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Stupid Hacker Tricks - The Folly of Youth 226

N_burnsy points out an article in Computerworld which "profiles several youthful hackers, some still serving prison time, some free, who have been caught indulging in some fairly serious cybercrime, and looks at their crimes and the lessons they have (or have not yet) learned. Starting with Farid 'Diab10' Essebar, currently a guest of the Moroccan prison system, who wrote and distributed the Mytob, Rbot, and Zotob botnet Trojans. There's Ivan Maksakov, Alexander Petrov, and Denis Stepanov, all guests of the Russian penal system, sentenced to eight years at hard labor for creating a botnet to engage in DDoS (distributed denial-of-service) attacks to blackmail online gambling sites based in the UK, threatening to take the sites down during major sporting events. Then there's Shawn Nematbakhsh who was a little too eager to prove a point about the electronic balloting system that the University of California employed to hold student council elections, by writing a script that cast 800 votes for a fictitious candidate named American Ninja." Not everyone on the list is exactly youthful, and the range of offenses shows how lumpy this area is both to the law and in public perception.
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    • Thanks, It was really annoying looking at that tiny sliver of a text-column, and the corresponding 5 pages that they made a relatively small article.
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      I feel kinda inadequete. Back when I was a kid, I read some outdated article on DoSing, so decided to open 20 command prompt windows pinging a server over my dial up connection.

      It didn't go down. =(

      ~Jarik
  • Student elections? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Nursie ( 632944 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @08:52AM (#23310820)
    University student imprisoned for interfering in University council elections as a way to expose how bad the voting system is?

    There is no justice in the world. That kid should have been given a fucking medal.
    • by Nursie ( 632944 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @08:54AM (#23310844)
      OK, I have now RTFA'd. He still should have been given a medal rather than a conviction.
    • by chuckymonkey ( 1059244 ) <charles@d@burton.gmail@com> on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @08:55AM (#23310848) Journal
      Mod parent up. He really didn't do much that was malicious, hell he even made up a fake candidate so that it would sway the election for a real candidate. All the guy did was prove that the system they payed so much money for was crap, but we can't have that now can we? It would displease our corporate overlords.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by Intron ( 870560 )
        No - mod both you and OP down for posting without reading the article. He wasn't imprisoned. He had to pick up trash and pay costs. The system worked just about right.
        • by neomunk ( 913773 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @09:39AM (#23311272)
          Yes, we should make those who point out the gaping holes in our society (which could very easily be used against us, and possibly already have) PAY!!! Humiliate them by the side of the road for the outlandish gall of trying to expose the truth, when it might inconvenience one of his upper-caste betters.

          • by Intron ( 870560 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @09:47AM (#23311352)
            You aren't looking at the big picture. Imagine what calamity would have ensued if American Ninja had been elected to Student Council. Slaughter at Homecoming. Beheadings at Pep Rallies. Eviscerations at the Winter Ball.
          • by langelgjm ( 860756 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @10:40AM (#23311926) Journal

            we should make those who point out the gaping holes in our society

            Except that he explicitly says he was doing no such thing in TFA:

            "I really wasn't making any point at all," Nematbakhsh admits, debunking news reports to the contrary. "It was a senior prank, a silly thing."

            If he had really been interested in fixing the flaw, he could have brought it to the administration's attention in a much better way that would have avoided him having to do community service, and not screwed up the election.

            Your point is still valid, though. When I was an undergrad, a friend of mine discovered that the primary key to the LDAP student/faculty directory was the same number that was encoded on our ID cards, the result being that we could create fake ID cards for anyone in the directory (and thus gain their building privileges, have access to the accounts linked to the card, etc.). He went to the administration with the information, and they reissued cards to the entire student body. Then, they proceeded to start a judicial investigation against him. Thankfully, nothing ever came of it, but it does show the tendency of institutions to punish those who are actually trying to help them.

