Airport Profilers Learn to Read Facial Expressions 676
nldavepc writes "There has been a rather scary development in airport security. Airport profilers are watching people's facial expressions for clues of terrorist intent. According to the article,"Travelers at Sea-Tac and dozens of other major airports across America are being scrutinized by teams of TSA behavior-detection officers specially trained to discern the subtlest suspicious behaviors.""
you think that is all? (Score:1, Interesting)
Predicted long ago (Score:5, Interesting)
-- 1984 by George Orwell
Racial Profiling (Score:5, Interesting)
"How are you today?"
"Where are you heading?"
"Is this all your property?"
"It's almost irrelevant what your answers are..."
This holiday, every person that I saw pulled out for secondary screening was an elderly black woman with a bunch of little kids.
Trouble with the police (Score:5, Interesting)
I was walking down the street late at night with a friend of mine. All of a sudden he yells out, "Crap!" and starts getting all agitated.
"What are you doing", I asked.
"Don't look! It's the police", he replied. "I always have trouble with them. Every time I see them they follow me and then I end up getting into a hassle."
I looked at him. Then I looked at the police. Then I waved at the police and they drove off.
"How did you do that??", he asked incredulously.
It never occurred to him that his nervousness was the only thing that way attracting the police's attention. For some reason he thought they had it in for him or something.
I suspect that there will be a lot more people being detained if nervousness is a reason to detain someone. There are just people who are nervous around authority figures. And since that nervousness usually gets them into trouble, they become even more nervous. Welcome to longer lineups at the airport...
Scary? (Score:3, Interesting)
Then again, I don't insist on wearing tinfoil hats. I WANT bad guys doing bad things caught. I guess I'm in the minority here on
Airport Security (Score:3, Interesting)
I hate airports to start with, and the added security and craziness makes me hate them more. So now, on top of that, my nervousness might be seen as terrorist attitude and I've got 1 -more- thing to worry about. Great!
I heard a rumor a while back... The rumor said that we have -never- found even a single terrorist with the security we have at the airports. Not one. Since then, I have never seen a news report that says we found a terrorist at an airport. There are reports of spoiled plots, but they never involve the airport itself... They are always stopped by law enforcement.
Has anyone got a news report they can cite to show we -have- found terrorists this way? Or are the airport security concerns just harrassing law-abiding citizens?
Re:Predicted long ago (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, I for one am not weary, or tired, of my rights at all. I'm weary of them being eroded, and I'm wary, or watchful, of anyone who says otherwise.
Re:"behavior-detection officers" (Score:2, Interesting)
1 in 100, how to measure success (Score:2, Interesting)
That means, out of 100 ppl they pinpoint with their special training, only 1% really is guilty of something, meaning they harassed 99% of the rest.
I think they should compare their results with just checking 100 ppl at random. Because a 1% success rate in my opinion in pretty weak.
Re:"behavior-detection officers" (Score:4, Interesting)
Oddly enough, we aren't the first country to do this, and those who have aren't totalitarian regimes. And as strange as it sounds, when done properly (admittedly, not likely given the "lowest pay and least training wins the contract" system used for American airport security) behavioral profiling is actually an effective security measure; even Bruce Schneier, a Slashdot favorite for debunking silly security theater, is in favor of behavioral profiling when done correctly [schneier.com].
Re:It's the MUSLIMS, stupid. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Airport Security (Score:4, Interesting)
Not a horrible idea. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:"behavior-detection officers" (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Trouble with the police (Score:1, Interesting)
"The sparrows are flying early this year"
quick as a flash the friend replied:
"But none are flying south"
With a cackling laugh I then turned round to shake his hand only to see a policeman staring at the both of us. He didnt say anything, but then it was a student town and we pretty much looked the part. Today, who knows whether we'd get away with it.
Re:I wonder if this is evidence-based at all? (Score:2, Interesting)
It's a natural evolution for former terrorists to become a politician.
