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Griefers Assault Epileptics Via Message Board 621

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An anonymous reader tips us to a story up at Wired reporting on what may be the first computer attack to inflict physical harm on victims. Last Saturday, griefers posted hundreds of bogus messages on the support forums of the nonprofit Epilepsy Foundation that used JavaScript and strobing GIFs to trigger migraines and seizures in users. For about 3% of the 50 million epileptics worldwide, flashing lights and colors can trigger seizures. "'I don't fall over and convulse, but it hurts,' says [an IT worker in Ohio]. 'I was on the phone when it happened, and I couldn't move and couldn't speak.' ... Circumstantial evidence suggests the attack was the work of members of Anonymous, an informal collective of griefers best known for their recent war on the Church of Scientology. The first flurry of posts on the epilepsy forum referenced the site EBaumsWorld, which is much hated by Anonymous. And forum members claim they found a message board thread — since deleted — planning the attack at 7chan.org, a group stronghold."
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  • by TheSpoom (715771) * <slashdot@@@uberm00...net> on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:06PM (#22907036) Homepage Journal
    The members of Anonymous that did these hacks, if, in fact, that is who planned them, are likely not the same people protesting the Scientology organization.

    One of the things about Anonymous that makes it different than most groups is that there are no real leaders and that, due to its very nature, nobody really knows anyone else in the group short of a few people that they might know outside the anonymous forums (this is because on a lot of the boards that Anon originated on, posters are forced to post anonymously, hence the name).

    So it's really impossible to tell whether the people doing this are the same ones behind the masks at the protests.
    • by the_skywise (189793) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:07PM (#22907054)
      count on it.
      • by dosius (230542) <bridget@buric.co> on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:13PM (#22907108) Journal
        Some Anons say there is but one Anon.

        I express solidarity with the Anons who fight the CoS, but I refuse to accept the Internet Hate Machine as being the same Anonymous. It is why I said before and I say again: There are TWO Anonymous.

        -uso.
        • by WhodoVoodoo (319477) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:48PM (#22907390)
          this is not true. There is not One or Two anonymous, there is NO anonymous.

          It's not useful to associate "anonymous" as a group or entity. "Anonymous" is a completely chaotic, anarchistic, loose association. It is akin to race. There are (excuse this analogy) white people, and there are other white people who do bad things, and there are yet more white people who do good things. It is not useful to say "white people" are anything, except that "white people" came from europe and have a history of colonialism.

          It is exactly the same with "anonymous". Anonymous is simply a subset of most people in the world who use the internet, and there is a subse tof them who do other things, and a subset of THEM who attack things, and a subset of this which may have assaulted an epilepsy board. But none of them are really related beyond circumstance.

          The point is "anonymous" does not have any goals or means or anything. They don't even share interests, the only real connection is a mode of communication (and often web sites). Some anonymous coalesce to do things, like protest scientology or mess around on the internet, but they are not related except by modes of action. Attributing causal notions to this Anonymous is fallacy.
        • by Bert64 (520050) <bert AT slashdot DOT firenzee DOT com> on Saturday March 29, 2008 @06:13PM (#22907588) Homepage
          Or could it be that, due to the original anonymous group against scientology being well, anonymous, they are easy to impersonate...
          Thus, the second anonymous group attacking epileptics is actually compose of members of the church of scientology seeking to discredit the original anonymous group?
          • by FredFredrickson (1177871) * on Saturday March 29, 2008 @06:24PM (#22907660) Homepage Journal
            Mod parent up- Fact is that "anonymous" means nobody knows who did it. So blaiming the people who are attacking scientology for an anonymous attack is the same as blaiming every crime whose perpetrator is unknown on the group protesting scientology.

            It seems the only ones looking to benefit from making this connection would be the church of scientology itself, and this "article" just helps the scientology propaganda.
            • by aurispector (530273) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @08:06PM (#22908224)
              I think we can all agree that this incident is utterly and completely reprehensible. It's one thing for griefers to screw around with overly serious gamers or troll/flame discussion boards - no real harm done at the end of the day. To deliberately attempt to induce a seizure may be a criminal act.

              Considering recent events it does not seem likely that "Anonymous" would do it - their campaign is meant to expose CoS's alleged misdeeds; an altruistic motive. Blaming "Anonymous" doesn't make sense in this context.

              In these days of never ending spin and propaganda, the *first* thing to do when analyzing an event like this is to look carefully at who's ends are served by the fallout. The most likely culprits are either 1)some random asshole or 2)CoS. Of the two, who's ends are best served by this event?
          • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

            by Anonymous Coward
            Normally, I would say that's an interesting theory, but come on. Anonymous doesn't need any help in that department.
          • by TheSpoom (715771) * <slashdot@@@uberm00...net> on Saturday March 29, 2008 @08:53PM (#22908480) Homepage Journal
            This is more common than you might think; it has, in fact, been demonstrated that Scientology faked a bomb threat against themselves by Anonymous on YouTube earlier [youtube.com].

            An extension of their most certainly not dead Fair Game [wikipedia.org] policy, which states that Scientology critics, or "Suppressive Persons (SPs)", "may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."