            • I wonder if the guy ever heard something like "If you say it was just a prank we won't send you to jail."
            • by neomunk ( 913773 )
              I think some people, even when doing the right thing, like to do it with dramatic flair and style (American Ninja!?!). I guess that's frowned upon while pointing out maladministration, but remember it's highly encouraged in today's society as a whole.
          • by clodney ( 778910 )
            You are saying that he couldn't have pointed out the gaping hole in any other way. Say, by sitting down with someone from the student newspaper and demonstrating the hole with one or two bogus votes?

            That would be responsible. Thousands of votes is somewhere between stupid and vandalism. He even admitted it was nothing more than a prank, with no particular goal of exposing an insecure system.
            • by neomunk ( 913773 )
              I don't see the big practical difference in what you suggest and what he did. Now, if he had made HIMSELF (or any other real person, including real candidates) WIN the election in order to 'prove a point' or even 'commit a prank' then I would be just as vocal as anyone in screaming about this kid's level of stupid. He didn't though, he made it obvious, and thus did nothing that really undermines the election (except (false)confidence that shouldn't be there in the first place).
          • by hey! ( 33014 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @12:24PM (#23313320) Homepage Journal
            Except that he admitted he wasn't really making a point, even though if he had the point would be a good one. And if he had been making a point, the punishment would be reasonable.

            The point of civil disobedience is not to avoid being caught. It is to be caught in a way that proves the system is corrupt. Punishment is critical to the effectiveness of civil disobedience as a strategy to change the world.

            It's also critical for holding back the tide of unthinking self-righteousness in the world. If good intentions were an absolute defense, there would be no end to the crimes people would commit with complete assurance they are on the side of right.

            Giving this guy a slap on the wrist is the right thing to do; it serves the purpose of having the rule without doing more damage than breaking the rule did. The rules are there for the guidance of the wise and the protection of fools. The wise might choose to accept punishment in service to a higher cause; the foolish shouldn't be punished more than is necessary to set them on the right track.
            • by neomunk ( 913773 )
              Your argument is well reasoned. I will consider your point of view, and may come back to comment if I have any thing to add. The only thing I'd like to add now (my time just became brief) is that I don't know if I trust the whole "just a prank" bit, as I can very easily see the authorities giving him a choice between prank (slap on the wrist) or political statement (threats of terrorism charges, put on airline watchlist, etc.).

              That's an aside though, and your reasoning is strong even without that bit. I'
          • Ok so (Score:3, Interesting)

            by Sycraft-fu ( 314770 )
            If I come and expose the gaping security holes in your house, you'll be ok with that? If you come home and find me milling around in your living room or rifling through your things, you won't get mad right? After all, I was just exposing the security holes, I didn't do any harm!

            If you aren't ok with me going through your things without permission, I'd have to ask why you are ok with with breaking in to someone else's stuff. You can't have it both ways, if your stuff isn't fair game, why is their stuff fair
        • Thanks for saying that.
          Just shows that even moderators have not RTFA :)
      • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

        by cpricejones ( 950353 )
        But really, who would not want a student council rep who could flip out and kill someone.
      • by Rary ( 566291 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @10:03AM (#23311508)

        All the guy did was prove that the system they payed so much money for was crap, but we can't have that now can we? It would displease our corporate overlords.

        Yes, he was such a noble crusader....

        "I really wasn't making any point at all," Nematbakhsh admits, debunking news reports to the contrary. "It was a senior prank, a silly thing."
    • by Lonewolf666 ( 259450 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @09:20AM (#23311058)
      If even harmless hacks are illegal and may land you in jail, only serious criminals will take the risk (for serious potential money gains).
      I think that is why there are less reports about benevolent hackers pointing out security flaws these days, but lots of reports about botnets for spamming and DDOS activities.
      • by Lumpy ( 12016 )
        The problem is with Computers, a prank and embezzling 90,000,000,000 dollars and killing 80 people get you the same sentence so ALL things done on the net need to be treated the same. The biggest problems I see are that everyone that did this stuff, including mitnick back in the day, did stupid newbie mistakes and that is how they got caught.
        When you get cocky you get caught.

        also....

        and the range of offenses shows how lumpy this area is both to the law and in public perception.