Perhaps someone will define some terrorists as a freedom fighter, but in the end they become all politicians. Look to Tito, Yasser Arafat, Ho Chi Min, Franco and many many others...
These are the terrorists who succeeded
Re:But the target isn't the 'Interpol top 100' (Score:3, Interesting)
I know it's all Allah-be-praised on the propaganda side, but a frequent motivation for many suicide bombers (at least on the ground) is actually money. Umbrella organizations like Al Quaeda, Hammas and the like frequently offer a sizable payout to your next-of-kin for services rendered in the name of the jihad. So, you get the virgins, your mom and dad get lifted out of eternal poverty and god's will is done. Everybody wins!
But your comment is certainly not lacking in insight.. though I might suggest that since the almighty has consistently failed to rout the infidels from his lands, he might not be completely trusted with your safe passage through the TSA screening. Flashes of uncertainty and doubt may well run through the mind of the pre-martyr, and it's the facial evidence of these brief lapses which are the subject of interest.
Re:"behavior-detection officers" (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:"behavior-detection officers" (Score:3, Interesting)
My only concern with this is who is doing the behavioural profiling. A highly experienced security person that has undergone a comprehensive training program for behavioural profiling will be very effective. A typical US airport $10/hour "rent-a-cop" that sat through a boring badly designed half hour seminar with 200 others will be worse than useless.
Underlying principle is well-known (Score:3, Interesting)
Those who were better at spotting offenders commonly said it was 'instinct'. When observing those people at work, Rackham noticed that they in fact picked up verbal and non-verbal clues, (avoiding eye contact...), that could then be codified and tranferred to others via training.
TSA Training (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Yes, you are mistaken... (Score:5, Interesting)
You miss the point. In Europe, a "major protest" means
- shutting down a country's whole train system
- Shutting down a country's highway systems by blocking the roads with trucks or farm implements
- Shutting down a country's flagship university
- Rioting and arson all over amajor city.
The first 2 don't happen here because the country is just so damned large, no one can get a "nationwide" anything done. The third happens infrequently, on smaller campuses, but not over national issues - Gallaudet students shut down teh school for a few days because the proposed president wasn't deaf enough (really). As for the fourth, they happen - they are called riots and dealt with by police as criminal acts, not protests.
While Europeans talk about international issues a lot, their outlooks tend to be very provincial when looking at the US - they don't understand the size of the country ( I had relatives visit PA once who wanted to visit Texas because they thought it was a day trip), nor the political system, nor the people. In many ways, we are still the trash that they were glad to see leave in the great immigrant waves of the previous centuries - low class and low brow. Now that they are moving closer to political union with looser borders, they are getting a taste of our world - regional interests vying on a larger stage, immigration, and underclass of a different color, and an unaccountable leadership.
My ancestors left Europe for a reason; as far as I'm concerned, not a lot has changed except the lack of warfare for 50 years - an historical fluke which someone will remedy soon enough. I'm guessing Germany or France - you just don't shake Hitler or Napoleon out of the collective consciousness with the wave of a hat.
Re:Note to terrorist self (Score:1, Interesting)
Every time I go through these damn places (to Canada, mostly, which is the biggest offender IMHO), I seem to always get stopped. One particular time the Canadian customs person asked what I did, and I told her that I was a cardiac surgeon, and she *rolled her eyes* and pulled me to the secondary screening line.
I was livid, and obviously distraught by the time I got to the line, and just started verbally abusing the guards for their obvious incompetence, unprofessionalism, and perceived racial profiling. Their response was "USA is much worse with that stuff," further fanning my fury...
I had to tone it down a bit to keep from getting arrested, and I felt a bit bad halfway through because the guard searching my bag was different from the lady who rolled her eyes, and I could tell they were getting pretty shaken up from having this guy, rightly so, chew them out. Obviously they didn't find any contraband, let me into Canada. I wrote a complaint and description of the incident on hospital letterhead, and never heard back from the Canadian Customs authority.
