss a beat."
Whatever. I've seen way too many scifi films to believe that. Obviously, skynet is now self-aware.
I for one... (etc.)
Re:Botnet is obviously now self-aware (Score:5, Funny)
If you're right, then the human race's biggest worry is not killer cyborgs. It's erectile dysfunction remedies...
Au Contraire (Score:4, Funny)
My inbox now seems to be filling up with lobster thermidor aux crevettes instead.
Spam is so unfairly maligned (Score:5, Funny)
Consider the economic benefits of spam! [today.com] MessageLabs reports that Egham, Surrey, on the suburban outskirts of London, is the town that receives the most spam in Britain.
"It's not like there's much else to do," says Boris Busybody, 77 (IQ), of Egham Hythe, idly whirling his four-foot penis around his head in a desultory fashion. "Expanding your manhood, growing your breasts, increasing your sperm ... the Lib Dem phone calls get a bit much. That's Doctor Busybody, by the way. My Ph.D arrived last week."
Spam has revitalised the local economy. Busybody has given up cab driving and is now working a lucrative job processing payments from home after he sent them his bank details in response to an urgent security message. "I had that King Otumfuo Opoku Ware II in the back of my cab once. Very generous and helpful fellow."
The Egham Tourist Board has seized the day, with plans for a 50 foot tall penis sculpture at Junction 13 of the M25 on the exit ramp to the town. The sculpture will be encircled by a genuine imitation Rolex and spray a fountain of Spermamax, obtained at a very reasonable rate from a Canadian pharmacy. "You will search an hour for your underwear in the ocean of our spam!" is to become the new town motto.
"I did get a good one the other day," says Busybody. "Barrister Matthew Sergeant Busybody of MessageLabs said we could promote our town to millions of people just by sending them an advance fee to process our incoming email. The stuff they try! â(TM)Scuse me, V!k@grk@ kicking in, got to go have sex again. Sorry."
Re:Solution (Score:4, Funny)
Your post advocates a
( ) technical (X) legislative ( ) market-based (X) vigilante
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
(X) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
( ) Users of email will not put up with it
( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
( ) The police will not put up with it
(X) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
(X) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's life
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
(X) Laws expressly prohibiting it
( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
( ) Open relays in foreign countries
( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
(X) Asshats
(X) Jurisdictional problems
( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
(X) Extreme profitability of spam
( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
(X) Technically illiterate politicians
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
(X) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
(X) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
( ) Blacklists suck
( ) Whitelists suck
(X) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being murdered
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
( ) Sending email should be free
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
( ) I don't want the government reading my email
(X) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
(X) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!
Might I suggest doing business with spammers a crime instead?
Re:Solution (Score:4, Funny)
I'm thinking something more direct... an anonymous-looking execution of a hooded spammer won't get quite as much attention and effect as, say, the severed heads of spammers jammed onto a pike and set in front of a datacenter.
That, or we could show some mercy and at the same time have a living, breathing object lesson by castrating viagra spammers, etc...
Re:Solution (Score:5, Funny)
Just make sure you get the executioners ragingly intoxicated before they do the deed. I would hate for a spammer, of all people, to be remembered as being particularly well hung.
Re:Botnet is obviously now self-aware (Score:3, Funny)
Oh I thought... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Solution (Score:1, Funny)
You missed:
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
(X) Open relays in foreign countries
(X) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
(X) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
Maybe it's both (Score:5, Funny)
Cum with me if you want to live
Buh-bye karma!
It's just a machine (Score:3, Funny)
It doesn't feel pity or remorse, and it will absolutely will not stop, ever...until our disks are full.
Re:Botnet is obviously now self-aware (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Life in Jail, or Capital punishment (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This type of thing is only going to continue (Score:5, Funny)
Surely Joe the Plumber of all people should know how the tubes work?
Re:No spam for 5 days. (Score:4, Funny)
None ? That's weird... What's your address again ?