        I am not sure how I g
    • by smittyoneeach ( 243267 ) * on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @09:21AM (#23311066) Homepage Journal
      Student election?
      Blade/face bijection
      Halt candidate/follicle
      Ninja insurrection
      Burma Shave
    • Instead the taxpayer loses by having to pay to keep him and he loses even more by being imprisoned - the only winner is somebody whose conviciotn numbers have gone up by one more by locking up a prankster because that is easier than dealing with actual dangers to society. People should realise that their taxes would be lower or spent on something other than petty revenge without mismanagement such as this. Unfortunately hard line law and order gets votes while valuing the rule of law and thus not being in
      • The above was a bit too late at night and a rant plus a bad pun looking for a slightly different story.

        One thing that really has hit me in the past however is the inappropriate almost military level responses to computer crime in several cases. For example, a few years back the DVD Jon raid involved an international paramilitary team to catch a single unarmed teenager.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by MrJSuppish ( 1235718 )
      If I recall correctly, the kid used those 800 votes by using other people's names, and by doing so, removed their ability to vote in the election. So, perhaps not the best way to go about it.
    • Well he wasnt imprisoned but i personally dont get why any of them were. The blackmailer maybe, but locking the guy up for scanning cisco routers for default passwords, hes no danger to society hes just wasting taxs by being locked up.

      Its pathetic, save jail for people who are a threat to society not somebody who 'cracks' a router.
      • The blackmailer maybe, but locking the guy up for scanning cisco routers for default passwords, hes no danger to society hes just wasting taxs by being locked up.

        If you find an unlocked door, are you in the habit of walking inside and lifting any credit cards or cash you find lying about? I mean, you totally shouldn't go to jail for THAT, you don't know how to pick a lock, you're no danger.

        • If you find an unlocked door, are you in the habit of walking inside and lifting any credit cards or cash you find lying about? I mean, you totally shouldn't go to jail for THAT, you don't know how to pick a lock, you're no danger

          In this country (UK), im fairly sure i wouldn't you have:
          be a flight risk
          be a danger to society
          refuse to do other punishments
          to waste taxes on your ass. But then again IANAL and this is just what a friend told me.
          If your dumb enough to leave your door unlocked it doesnt make my actions legal but it does make them a lot less malicious, i mean if you find a $100 note in the street do you go to the station and hand it in?

          • I'm going to reply to the only part of your post that makes any sense--the final sentence. Unlawful entry is a whole different ballgame than simply finding $100 on the street. One is trespassing with the intent to commit crime. The other is finding a relatively small amount of cash (difficult to find the original owner) in a public place.
            • sorry the 1st part is just stating of my countries IMHO sane laws (unfortunatly thier not followed all the time).
              My point with the last section is where do you draw the line between locking somebody up and slapping them on the wrist.

              I really dont thing that locking on to some server is that bad, give the kid a fine and get him to do some community service instead of locking him up where
              1) He's costing you money
              2) He's mixing with criminals
    • The funny part is his own quote -

      "Getting caught was kind of a wake-up call, that the Internet was not some kind of playground and I couldn't do what I wanted to all the time. I had to obey the law. The prank was not well received by a lot of people at the school."

      He acts as though what he did was actually traced back to him via the Internet... he didn't get busted as part of some kind of brilliant cyber-sleuthing... he got busted because he bragged about it and word got out. If you want to do that kind of thing you're better off keeping your mouth shut.

      The whole thing is silly anyway... they're student elections. At a big school they're just a contest to see who has the most friends / friends of friends.

  • Typo in TFA (Score:4, Insightful)

    by sm62704 ( 957197 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @08:53AM (#23310834) Journal
    OK, if you're happy and carefree it no longer means you're gay unless you're homosexual, and hackers are now criminals who break into computers. Even the tech press is calling cyberglars* "hackers". Even slashdot, who should have striven to maintain the word that used to be a badge of honor back when nerds were being rediculed, uses "hacker" like the ignorant lusers do.