            Scary stuff, especially for a group claiming to be a religion.
        • by STrinity (723872) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @06:44PM (#22907772) Homepage
          These aren't the real Anons. And no true Scotsman wears underwear beneath his kilt.
      • by ins0m (584887) <ins0mni0nNO@SPAMhackermail.com> on Saturday March 29, 2008 @06:00PM (#22907482)
        You bet. This sounds exactly like a false-flag attack to discredit Anonymous. They have already struck back once [godlikeproductions.com] after Anonymous sandbagged their servers with DDoS and Gigaloader attacks. Co$ has been twisted up since the 2/10 and 3/15 peaceful demonstrations. Now that the /i/nsurgents are under the tutelage of Gregg Hagglund, Tory Christman, and Mark Bunker, it's only going to be a matter of time before OSA kicks it into high gear to start tracking these kids down.

        This is just a salvo of an upcoming battle, the likes of which Co$ hasn't ever seen before. So long as Anonymous can remain decentralized and have more than one forum to communicate, this could be interesting to see play out.
      • by hedwards (940851) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @06:17PM (#22907628)
        This was largely my thought, how exactly do we know that these are actually people that are affiliated with that movement, and not just Scientologists looking to smear their adversary.

        Or equally likely a random collection of griefers that hit on the idea of doing a threefer.

        The "evidence" that they've cited at the end is extremely tenuous. It could be related to the Anonymous effort to end Scientology, some Scientologists themselves or just a random assortment of people looking to cause as much trouble as possible.

        The thing that I kind of have to wonder about is why people with epilepsy would be cruising the net without pop up, javascript and gif blockers on. Even if there weren't an attack of this sort, there are plenty of sites on the net with animations and such which could very easily trigger these sorts of symptoms.
      • by K8Fan (37875) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @08:09PM (#22908232) Journal

        Smear campaign by Scientology...count on it.

        Agreed. Anyone who doubts that they are capable of doing this needs to read about "Operation Freakout" [wikipedia.org] a campaign to destroy the career and mental health of journalist Paulette Cooper. Scientology's goons stole her stationary and sent bomb threats. She was only cleared after voluntarily submitting to questioning by the FBI under sodium pentothal.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by seebs (15766)
      I can't speak for the rest, but:

      * I don't post to the chans, and never really got the point.
      * I think this is pretty lame behavior, and wouldn't do it.
      * I am active in protests and activism against the CoS.

      I feel about this a little like I feel about the discovery that some Americans torture people to death. It's true, and I can hardly claim they're not really American, or that I'm not American. I also can't stop them or do anything about them, even though I really don't think they should do that.

      I'm more
    • by Anonymous Coward
      I saved a copy of the 7chan thread instigating the EFA attack before it was deleted. I had to mangle the formatting a bit to get it to post here on /., but here's the text (don't read if bad language offends you):

      File: 120624198932.jpg-(7.37KB, 196x200, 3doitfaggot1frtbwrsgbds.jpg)
      MIEN EYES Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:13 No. 2501134
      Epeleptic forum raid..
      1) Make account. 2) Spam flashing gifs, party hard etc. 3) Troll the userbase. 4) ??? 5)PROFIT!! CURRENT TARGET:http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/efforums/forum/
      Precious Javascript Weapon:

      window.location = "http://gilf.co.nr/myeyes"
      //-->

      ALWAYS WEAR A CONDOM!
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:14 No. 2501142 | this has potential for lulz and win.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:16 No. 2501165 | anon armed and ready.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:22 No. 2501208 | First good fucking idea I've seen in days. I'll be right over there once I'm done fapping on my bosses desk.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:23 No. 2501214 | Good principal, probably won't work in practice.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:23 No. 2501217 | this is relevant to my interests
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:25 No. 2501231 | Wait, their forums support Javascript? That means...they support HTML? FUCK this will be too easy
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:30 No. 2501289 | Haha. Holy fucking shit. I wrote that code...fuck that, Anonymous wrote that code. For Anon By Anon. The Javascript is a nice touch...I'ma go flood that shit now.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:32 No. 2501296 | >>2501134 }} oh wow, thats gotta be the best idea ive ever heard, well done.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:36 No. 2501322 | File: 120624335935.jpg-(67.39KB, 850x719, FreeInternet.jpg) By the time I got there, you have all already filled it with seizurebait. GOOD FUCKING JOB, ANONS, WELL PLAYED.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:37 No. 2501337 | I laughed really hard.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:38 No. 2501346 } someone get a cookie stealing script and post it on a legit thread, then hack the whole thing, give it epic flashing index.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:38 No. 2501352 | File: 120624350150.jpg-(32.28KB, 1138x48, 1206240592977.jpg) >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:39 No. 2501360 | >>2501352 }} lol'd
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:39 No. 2501366 | /r/ sticky
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:42 No. 2501388 | File: 120624374380.jpg-(5.90KB, 1030x41, epilepsy.jpg) also, requesting sticky
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:42 No. 2501395 | >>2501352 }} I fuckin lol'd hard
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:43 No. 2501400 | This is evil ;_;
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:43 No. 2501403 | OH GOD HOW DID I GET HERE IM NOT GOOD WITH COMPUTER
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:44 No. 2501409 | >>2501134 }} Hi I'm going to hijack your thread nao. Where did the Do It spider expert originally come from? Sadly despite months of lurking moar I have yet to figure out where I've seen this bitch before.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:44 No. 2501412 | The name pedrobear made me lol. +1 internet to whoever that is
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:44 No. 2501413 | this isn't funny my brother did that way. Also, sticky this, plox.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:44 No. 2501418 | >>2501413 }} died* I fail.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:47 No. 2501435 | I haert u so hard anon lol.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:47 No. 2501436 |
      window.location = "http://www.hey.doyouhaveepilepsy.com/"
      //-->

