Judge In e360 Vs. Comcast Rules e360 a Spammer 156
Brielle Bruns writes "Yesterday, Judge James B. Zagel dismissed claims against Comcast by e360. In the decision, the judge says: 'Plaintiff e360Insight, LLC is a marketer. It refers to itself as an Internet marketing company. Some, perhaps even a majority of people in this country, would call it a spammer.' This clears the path for Comcast's counter-suit." e360 is the spammer that got a default judgement against Spamhaus, as we have discussed on numerous occasions.
Re:What's the distinguishing characteristic? (Score:4, Informative)
In municipalities that provide trash collection, the government ends up paying that part of the costs of direct mail advertising.
Re:What's the distinguishing characteristic? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:What's the distinguishing characteristic? (Score:3, Informative)
energy to properly dispose of it. (hit delete)
Oh yeah, also if you have a decent spam filter you will RARELY get unsolicited emails.
There is NO DECENT FILTER for snail spam.
I can sort my snailmail spam from real mail in a couple seconds. With electronic spam I have to tweak filters and still end up deleting a good amount from my inbox which takes time.
Re:What's the distinguishing characteristic? (Score:5, Informative)
Still, the [i]majority[/i] of the costs are borne by the mailer, thus resulting in limites to the amount, and at least some specifivity. Not to mention that in order to get the best rates you have to identify yourself to the post office pretty well. This limits the amount of scamming that can be done as the scammers are normally stuck paying first class if they want to do anonymous drops. That increases costs to the point it has to be a very good scam or very selectively mailed if the scammer is to have any hope of making money and avoiding the postal police.
Re:What's the distinguishing characteristic? (Score:5, Informative)
This will block 90%+ of junk mail, and I actually signed up months ago. The only junk mail I get is a local free newspaper that just gets stuffed into every box regardless.
http://www.dmaconsumers.org/consumerassistance.php [dmaconsumers.org]
This thing is pure gold. It will block ALL of those "pre-approved" credit card offers. You know the ones, they come with a 29.99% APR, a $650 limit, and yearly fees? Well, at least the ones my wife gets do. I signed up on this thing and I haven't had a single one since.
https://www.optoutprescreen.com/ [optoutprescreen.com]
Re:What's the distinguishing characteristic? (Score:5, Informative)
Now I get essentially zero addressed junk mail.
Re:Official: e360 is a spammer (Score:4, Informative)
IANAL, but actually, that's not QUITE accurate. If Spamhaus had said to begin with that the US courts lacked jurisdiction, that would have been the end of it and e360 would not have won anything. However, Spamhaus claimed in state court that the suit belonged in federal court, thus acknowledging that the federal courts had jurisdiction. THEN they didn't bother to show up in court, and lost a default judgement.
Now, whether e360 can get anything out of them is another matter entirely, but they probably could have avoided the whole mess by denying the US courts had jurisdiction in the first place...
Re:What's the distinguishing characteristic? (Score:4, Informative)
One: Verisign signature.
Two: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/prescreen.shtm [ftc.gov]
FTC.gov page about the website.
There are also some blog entries around the web where people have had the same feelings about the website and it's possibility of fraud. As always, do your own research. But it looks legit.
~Wx
Re:What's the distinguishing characteristic? (Score:5, Informative)
and I get practically 0 junk mail... One place to call/visit, as opposed to haveing to call capital one... amex... etc. etc.
Re:What's the distinguishing characteristic? (Score:3, Informative)
It costs the USPS less to deliver junk mail than the mailer paid.
It costs the USPS more to deliver personal mail than the mailer paid.
Junk mail subsidizes personal mail.
Re:What's the distinguishing characteristic? (Score:3, Informative)
2. Feed junk mail to the goat
3. Drink the goat's milk.
4. Use the goat dung as fuel (Indian-style).
5. Eat the goat.
There are lots of good recipes for goat curry or jerk goat. They don't even mind the plastic envelope windows, and they save you the electricity that you would use to run a shredder.