    So what's the new word for someone who writes quick and dirty code that actualy runs, or changes a transistor radio into a guitar fuzzbox?

    BTW, if you wrote TFA shame on you! the proper word is "script kiddie", cyberglar, cyber burglar, "computer criminal". Not "hacker" for God's sake. Just because Joe Sixpack thinks a "hacker" is a criminal and RAM is a brand of truck doesn't mean we should share in their ignorance.

    "I used to be a gay hacker, now I'm only a happy nerd" :(

    -mcgrew

    *Yes, I just coined that word. So sue me.
    • So what's the new word for someone who writes quick and dirty code that actualy runs, or changes a transistor radio into a guitar fuzzbox?
      I vote we call them all "The One". Let's see them bastardise that!
      • by neomunk ( 913773 )
        This should be fun...

        Let's do a quick headcount. "Who here is The One." *counts about 50,000 slashdotters before giving up*
        That's alot of The One(s). Next we need to somehow semantically link "The One" with 'There can be only One" and munch popcorn as the epic geek-fight (with interesting gadgets!) ensues.

        Good idea somersault, have some of my imaginary popcorn for your efforts.
        • I hope it's butterscotch.. if only my imagination were as powerful as yours I could make it so!

          There can only be one one - though one squared is still one, and 1 ^ 50,000 is still one, so I think we'll be okay, somehow. The geek fight is a good idea though. My weapon of choice is an Amiga A1000, maye with a 21" CRT for backup (only really good for when you're above your opponent of course)
      • by sm62704 ( 957197 )
        Hey, I like that! And we could call the lusers "zeros!"

        On3s and zer0s. You have my vote!
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      Your really insightful comments are overshadowed by your "gay" comments.
      I have mod points and I didn't know what to do. I thought I'd give advice instead of modding:
      Stick to the point.

      I know I'm off-topic.
      • Re:Typo in TFA (Score:5, Insightful)

        by PRMan ( 959735 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @10:34AM (#23311844)

        That was the point. Like it or not, people who used to be "gay" in a non-homosexual sense are no longer able to use that word that way. "Dick" was a common name when Batman and Robin came out in the 40s (and Dick Tracy), now nobody would call their child "Dick". Language changes whether we want it to or not.

        "Hacker" has become something that benevolent hackers can no longer call themselves, no matter how we feel about it.

        • The unfortunate thing is that it's a complete loss of a word.

          "Gay" doesn't bother me so much, because it has synonyms. I can still call myself "happy", "merry", "gleeful", "cheerful", etc, depending which is appropriate.

          "Hacker", or "hack", in the proper usage, really has no synonyms. "Codemonkey" doesn't fit, because hacking isn't limited to programming -- there are hardware hacks. "Modder" doesn't fit, because a hack can be an entirely original creation. And neither of those give the sense of slapdash/gen
        • You mean now I have to change my Nick, because of the clueless masses?

          No thank you, I'll continue to call myself a hacker and continue to hack radio controlled cars into drinkbots, collect, demolish and reconstruct all manner of mad science electronics and yes, even hack my computers. What do I care what the ignorant masses think, and if they fear me, then so much the better. I've been hacking for nearly 40 years, and I'm not going to give up the word so easily.

          And yes I tilt at Windmills.

          I don't care if I
      • by sm62704 ( 957197 )
        I hope by "gay" you mean "happy and carefree". I referred only to the fact that a word was changed completely from its original meaning to somthing that has no resemblance whatever. The word "gay" was changed from "happy and carefree" to mean, ironically, a member of a group of people whom half of commit suicide, while "hacker" was similarly bastardized. The only difference is that "gay" was deliberately changed by a group with an agenda, while "hacker" was changed by witless ignorance.