Simply put, a snap judgemnt has close to NO sensitivity or specificity for this, and SHOULD NOT BE USED. A much better way to tell if I was lying is to ask, "From what vessel does the LIMA originate?" which probably only a cardiac surgeon would answer right away. This is what they do in Israel airline passenger screening for the majority of careers that a person could answer -- they also do this with geography (where you claim you are from) and things like this. This can detect lying -- somebody's transient "facial expressions" will not.
Cultural differences (Score:3, Interesting)
Does anyone know how culture factors in here?
Things that are expected to be "nice" in US culture is rude in others. Examples are looking someone in the eye. In the US, it is expected, while it is insolent in many other cultures. Not looking someone in the eye can mean disrespect, evasion, sneakiness,
This is going to be fun to watch, unless you are the suspect that is
Re:"behavior-detection officers" (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:"behavior-detection officers" (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:What is a terrorist facial expression? (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, I can tell you, when they ask you if you know how to *make* a bomb, and you say "I am a physics professor. I'm sure I know how to make a bomb," the searching and questioning intensifies. So you have to either lie to the police, or deal with the consequences of honest answers.
Yeah, But What If A Passenger (Score:2, Interesting)
. . . is wearing a burqa [wikipedia.org] or niqab [wikipedia.org]?
Seriously - how is that handled? Are they taken to a private room with a female TSA employee and made to remove it?
I hope so. . . Because I'm not getting on a plane with anyone who doesn't have to submit to the same level of scrutiny as the rest of us, regardless of their religious beliefs.
Re:And voting for "tax-and-spend" Dems helps? (Score:4, Interesting)
The plain and simple fact of the matter is that all of the proposed mandatory health insurance plans are just that: mandatory health insurance. The government is in no way going to "take over" healthcare and start running hospitals and put all doctors on government payroll. It is ridiculous to think we would just throw out our entire healthcare industry, as it is one of the biggest parts of our US economy.
What the government would do under some of the proposed plans is make health insurance mandatory. That means that every American will be insured. If they can't afford to pay the premiums, they get government help to pay (your tax dollars at work), but if they're working their premium is usually paid partially by their employer and partially by themselves.
The healthcare system stays the same. You can still pick your doctor, pick your hospital. The coverage is mandatory.
Quit spouting the republican FUD about the government taking over all healthcare. It will never happen. The republicans are trying to sell this image of countries like the UK who actually run their own hospitals and hire doctors. This is pretty inefficient, as we've already proven that capitalism works for things like this.
Most reasonable Americans would agree that everyone should have health insurance. The current system for poor people, which is basically, you wait until you're really sick, almost dead, then go to the emergency room for unscheduled, extremely expensive ($$$) healthcare, which you'll never be able to pay the bill for, doesn't work. What does work and is much less costly ($) is to have everyone insured, so that the poor people have the option of going to a regular doctor who might be able to find and resolve health issues early, before they become major emergency room operations that we all have to pay for indirectly (unpaid emergency room bills increase hospital costs, which increases the rate of all healthcare).
But far be it from the Republican and right-wing controlled media to tell you what the healthcare plans are really about. It sounds much more scary and gets more viewers to show some dingy DMV office with lines out the doors and say "POLITICIAN A WANTS TO TURN YOUR HOSPITALS INTO THIS! STORY AT 11!"
they will see murderous rage in my eyes (Score:3, Interesting)
I seldom make eye contact with TSA officers, police or other such 'people in authority'. Which is quite sensible since they would quickly see my ever so strong desire to cut them up into little pieces and feed them to sharks. I fucking hate these overgrown-schoolyard-bully morons. I do not exaggerate when I say that I would so happily kill any one of them without even a moments hesitation if the chance arose to do it without dying or going to prison. And all of my fellow Americans who want to keep this country headed right into the oh so super secure abyss of totalitarianism. F U. And please die. I look at these modern day SS officers with the hate and disgust that they so richly deserve. Seriously folks it's getting to the point where our government needs to go down. Hard.