      Even better script
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:47 No. 2501438 | Ah god, I love you evil bastards.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:48 No. 2501450 | Is somebody DDoSing it too, cause it's getting slow as fuck
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:48 No. 2501451 | Best raid ever. This is the kind of revival Anon needs
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:49 No. 2501458 | RED IS THE WORST COLOR FOR EPILEPTICS. FUCK THE BLACK AND WHITE SHIT
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:50 No. 2501463 | >>2501450 }} We should. Where's the original or biggest thread right now, I want to see what anon is planning.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:54 No. 2501507 | STICKY
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:55 No. 2501512 | wut
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:56 No. 2501518 | DO NOT tell niggertits. they will fuck up everything
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:58 No. 2501533 | ahaha. this reminds me of my friend's ex. she's epileptic and we were eating a meal and i found out and i say "oh, I should have sent you WTFOMG". and she blocked me/stopped talking to me. ho ho ho
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:59 No. 2501536 | interesting that the epilepsy logo is red. i thought people had problems with that. guess not.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)20:59 No. 2501538 | File: 120624476973.jpg-(11.30KB, 400x270, epic.jpg) THE LULZ I CANT STANDS IT. anon, you've outdone yourself with this one.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:00 No. 2501547 | File: 120624482827.jpg-(28.63KB, 200x200, scruffy-second.jpg) >>2501518
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:01 No. 2501562 | I laughed so fucking hard . omg
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:03 No. 2501568 | >>2501538 }} YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU WAAAAAAAAAAN IIIIIIIIIT AAAAAALLLLLL BUUUUT YOOOOOUN CAAAAAAAN 'T HAAAAVE IIIIIIT!
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:03 No. 2501570 | internet superheroes
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:04 No. 2501576 | STICKY PLEASE
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:04 No. 2501578 | Holy shit anon, I've been ignoring this thread for the last couple hours thinking it raid fags...I was wrong. Excellent work.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:04 No. 2501582 | /r/ thread of relevance on the forum
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:05 No. 2501583 | File: 120624510295.jpg-(11.81KB, 200x198, 200px-Faith_No_More_-_Epic.jpg) >>2501568 }} BAWWWWWW
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:05 No. 2501586 | >>2501578 }} same here. I don't think its funny though, seizures must be fucking terrible to experience. Fuck you guys.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:05 No. 2501587 | >>2501582 }} Scratch that. I saw "pedrobear", lol'd, and realised.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:06 No. 2501597 | >>2501586 }} GB2/XENU/ MORALFAG
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:06 No. 2501598 | 20 views. I fucking lol'd. Enjoy your seizures.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:07 No. 2501613 | >>2501586 }} BAAAAAAAWWWW
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:08 No. 2501617 | Gaia Liberation Front made me lol
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:08 No. 2501624 | Internet Superheroes indeed, Anon.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:08 No. 2501626 | File: 120624532146.jpg-(44.57KB, 562x600, bill-clinton.jpg) >>2501597 >>2501613
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:10 No. 2501640 | WHICH spider expert SIGNED UP AS 7CHAN?
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:10 No. 2501642 | Someone go post this on 420chan's newly revived /i/.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:10 No. 2501645 | i love you anon bahahah
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:10 No. 2501646 | >>2501586 }} Allowing JavaScript and HTML that lets you produce flashing or colors is just a practical joke waiting to happen. Warning the admins might have worked, but that would be less lulzy. (Similar to how I warned the owner of a profile web site (not to be named) that you could read user's inboxes and delete things, but he ignored me, so I just fucked about with people's accounts, read his e-mail, etc.)
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:10 No. 2501647 | >>2501586 }} gtfo /b/, you stupid pussy.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:10 No. 2501648 | who the fuck made a thread called 7chan owns you?
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:11 No. 2501656 |
      window.location = "http://www.internetisseriousbusiness.com/"
      //-->