        As to gays themselves
    • Re:Typo in TFA (Score:5, Insightful)

      by JaredOfEuropa ( 526365 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @09:21AM (#23311060) Journal

      Even the tech press is calling cyberglars* "hackers". Even slashdot, who should have striven to maintain the word that used to be a badge of honor back when nerds were being rediculed, uses "hacker" like the ignorant lusers do.
      In other words, pretty much everyone save a few die-hards refers to "crackers" as "hackers" now. That's how languages evolve; trying to go back to the original meaning of the word would be as pointless and futile as Hormel's attempt to disassociate the word Spam from unsollicited emails. Or, taking your example, as futile as trying to get "gay" to mean happy again.
      • pretty much everyone ... refers to "crackers" as "hackers" now.

        What does skin color have to do with technology?

    • BTW, if you wrote TFA shame on you! the proper word is "script kiddie", cyberglar, cyber burglar, "computer criminal". Not "hacker" for God's sake.

      I never understand this strange attachment people have to word definitions. Give it up, the word also means "computer criminal".

      Just because Joe Sixpack thinks a "hacker" is a criminal and RAM is a brand of truck doesn't mean we should share in their ignorance.

      This is the thing I also don't understand. "Joe Sixpack" is the guy defining the language, not people
      • "Joe Sixpack" is not entirely the guy defining the language, not as long as people in universities and members of the upper-middle and upper classes get to exercise preferential treatment toward people who speak like them. If Joe Sixpack wants little Joey Sixpack to get into a good college and improve his status, he'll make sure that Joey lurns to tawk purty.

        There are many institutional gatekeepers in this world, and we use the mastery of standard English as a basis for making distinctions about who gets to

        • not as long as people in universities and members of the upper-middle and upper classes get to exercise preferential treatment toward people who speak like them.

          Heh. This just kills me. If you really want to know who has the most control over language, it's the writers and people on television. Those people are sometimes the "upper classes" and sometimes the "joe sixpack". They're rarely a University instructor, or "expert" on the subject at hand. My point is simply to refute the idea that More Knowled
    • by caluml ( 551744 )

      if you're happy and carefree it no longer means you're gay unless you're homosexual
      And if you're homosexual, but unhappy, and with lots of worries? *

      Hetero, and fairly content, btw.
    • Or the old, tried and true "cracker".
      • by sm62704 ( 957197 )
        Hell, I wouldn't mind if it was spelled "crhacker". But clearly we need a new word for what "hacker" was before the world's ignorants changed its meaning.
    • *Yes, I just coined that word. So sue me.

      So I am unclear; are you for or against the evolution of language? ;)
  • Watch that ass in prison.
  • that tom hanks/ leonardo decaprio movie about frank abagnale serves up the most useful point about guys like these:

    1. convict them and put them in prison
    2. take them out and convert their sentence into useful work for the federal government. if they f**k up, back in the hole they go

    when some guy finds a chink in a voting system and exploits it, yes, he's done wrong, but he's also done society a service, no matter what his intentions were. this doesn't necessarily need to be rewarded, but it does need to be recognized as useful work in pursuit of a useful goal for society. these individuals, however morally and ethically flawed, still have use to society

    what they need is supervision, like frank abegnale, and skills that previously went to petty vandalism and self-indulgence at the expense of society can instead be converted into useful work for society. these individual must be supervised, since their ability to form ethical and moral decisions has obviously been shown to be severely compromised, but you will note that frank abegnale today is currently very wealthy and quite the free man, and all of his current wealth accumulated through honest work. rehab is not only possible, but it is also profitable, for the individual who needs an ethical and moral correction, and society at large
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by argent ( 18001 )
      3. You've taken a job away from an honest man and given it to a crook.
      4. The other half million blokes in prison still get to rot.

      Perhaps it might make more sense to attack the problems in the prison system at a lower level?
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        3 - Perhaps. But you've also taken a job away from someone who may or may not be good enough and given it to someone who definitely is good enough. Two sides to every coin (and since I highly doubt the non-criminal would be getting the same kind of supervision you could argue that the job is brand new, for the criminal, and therefore you're not taking it away from anyone.) You could also use the job as a form of community service, paying them less but allowing them to stay out of jail on good behavior, whic
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Torvaun ( 1040898 )
        What honest man has that intimate of knowledge of how check fraud is done? There is no amount of studying that can make up for a complete lack of practice.
        • by Lumpy ( 12016 )
          Every banker and financial person so they know what to look for.

