Want to read Slashdot from your mobile device? Point it at m.slashdot.org and keep reading!

 



Forgot your password?
typodupeerror
×
Security Privacy

IRS Data Security Still a Concern 54

Lucas123 writes "Computerworld has a story about the possibility and the potential ramifications of an IRS data loss similar to the UK's recent mishap. According to one World Bank executive, it could have already happened, 'and we don't know about it.' While the IRS does offer data encryption to its workers, more than half of its 94,000 employees have permission to take taxpayer information to locations outside the IRS offices. In the 2007 filing season, roughly 128 million individual tax returns were filed. In addition to the basic personal information on those forms, an IRS breach could also jeopardize the banking information of the 46% of filers who requested direct deposit refunds. This is not the first time that IRS security has been called into question, and the Department of Treasury's progress in that arena is dubious. [PDF]"
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.

IRS Data Security Still a Concern

Comments Filter:
  • by rueger ( 210566 ) on Saturday December 22, 2007 @12:39PM (#21791326) Homepage
    ...more than half of its 94,000 employees have permission to take taxpayer information to locations outside the IRS offices.

    It seems to me that most of the data breaches from large corporations and government come from just this - employees taking data files out of the office and losing them. Why of why don't employers simply insist that data stays on the premises? Surely keeping data in a secure physical location is the first step to safeguarding it.
  • Re:Ron Paul... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Harmonious Botch ( 921977 ) * on Saturday December 22, 2007 @12:46PM (#21791374) Homepage Journal
    Parent presumably means removing the IRS.
  • by dbIII ( 701233 ) on Saturday December 22, 2007 @01:16PM (#21791576)
    In my case I had to take things as far as two members of the board to stop an accountant taking the laptop with the only functioning copy of the application that handles most of the financial information on holiday to Bahrain of all places (at the start of the recent Iraq war). People really think these things are their own personal possessions and are convinced that they will not be stolen even if they leave it unattended on a beach in another country.
  • by AHumbleOpinion ( 546848 ) on Saturday December 22, 2007 @01:26PM (#21791646) Homepage
    In my case I had to take things as far as two members of the board to stop an accountant taking the laptop with the only functioning copy of the application that handles most of the financial information on holiday

    I hope your board members recognized the four more important problems as well. Your top five problems:
    (1) Management allowed (2), (3), (4), and (5).
    (2) The accountant allowed (3) and (5).
    (3) You have one and only one system capable of running a critical application.
    (4) This critical application is not being run on enterprise grade hardware.
    (5) The accountant wanted to take the system on holiday.

    If your board only addressed the laptop/holiday add:
    (0) Board allowed (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) as appropriate.
  • Direct deposit (Score:1, Insightful)

    by whois_drek ( 829212 ) on Saturday December 22, 2007 @01:27PM (#21791654)

    an IRS breach could also jeopardize the banking information of the 46% of filers who requested direct deposit refunds
    How could this happen? If I remember my last tax form correctly, I just put my account number and bank routing number on it. Getting this information doesn't allow an attacker to withdraw any money. Perhaps it gets them one step closer, but it's a small step.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 22, 2007 @01:27PM (#21791658)
    The biggest risk is not the IRS itself, but rather the e-file cabal of the IRS plus the companies that process and reformat your data for submission to the IRS. For instance, the TurboTax privacy statement [intuit.com] and full text [intuit.com] both promise certain steps, but there are gaping holes. Intuit keeps a copy of an e-filed return for at least three years, yet does not promise that the storage is encrypted. Data transmission from you to Intuit is encrypted (via 128-bit SSL), but some returns sent from Intuit to various agencies are NOT encrypted during transmission. Intuit claims that other companies providing services to Intuit may not use your data, but that does not prevent a breach if some employee does not follow the rules.

    And of course any subpoena, court order, or National Security Letter presented to Intuit has full access to all your data, including aggregation (database "join" on SSN, phone, address, etc.) with various data brokers who market their services aggressively to Department of Homeland Security, etc. With the IRS itself you have some protection; with the e-file cabal you nave none.

  • What happens? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by madsheep ( 984404 ) on Saturday December 22, 2007 @01:42PM (#21791752) Homepage

    Forget the U.K.: What happens here if the IRS loses our data?
    Hmm, I don't know, not a whole lot? Just using the number of publicly reported data breaches and privacy information losses, I would just work on the assumption someone has this data already. It's not like there aren't dozens of websites where someone can pay $15 and get all this same information anyway. What's the best you can really hope for? That they give you a free year of credit monitoring? Maybe they'll fire someone or penalize them? Who knows.. I just say work under the assumption someone has this data already. What are you doing right now to protect yourself?
  • by kwpulliam ( 691406 ) <kevin@pulliam.gmail@com> on Saturday December 22, 2007 @01:44PM (#21791762) Journal
    How exactly will 46% of filers banking information be comprimised? -

    From TFA "That translates to a lot of personal and banking details maintained by the IRS." - Those banking details are the same ones you hand out every time you write a check.

    The information included on the return for direct deposit is 'exactly' the same information printed on the front of a check in human readable format.

    If ANY of those households paid with a check to any retail establishment (where the clerk probably makes less than $10.00 an hour) then they have already released this information themselves.

    I understand data security and the problems of taking confidential data out of the workplace, but the banking details portion of this story needs to be taken with several grains of salt.

    Just because you have a banks routing number and a checking account number, this does not mean you can turn that into cash at an ATM.

  • by innerweb ( 721995 ) on Saturday December 22, 2007 @01:46PM (#21791772)

    A question and you are likely to get 10 different answers that may or may not be correct.

    How the IRS is allowed to operate the way it does is beyond me. How the tax laws are allowed to remain so confusing and frustrating is beyond me. But, obviously it is not cost effective to those that matter to fix it.

    If the tax laws were cleaned up, then maybe IRS employees might be able to handle many more individuals per specialist. If the tax laws were cleaned up, then maybe the IRS would be able to do all of its work at work. Just maybe.

    InnerWeb

  • Re:Ron Paul... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by darjen ( 879890 ) on Saturday December 22, 2007 @03:58PM (#21792610)
    If the income tax was also abolished, there wouldn't be a need for administration and inforcement.
  • Re:Ron Paul... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by vertinox ( 846076 ) on Saturday December 22, 2007 @06:49PM (#21793588)
    Or we could just abolish money. That's just as practical and reduces the level of complexity in our society immensely.

    Really? I'm pretty sure you've never looked at a tax form before.

    The problem is that the IRS was created to solve a problem (social security) which will be a moot pint in 50 odd years unless something else is done.

Real Programmers don't eat quiche. They eat Twinkies and Szechwan food.

Working...