      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:11 No. 2501658 | File: 120624550922.jpg-(47.52KB, 461x303, picard-facepalm.jpg) >>2501640 }} Oh, what a fucking moron. Jesus christ.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:12 No. 2501667 | http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/efforums/forumAnonymousssageview.cfm?catid=12&threadid=63532&enterthread=y [epilepsyfoundation.org] you missed a page. rockin4jesus says we're gonna get smitten, or something.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:12 No. 2501670 | >>2501648 }} Way to ruin it you fucking åé¦(TM)è .
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:12 No. 2501671 | >>2501208 }} lol, busy day? >>2501450 }} someone? now who could that be? >>2501586 }} my friend has seizures and he loves it.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:13 No. 2501673 | File: 120624558746.jpg-(5.73KB, 100x100, 100100bang.jpg) >>2501648 }} god damnit. the lulz are over. way to go idiots.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:13 No. 2501676 | >>2501648 }} Whoever it is should kill themselves.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:14 No. 2501685 | Does it clean out the topic titles? If you could get the forum directories themselves to redirect somewhere without the people even going into a thread, that would be even more fucking win.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:14 No. 2501687 | File: 120624564722.jpg-(15.56KB, 293x300, michael_j_fox.jpg) This is an outrage. WE ARE GOING TO FIND YOU AND MAKE YOU PAY FOR THIS. I DON"T HAVE EPILEPSY, BUT CLOSE ENOUGH. YOU BASTARDS.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:14 No. 2501690 | File: 120624566262.jpg-(97.80KB, 1261x505, niggertits.jpg) Oh wow.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:14 No. 2501696 | File: 120624568498.jpg-(22.10KB, 300x418, love_hearts_lrg.jpg) >>2501667 }} 1. struck, as with a hard blow. 2. grievously or disastrously stricken or afflicted. 3. very much in love.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:15 No. 2501704 | looks like someone told NIGGERTITS and they decided to fool them into thinking 7chan did it.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:15 No. 2501705 | PREPARE FOR SHITSTORM. FULL THROTTLE CAPTAIN
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:15 No. 2501707 | >>2501690 }} :|
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:15 No. 2501711 | >>2501673 >>2501670 >>2501648 >>2501658 }} see: >>2501690
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:16 No. 2501722 | >>2501690 }} 4ailchan does what it does best. fail
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:17 No. 2501725 | File: 120624584463.jpg-(137.16KB, 800x600, arthur-conan-doyle-sherlock-holmes.jpg) >>2501711 }} no shit sherlock
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:17 No. 2501729 | File: 120624585737.png-(161.04KB, 1083x857, killyourselves.png) Those marked in read should FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:17 No. 2501732 | Time to request partyhard mode to drive away incoming cancer?
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:18 No. 2501740 | >>2501687 }} mj has Parkinson's you sage not epilepsy.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:18 No. 2501744 | >>2501690 }} Oh. Well played, NIGGERTITS. Well played. Thread over.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:19 No. 2501746 | >>2501732 }} seconded
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:19 No. 2501753 | >>2501740 }} READ THE TEXT
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:19 No. 2501754 | >>2501732 }} Good idea.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:20 No. 2501762 | >>2501740 }} facepalm.jpg
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:22 No. 2501769 | >>2501732 }} Time to request partyhard mode to drive away incoming Epileptic cancer trying to raid us back? Fix'd
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:22 No. 2501773 | I would suggest making threads saying "NIGGERTITS owns you" etc, but lets not stoop to their level.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:22 No. 2501776 | Demanding party hard to drive out 4ailfags.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:23 No. 2501778 | anonym.to/http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/efforums/forumAnonymousssageview.cfm?catid=2&threadid=64827&enterthread=y :D
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:24 No. 2501785 | PARTY HARD NAO
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:24 No. 2501788 | Oh WOW. I clicked into one of Pedrobear's posts. Party Hard mode has become an online weapon of mass destruction! I'm crying /b/. I.... *sniffle* I just love you guys..... *sob* so much!
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:25 No. 2501795 | File: 120624634649.gif-(46.35KB, 300x100, rotate.php.gif) the kids at f4al chan are talking about this lolo. we rock
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:26 No. 2501802 | epic win.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:29 No. 2501825 | That forum's already fucking toast. Anyone have the Gnarls Barkley "Run" video?
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:30 No. 2501828 | So... much... fucking... win... I love you, /b/. Also, /r/ing PARTY HARD as well.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:31 No. 2501838 | delicious premise
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:33 No. 2501851 | I can't wait till you they report you fags and arrest you guys for attempted murder.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:35 No. 2501869 |
      window.location = "http://www.worldspace.nu/=/anon_partyhard2.swf"
      //-->