          Cripes you Should also know how counterfeiting is done so you can look to see if you are getting passed bad $20's and $100's.

          Being an uneducated dork is not way to go through life.
          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by Torvaun ( 1040898 )
            I'm sorry, my post didn't include the word "should". Yes, lots of people should know what to look for to catch check fraud or counterfeit money. My question was who -does- know, and the answer is the criminals for whom getting it right wasn't the difference between passing and failing a test, it was the difference between freedom and prison.
      • "3. You've taken a job away from an honest man and given it to a crook."

        a crook can't steal a job from an honest man if the job in question doesn't exist. the crooks in question here are doing jobs no one else is doing. otherwise, their exploit wouldn't exist

        "4. The other half million blokes in prison still get to rot."

        yes, which is exactly what they deserve. robbing banks and raping women isn't very new or very interesting. discovering a technological exploit no one else is doing IS interesting and useful
    • Yes, but Frank Abagnale is now rich and successful BECAUSE of his life of crime, not in spite of it.
      • he was caught, rehabilitated, and then he earned his money honestly

        yes, if he didn't pursue a life of crime, he wouldn't have a penny today. but that's only half the story

        equally true: if he wasn't caught and rehabilitated, he would be living dishonestly off of his ill-gotten gains in a pension house in rio de janiero, or, more likely, be rotting in prison in france or somewhere else
    • by sorak ( 246725 )

      that tom hanks/ leonardo decaprio movie about frank abagnale serves up the most useful point about guys like these: 1. convict them and put them in prison 2. take them out and convert their sentence into useful work for the federal government. if they f**k up, back in the hole they go

      So he saw an issue in the voting system. He could have sold the election to the highest bidder, but instead, he demonstrated the flaw to everyone. His reward? We stick him in prison and use him for slave labor.

      • and i'm showing how it is possible to salvage his "contribution". he did engage in smarmy vandalism of the process you know. that means he does deserve to be punished in one form of another. but not so severely of course, and not without recourse to salvage his skills for the good of society, rather than teenaged pranks
    • by daigu ( 111684 )

      I'm sorry, but government has no place converting people to "useful" work or "supervising" them. Further, government isn't ethical or moral. No organization is ethical or moral, because these are qualities of human beings - qualities that more frequently get subverted by government than they are by "petty vandalism" or "self-indulgence".

      Example: How many teenagers would know the experience of killing someone if they weren't engaged in doing so for the military?

      Thanks, but no thanks. I can do without th

      • or are you some sort of elaborate troll?

        i can't conceive that you would actually think like that

        "Example: How many teenagers would know the experience of killing someone if they weren't engaged in doing so for the military?"

        uh, PLENTY, moron

        ever hear of a gang?

        do you live on this planet?

        if you are just trolling me, i have chomped hard

        please tell me you don't actually believe what you say:

        "No organization is ethical or moral, because these are qualities of human beings - qualities that more frequently get su
        • by daigu ( 111684 )

          The incidence [fbi.gov] of murder in the United States was 16,528 in 2005 of 5.5 per 100,000 inhabitants. As you can see from the charts, less that 1,000 of those have known connections to gangs. If we assume this is an average, we are talking about ~100,000 in a population of more than 300 million.

          Contrast with conservative Iraqi war casualty [csmonitor.com] estimates. We have 151,000 people dead and an estimated 9 out of 10 as a result of U.S. military combat operations or ~135,000 in a population of slightly more than 28 millio

          • allow me to short circuit your entire thesis with the following dumb as bricks obvious observations:

            1. it is an absolutely inherent aspect of human nature to form organizations. you will never stop human beings from doing this, short of fundamentally altering human nature itself (thats scifi, btw, not reality). if you destroyed every government, religion, or other organization on the planet, new governments, religions and other organizations would spontaneously form to fill the vacuum. its completely unavoi
    • Somewhat off-topic but since you referred to Frank Abagnale I thought it might be interesting to share this speech by him I stumbled upon a few weeks ago [youtube.com].

