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Nvidia Problems Hit HP Desktops 141

Barence writes "HP has revealed faults with 38 different models in its slimline PC range, sparking speculation that Nvidia's faulty GPU problems have spread beyond laptops. HP's official statement says the problems are 'attributable to the computer's motherboard" and that affected machines 'may not boot or may not display video' — the same kind of terminology used to describe the previous faults with laptop GPUs. Both HP and Nvidia have declined to comment. But in a filing to the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) earlier this year, Nvidia admitted 'there can be no assurance that we will not discover defects in other MCP or GPU products.'" Note: the linked story (updated since this submission) says that Yes, the problems are now confirmed to be rooted in the Nvidia GPUs.
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Nvidia Problems Hit HP Desktops

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  • Re:who... (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @09:23AM (#25367711)

    Captain Linguistics to the rescue!

    "something concerning ventilation" is a hyperonym of "fan control" (which, in this case, is the hyponym). Your intervention is equivalent to saying "wtf, how will higher gas prices affect road vehicles? Or did you mean 'cars'?".

    tl;dr: fan control qualifies as "something concerning ventilation".

  • ARGH! (Score:1, Informative)

    by d3ac0n ( 715594 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @10:04AM (#25368281)

    Look, I know this is offtopic and all, but the expression is "That's the BREAKS". NOT BRAKES!

    Brake(s)
    1. a device for slowing or stopping a vehicle or other moving mechanism by the absorption or transfer of the energy of momentum, usually by means of friction.
    2. brakes, the drums, shoes, tubes, levers, etc., making up such a device on a vehicle.

    Break(s)
    1. Informal.
    a. an opportunity or stroke of fortune, esp. a lucky one: That's a lucky break!
    b. a chance to improve one's lot, esp. one unlooked for or undeserved: Thanks for giving me this break.
    2. the breaks, Informal. the way things happen; fate: Sorry to hear about your bad luck, but I guess those are the breaks.

    Sorry to go offtopic, but I see that misuse is so many otherwise intelligent arguments. The worst part about it is that it utterly ruins the argument because it makes the person writing the argument appear ignorant.

    So please, get the expression right.

    /grammernazi

  • by vally_manea ( 911530 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @10:08AM (#25368341) Homepage
    I totally agree about the binary ATI drivers - they suck bigtime, but the open source one is progressing quite nicely, more info here http://www.radeonhd.org/ [radeonhd.org]
  • by Ostracus ( 1354233 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @10:09AM (#25368367) Journal

    "Los Angeles (CA) â" A tiny material issue in Nvidiaâ(TM)s GPUs has cost Nvidia $200 million so far: The problem boils down to the solder bump material, in Nvidiaâ(TM)s case high-lead that was used in all of the firmâ(TM)s GPUs that were produced until late July , and we still do not know how serious the issue really is. According to our sources, Nvidia has switched to eutectic solder bumps in recent weeks and there is now a new, apparently independent research report, that claims that eutectic solder bumps, which are used for example by AMDâ(TM)s ATI unit, may live much longer than high-lead versions. Of course, switching to eutectic isnâ(TM)t the entire solution, as the material has a much lower melting point than high-lead."

    http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/39506/135/ [tgdaily.com]

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @10:16AM (#25368485)

    You do know that ATI/AMD have been releasing full documentation to their GPUs and hiring key Xorg driver developers - so the binary blobs may not be an issue soon? There is even 3D support already for the R5xx series.

  • Re:Don't worry. (Score:5, Informative)

    by fuzzyfuzzyfungus ( 1223518 ) on Tuesday October 14, 2008 @10:20AM (#25368543) Journal
    Fair enough. The SEC filing, while somewhat vague, was honest as far as I know. I was referring to the original claim, back when this story was starting to show stress fractures, that only certain HP notebooks were to blame(with vague intimations that HP engineering had fucked up). That was before Dell admitted problems, and just recently Apple put out an advisory [apple.com] to the effect that Nvidia had told them that all was well; but they had determined otherwise.

    I strongly suspect that Nvidia did their best to not lie to the SEC, given the potential penalties for doing so; but they haven't exactly overdone the honesty elsewhere.

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