      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:37 No. 2501884 | File: 120624704375.jpg-(182.94KB, 1280x800, lulz.jpg) dont open posts guyz! oh my eyes!
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:37 No. 2501886 | Hai guise how come whenever I go to my epilepsy support forum I feel like I'm gonna have a seizure?
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:38 No. 2501892 | >>2501851 }} SEIZURE V& COMING TO GET YOU.
      >> sage Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:39 No. 2501905 | withdraw forces and sage
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:43 No. 2501953 | wow this is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. but it's funny as hell.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:43 No. 2501954 | Funny. But if you fucks screw up 7chan for me I swear to god I will...
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:45 No. 2501971 | File: 120624752145.jpg-(52.48KB, 750x600, sudepmotivator.jpg) LOL in the sticky at the top of the SUDEP forum!
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:45 No. 2501972 | i wonder if there will be any fallout?
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:48 No. 2501996 | File: 120624771497.jpg-(7.62KB, 149x200, Nousign.jpg) >>2501905 }} pathetic.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:50 No. 2502027 | File: 120624785530.jpg-(132.24KB, 685x569, stop hammertime.jpg) STOP. Tis be the time of Hammer
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:52 No. 2502042 | >>2501972 }} lol NO. however many failchanners poast "7chan.org OWNZ U!!1!". This is an ebaums attack. As long as we're all clear on that point and honest when questioned, they can't pin a rap on us for what those ebaums hooligans have done.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:55 No. 2502088 | Aids? I haz teh epilipsy
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)21:58 No. 2502115 | File: 120624831794.jpg-(66.11KB, 663x647, whosonprofile.jpg) OH LAWD. can it be raid liek cancer tiem nao? commencing spread outside of forum and into personal accounts.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)22:00 No. 2502130 | File: 120624843216.jpg-(99.86KB, 750x600, Steroids.jpg) >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)22:04 No. 2502178 | Giant FS Michael J Fox gif anyone? You spider fuckers breaking rules 1 & 2 are niggering it.
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)22:05 No. 2502183 | File: 120624875233.jpg-(76.82KB, 640x644, hatemachine.jpg) >>2502115 >>2502130 }} Firin' up the Hate Machine!
      >> Anonymous 08/03/22(Sat)22:11 No. 2502236 | Can we start combing the site for emails for lulz at a later date?

    • Hello
      I couldn't help a loud laugh out while RTA. Again now: lol ! :-) The first thing comming to my mind is : "Attack on epileptics is quite nuts. But spreading a rumour that it's an anti-scientology group who did without solid justifications is completely nuts. That sounds tortuous enough to come from pro-scientology people". I mean scientologist are so twisted and ready to harass by any means the ones against them, that they could well have perpetrated all that. Regretfully this scenario matches pretty w
  • by Naughty Bob (1004174) * on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:07PM (#22907056)
    I am no supporter of Anonymous, but isn't it convenient for the Scientologers that their new-found enemy should suddenly be suspected of a such certoonishly evil assault.

    Two particular L. Ron Hubbard quotes are especially instructive in this regard-

    We are slowly and carefully teaching the unholy a lesson. It is as follows: We are not a law enforcement agency. BUT we will become interested in the crimes of people who seek to stop us. If you oppose Scientology we promptly look up - and find and expose - your crimes. If you leave us alone we will leave you alone.
    And-

    Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her crimes, known and unknown.
    Certainly makes you wonder...

    Also, Epileptics need to build themselves a Firefox plugin that'll detect any harmful behaviour, and block it Adblock-style. As the tech progresses this plugin could even be integrated into special sunglasses.... [hhgproject.org]
    • A few months ago when that crazy Tom Cruise video first appeared I wrote a comment about it on DailyMotion making a joke about Scientology. The next day our office phone number (listed at our registrar) had a call (on the caller ID) from the Church of Scientology the very next day. No one was around to answer and no one called back, but it can hardly be a coincidence since it was the first time before and after we ever had a call from them!!

      In other words, I do believe they would do something like you are suggesting.

      I also would expect another phone call from them tomorrow for this post :~(

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Naughty Bob (1004174) *
        I was sorely tempted to post anonymously (not the flashing lights kind) when writing the post.

        But bullies don't stop if you run away.
      • by JWSmythe (446288) * <jwsmytheNO@SPAMjwsmythe.com> on Saturday March 29, 2008 @07:41PM (#22908140) Homepage Journal
        Was it something like...

            How many Scientologists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

            damn, I don't have a punchline for that.

            I'm personally entertained that they *won't* talk to me.

            I was looking for work, and there was a scientologist owned company (the owners were scientologists, they weren't "owned" by the organization). My reasoning was, I've worked for a lot of different people who haven't converted me to or from anything, if they're paying a paycheck, I'll work for them.

            I showed up for the "interview", and was told there were some papers I needed to fill out. Fine. For past interviews, I've filled out application forms, NDA, etc, etc.

            They walked me into their conference room, and put a test in front of me. No big deal, Rackspace gives a personality test as part of their process too. I caught the L. Ron Hubbard name at the bottom, and I had spotted books on Management for Scientologists in the office, but this wasn't quite what I expected for an INTERVIEW. I caught the name of one of the tests on my camera phone while taking the tests.

            I'll summarize the tests as, they were a crappy excuse for personality and IQ tests, almost blatantly testing to if I would be easily converted to their cause.

            After I got home, I started researching what these tests were, both from questions I remembered, and from the name I caught on my phone.

            As I discovered, there are different scoring levels. Basically, the low end is people who are stupid and easily bent, but not worthwhile. The middle 80% is their target audience, with varying levels in the middle. The high end is where I'm sure I landed. While my personality is glowing in person, I'm not easy swayed to things without substantial facts and personal research. :) This high end, they are specifically instructed to have absolutely NO further contact with the individual. Hmmmm, how sad.