    • Actually, a number of prominent hackers (yes, real Hackers), were made to do exactly that.
      I seem to recall some Real Big Guys were forced to tour schools and tell the little kiddies that Hacking is Bad.
  • Wrong vote (Score:3, Funny)

    by electricbern ( 1222632 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @09:18AM (#23311016)
    Shame on you Shawn Nematbakhsh, all respectable Slashdot-reading hackers know the fictitious candidate is always CowboyNeal.
  • by Rob T Firefly ( 844560 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @09:19AM (#23311032) Homepage Journal
    You know the fourth or fifth minute of any CSI episode, just before the Who song and the opening titles, wherein the cops are looking over the corpse of the week and one of them smirks and says something completely snarky and graveyard-humor-y about the whole situation to their appreciative chortling colleagues?

    This whole article is like that.
  • Pure genius (Score:5, Interesting)

    by hansraj ( 458504 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @09:19AM (#23311034)
    From TFA:

    Authorities were able to clearly identify Essebar as the author of the worm; not only had he signed it with the words "by Diabl0" buried in the source code, but he'd written the worm using Microsoft's Visual Studio, which embeds information about the computer on which the code is written into the compiled program -- in this case, the directory path "C:\Documents and Settings\Farid." D'oh!
    D'oh indeed!!
  • by Thanshin ( 1188877 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @09:25AM (#23311106)

    "[...]a fictitious candidate named American Ninja."
    Take that! you ninja lover. American Pirate shall prevail over your fake 800 votes.

    P.S. (on /. quote): "When you meet a master swordsman, show him your sword. When you meet a man who is not a poet, do not show him your poem. -- Rinzai, ninth century Zen master"

    I wonder what would that Rinzai guy show to a sexual predator.
  • I voted for American Ninja.
  • Morris was around 23 when he created his worm, and while he wasn't a teen, that was still a pretty young age.
    • by TheLink ( 130905 )
      Despite the Slashdot "summary" saying he is on the list, Robert Morris isn't even mentioned in the article.

      • OK, but I was referring to the summary using him as an example of a hacker that was not young, really had little to do with the article contents.
  • by davidwr ( 791652 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2008 @10:46AM (#23312026) Homepage Journal
    If you are over 45 and you never attempted to gain unauthorized access before you were 20, you either

    * were not skilled enough to avoid being caught and you knew it
    * had VERY good morals
    * didn't have an opportunity

    Before the mid-80s "casual" hacking was just as likely to get you a job as it was punishment. By the late '80s and '90s there were much better ways to prove you were good and too many people were misusing other's computer for purposes other than "because they could" or "because it was cool" or to save a few bucks on long distance phone calls.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    About a year ago I was playing a silly Flash game at a site belonging to Telstra, and after a few rounds got bored and fired up Wireshark to see how it logged the scores.

    I found the URL it used to post the scores back to the content server and, in a flash of idiotic curiosity, changed my score to some huge number, requested the URL and checked the scoreboard.

    It was quite thrilling to see my name at the top, with a score a hundred thousand points higher than the next person - then I realised I'd probably com
  • How about in the editor-tagged rejoinder about rtm, who is nowhere discussed in the article? Robert MOORE, Timothy, not Morris. Moving on to the actual article (is anyone actually discussing this, or is it all about the usual hacker-vs-cracker meme?)

    I found the article particularly annoying in its attempt to link the perps with animal torturers, its feeble pop-cultural references (Cavemen? from a Geico commercial?, and its breathlessly righteous neener-neener overall tone. Is it an Australian thing, that la
  • Did anyone actually read the blog posts [vitalsecurity.org] from the guy who put the "beatdown" on the 13-year-old hacker? Maybe I'm just too cynical, but it sounded like a bunch of hooey to me. The chat screenshots especially didn't ring true. A real story about putting a script kiddie in his place is at least mildly interesting, but a self-aggrandizing story of a fictional beatdown on fictional hackers (if that's what it is) is pathetic, at best.

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