            Since they didn't reschedule the actual interview where I could talk to the boss (not just the receptionist/secretary), I emailed a week later just asking for my scores, out of curiousity. No response. Another week later, I asked again, no response. So I gave up.

            Really, it makes sense. If I got the job there, I may let them tell me all about Scientology, but I'm going to start poking holes in it, and eventually some or most of the people working there are going to start questioning things. You don't need blind faith disciples questioning things. Blind faith is a great thing until it's questioned.

            Hey guys, no offense. Everyone believes something, even if they believe in nothing.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by kesuki (321456)
      Anon and CoS activity really isn't fundamentally what Anon was founded for, it was founded for griefers.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer [wikipedia.org] the thing is Anon took griefing from video games into real life. before we called people who did that pranksters but the term griefing is much better since some people are so malignant towards their fellow human being that every way of causing others pain and suffering is 'cool' and 'hip' to them.

      so you can take your tinfoil hat off about CoS making Anon look bad, the
  • by Ethanol-fueled (1125189) * on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:08PM (#22907060) Homepage Journal
    Why did they go through all that trouble? They could have simply redirected 'em to Myspace [myspace.com].
  • Definitions please (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Matt Perry (793115) <perry.matt54@[ ]oo.com ['yah' in gap]> on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:09PM (#22907080)
    What the hell is a "Griefer?"
    • by garylian (870843) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:14PM (#22907120)
      See Wikipedia for a pretty complete explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer [wikipedia.org]

      In a nutshell, it's someone that does a deliberately obnoxious or destructive thing to another person, simply for their own personal entertainment.

      So, it's not exactly being used correctly. If it was done by Anonymous in response to a supposed threat, that was a premptive strike, not a griefing. If it wasn't anonymous, but simply someone that thought it would be funny, then griefing is a correct term for it.
  • by Spartan Niner (1264332) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:10PM (#22907082)
    Newbie griefers pretending to by Anonymous are caught posting from IP addresses associated with Scientology.
  • Of course (Score:5, Insightful)

    by PakProtector (115173) <cevkiv.gmail@com> on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:10PM (#22907088) Journal

    Obviously 'Anonymous' did this, because the Church of Scientology is so moral as to never stoop to breaking the law and framing others to remove a detractor.

    Just how they would never try to drive a critic to suicide or cause the death of one of their own due to denial of basic medical treatment.

  • Sickening (Score:5, Insightful)

    by wwwgregcom (313240) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:10PM (#22907092) Journal
    As an epileptic, I find this absolutely sickening. Although I have a very mild form that is not photosensitive, this is a terrible act. For some, seizures do have a small risk of sudden death. When I was first diagnosed, I found these and similar message boards to be an absolutely invaluable resource in finding comfort and support for what is an often incurable and sometimes still stigmatized disease. For me, these forums will never feel like the same safe haven that they used to be.
    • Re:Sickening (Score:5, Insightful)

      by taustin (171655) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:18PM (#22907160) Homepage Journal
      Given how trivial it was to conduct this attack, I have say that this forum didn't "used to be" a safe haven, it only seemed to be. Now, you have a clearer understanding of how the world really works.
      • by vertinox (846076) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:58PM (#22907470)
        Given how trivial it was to conduct this attack,

        Did someone forget to disable the [img][/img] tags on their PHPBB forum?

        To be fair, imagine what Slashdot would look like if you could post images.
        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by Scrameustache (459504)

          imagine what Slashdot would look like if you could post images.
          I'm thinking "goatse as a repeating background image"... DAMN YOU! You made me think of a mosaic of goatses!

          *cries*
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by jmv (93421)
      Install noscript, set the FF option to disable animated gifs, disable flash. It's save again.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Scrameustache (459504)

      As an epileptic, I find this absolutely sickening.
      That's the point ;-)
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      For some, seizures do have a small risk of sudden death.

      Actually I seem to remember there were two women posting on that message board who got killed by status seizures within weeks of each other, just a few months ago.
  • Maybe... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by SCHecklerX (229973)
    boards for epileptic support shouldn't be written with javascript and image upload ability in the first place? Just a thought. I don't recall ever having strobing marching penises coming out of the monitor at me when I read usenet all those years...
    • Chill dude (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:32PM (#22907284)

      I don't recall ever having strobing marching penises coming out of the monitor at me when I read usenet all those years...

      Obviously you were just in the wrong newsgroups.

    • Re:Maybe... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by MillionthMonkey (240664) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @06:01PM (#22907498)
      boards for epileptic support shouldn't be written with javascript and image upload ability in the first place? Just a thought.

      I almost bitchslapped you down as Overrated but decided to reply instead. Those boards are using standard PHP BBS packages off the shelf. They're already pretty buggy; on the EFA you keep getting immediately logged out, you keep losing posts, etc. Surprisingly epileptics don't tend to be experts at putting together crackerjack bulletin boards secure from unconventional cyberattacks that nobody anticipates, like asshats uploading strobe light movies. I guess they have to shut down their mailing lists, too, in case a Scientologist uploads an attachment.

      Most of the seizure-induced hallucinations I get while staring at a computer screen happen when I'm using Eclipse. Blocks of code start disappearing into blind spots or they fly across the screen but somehow remain at their home positions. It's actually kind of annoying because I know I have 20 minutes to check the shit in. Although it's visually-related epilepsy, it doesn't seem to be photosensitive so a trick like this probably wouldn't work. It's more shocking and insulting than anything. But one thing I will say about epilepsy is that you have to put up with a surprising amount of shit from people. [qj.net]
  • Very Neuromancer (Score:4, Interesting)

    by lobiusmoop (305328) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:13PM (#22907110) Homepage
    Reminds me of the terrorist attack by the Panther Moderns on Sense/Net in Neuromancer
    • More like... (Score:4, Interesting)

      by JaredOfEuropa (526365) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:17PM (#22907158) Journal
      More like Snow Crash [amazon.com], or even better: the short story BLIT [answers.com] by David Langford. This story immediately brought BLIT back to mind.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by dasunt (249686)

        The 'War against the Rull' by A. E. Van Vogt had that idea as well.

        "As he turned away, quite incidentally, accidentally, he glanced at the rock behind which he had shielded himself from possible direct fire. Glanced at and saw the lines on it. Intricate lines, based on an profound and inhuman study of human neurons. He recognized them for what they were and stiffened in horror. He thought, Where--where am I being directed?

        "That much had been discovered after his return from Mira 23, with his report of

  • If the past 15 years of strobing pages, CPU gobbling animated backgrounds, looped 'all keys disabled' rickrolling with an endless supply of modal dialogs weren't enough to convince you, perhaps this should be.

    Flash, you're next.
  • Seen This Before (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Ganty (1223066) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:16PM (#22907138)
    I've already seen this sort of thing before. About six years ago Reuters had a series of flash based adverts for BMW that produced a swirling pattern on the screen. This advert produced an epileptic fit in one of our users and when I sent an emergency email to Reuters the adverts were pulled.

    For someone to do this on purpose is kinda sick.

    Ganty
  • Riiight... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Zocalo (252965) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:17PM (#22907152) Homepage

    And I am supposed to believe that this is Anonymous branching out from their protest against Scientology, and not some asshat member of Scientology trying to give Anonymous a bad name because...?

    Anonymous has a beef with Scientology, and that is the sole extent of their agenda to date, so there is absolutely no reason for them to suddenly decide to launch an attack against epileptics. On the other hand there is every reason for Scientology to try and smear Anonymous in order to gain a more sympathetic ear in any future court actions against Anonymous. Given the track record Scientology has with the use of smear campaigns against people and organisations that try to stand up to them, I'd say it's pretty obvious what's really going on here.

    Oh, and expect incoming pro-Scientology astroturfers in 3... 2... 1...

  • Many computer security analysts have been screaming for years that there needs to be tighter security in applications and that law authorities need to do more against cyber crimes. As much as I don't want the law breathing down my back when I'm using the computer, it's time someone did something to stop stupid little script kiddies from pulling shit like this.

    Now that the line has been crossed, and hackers are using exploits to cause physical harm to people, I hope that this will be the wakeup call for
    • by nevali (942731) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:34PM (#22907292) Homepage
      Er, how about this: people who run websites need to be competent at it.

      Many forum software packages have the ability to selectively or globally disable the upload animated GIFs. Given that they're forums for suffers of epilepsy, you'd think it'd be fairly high up on the list given that photosensitivity is a well-known symptom.

      Similarly, a sticky forum post on "How to avoid a seizure when browsing the web" would be helpful. Links to Firefox plug-ins, and the like.

  • by mlwmohawk (801821) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:20PM (#22907172)
    I have a relative in the Fire Alarm business and he tells me about the restrictions on strobe lights on long corridors, they have to flash simultaneously because the random flashes could cause a seizure during a fire. I thought, "wow, that's right. I wonder if they actualy thought about it before hand, or if they wrote the regulation based on a real incident."

    Anyway, having that on my mind, I was looking at some of the more garish web sites and thought to myself, "I wonder if someone would construct a site that could trigger an epileptic seizure. Well, now we know.

    As for "Anonymous" be the same anti-scientology "Anonymous," I would bet with 99% confidence that if there is such an accusation, it is scientology that did it. We know "why" anonymous is going after scientology, whether you agree or disagree, they have a cause. The epilepsy incident has nothing to do with that cause, and furthermore undermines it. It only makes sense that since it undermines the cause of "anonymous," it was likely done by scientology since they are the ones with the actual motive.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by MoogMan (442253)
      Or maybe it was "Anonymous" after all, knowing that people would come to the same conclusion as you have, and blame Scientology.
  • by Toandeaf (1014715) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:24PM (#22907212)
    Maybe this is how Anon rolls on 7chan, but the Anon of 4chan simply does not work like this. Perhaps someone encouraged them, but usually such an idea would be met with accusations of using /b/ as a personal army. The raids I have seen always target pornographic webcams, racist radio shows, or rival internet groups such as Gaia. Anon may laugh at harm that happens on others, but they aren't actually malicious when it comes to their own actions. It is more their style to troll a dyslexia forum with garbled paragraphs. I suppose this could be the doing of a minority of truly evil people who take advantage of the anonymity, but this just seems too convenient of timing. I believe the Co$ is to blame for this.
    • by bersl2 (689221) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:36PM (#22907304) Journal
      I would tend to agree.

      I don't even think the hardcore /i/nsurgents would resort to something like this. I've started to look through a few of the places where this sort of this is discussed (the few I know about), and I haven't found anything. I think I might even leave them a note about someone doing this in the name of Anon, and how this undermines their long-term goals.

      However, I would not completely rule out a rogue newfag or two who thinks this is funny.
    • Dude, (Score:5, Funny)

      by DancesWithBlowTorch (809750) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:50PM (#22907408)

      Maybe this is how Anon rolls on 7chan, but the Anon of 4chan simply does not work like this. Perhaps someone encouraged them, but usually such an idea would be met with accusations of using /b/ as a personal army.
      What the hell are you talking about?

      Man, I thought I was 1337, but it seems those days are gone. Great, now what am I going to do when my dad finds out I don't understand the internet anymore?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:26PM (#22907228)
    Is that true?
  • by JustShootMe (122551) * <rmiller@duskglow.com> on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:26PM (#22907230) Homepage Journal
    Not the actual "attack" itself, of course. But immediately, someone mentioned "anonymous" and everyone knew who they were, that they had a beef with scientology, and that scientology was possibly behind it to discredit them.

    This shows that scientology is losing the PR war. They are completely out of their league when they can't actually identify and personally harass their detractors.
  • Next thing you know, someone claiming to be part of Anonymous will be posting pictures of pizza on weightwatchers forums, and pictures of beer on the AA forums.
  • Snowcrash? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Lt.Hawkins (17467) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @05:59PM (#22907476) Homepage
    Man, that's trippy. Assholy, but trippy. Never thought Snowcrash would come true! /me sharpens katana and looks for YT.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 29, 2008 @06:19PM (#22907636)
    Hello, Slashdot. We are Anonymous.

    Anonymous, peacefully campaigning against the Church of Scientology, condemn this attack.

    There is also little doubt that those who would attack a site such as this, and unprovoked, are the same 'Unnamed People' who covered the anti-Church of Scientology Campaign wiki page, Projecct Chanology on partyvan .info with the most horrendous filth porn and human gore imagery to be found online.
    It is possible that these were both orchestrated by anti-moralist members of 'the chans', but it is also not impossible that the 'Church's' online operatives managed to instigate this unprecedented attack to discredit the peaceful protesters.
    Perhaps 'the chans' do not realize they are being manipulated.

    Sadly anonymity is a catch all, literally anyone can and will say "I am Anonymous", even The Church of Scientology is "Anonymous" when they connect to public FTPs. You can not have the security of anonymity both inside and out, without the problems of defending against anonymous insurgents, just ask Wikileaks.

    Condolences to any harmed.
    This attack, as any violent attack, is condemned by Anonymous.

    Though the 'Church' will push this at every opportunity, it will feed their policy of ad hominem attack. It does not in any way negate the crimes of the 'Church', they cannot hide behind another.
    We will legally fight the corrupt pyramid scheme organization that is the Church of Scientology regardless.

    Knowledge is free.

    We are Anonymous.

    We are Legion.

    We do not forgive.

    We do not forget.

    Expect us.
  • by leereyno (32197) on Saturday March 29, 2008 @07:07PM (#22907926) Homepage Journal
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag [wikipedia.org]

    The cult is doing this to make Anonymous look bad.

    I used to be a Scientologist, and I can tell you based on first hand experience that this is EXACTLY what the cult would do.

    This is not the work of those who fight and oppose the cult of Scientology.

    The cult has already taken to creating fake videos and messages that appear to be from Anonymous and that contain threats of violence against the cult itself. This latest stunt is simply the next step in their campaign of demonizing Anonymous.

    The problem with Anonymous is that anyone can pretend to be part of the group. While they are highly resistant to efforts by the cult to target them as individuals, they are vulnerable to false-flag tactics such as this one.

    This is not the first time the cult has done this. Back in the 70's they targeted a woman for writing a book that revealed the evil nature of the cult. The cult responded by forging evidence linking her to a fake bomb threat, among other things:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Freakout [wikipedia.org]

    She was facing a long prison sentence until the FBI accidentally discovered that the cult had set her up while conducting another investigation

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White [wikipedia.org]

    Scientology is evil. It is something that most people who have never dealt with the cult have a hard time understanding or believing. To describe the nature of this cult to someone who is unfamiliar with it is very difficult because polite society lacks the terms needed to accurately convey the depth of evil found within this organization. It is also difficult because an accurate description defies belief. Most people are unable to contemplate something so evil actually existing in the real world.

    But scientology is that bad, and it is real. Its victims are a multitude and its crimes are horrific.

    But don't take my word for it, read up on it yourself:

    http://www.xenu.net/ [xenu.net]
    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/ [cmu.edu]

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