Man Hacks 911 System, Sends SWAT on Bogus Raid 754
An anonymous reader writes "The Orange County Register reports that a 19 year old from Washington state broke into the Orange County California 911 emergency system. He randomly selected the name and address of a Lake Forest, California couple and electronically transferred false information into the 911 system. The Orange County California Sheriff's Department's Special Weapons and Tactics Team was immediately sent to the home of a couple with two sleeping toddlers. The SWAT team handcuffed the husband and wife before deciding it was a prank. Says the article, 'Other law enforcement agencies have seen similar breaches into their 911 systems as part of a trend picked up by computer hackers in the nation called "SWATting"'"
Proxy (Score:3, Interesting)
How does this keep happening? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Good grief (Score:5, Interesting)
It's all fun and games until someone gets shot for resisting arrest?
Re:Good grief (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm afraid that I'd have to disagree with this. At least compared with normal officers, SWAT is indeed trained to shoot first.
This can be considered acceptable if SWAT usage is restricted to high risk situations, where not using these tactics is likely to result in more deaths, but some areas have them serving most of the warrents - even on unarmed, non-violent dentists moonlighting as bookies [washingtonpost.com].
Re:Good grief (Score:3, Interesting)
Consider that you could probably make $30,000 per year as a bus driver. You would have to rob at least 5 banks per year to come close (No taxes
An average 'tech' job probably earns you more than the most active bank robber.
Re:Drugs (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Good grief (Score:3, Interesting)
felony murder (Score:3, Interesting)
It was called "the felony murder rule" when I first heard of it years ago.
It means, simply, that you are responsible for any deaths, from any cause, that were set in motion by your criminal misconduct. You abduct a child who suffocates in your closet, or a woman who goes into a diabetic coma.
It is reckless endangerment, raised to the n(th) power.
Re:Good grief (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Good grief (Score:3, Interesting)
Or maybe some of think its fun.. read this, you'll be sick. http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w10.html [lewrockwell.com]
Re:Would not have been murder (Score:3, Interesting)
No, but the legal standard used in most places is not whether or not you EXPECT harm to happen, rather whether the harm is a reasonably foreseeable consequence of your action. Most juries would agree that sending armed officers to a house in the night represents a pretty predictable and finite set of outcomes, some of which involve violence (whether to the resident or the police).
So, for example, if you rob a bank with a toy gun, you're obviously not intending to shoot someone, but if the security guard shoots at you and hits an innocent bystander, you'll be charged with that death because it was a reasonably foreseeable consequence of waving what appeared to be a weapon in front of an armed guard.
False positives bad, false negatives diabolical (Score:1, Interesting)
If you have something specific in mind, you can use this scenario:
1. WHILE (police_responded EQUALS true) DO:
Trick the 911 system into saying "home invasion in progress at [location]".
2. ???
3. Profit!
So it plays out something like this.
1. You trick the 911 system like this dumbass, and report [crime] at [location].
2. The police respond to an apparently legitimate call (false positive).
3. You trick the 911 system again, to give exactly the same reading as before. (Better would be slightly different calls at the same address, but let's keep it simple.)
4. The police suspect something, but respond anyway (false positive).
This proceeds, until eventually the police begin ignoring the false alarms (true negative). Now you have a location and a crime that you are absolutely sure the police are going to ignore. If this doesn't strike you as sinister, you have too much faith in humanity. So eventually, you arrive at:
5. You commit [crime] at [location].
6. The police ignore the call, because they've been getting nonsense calls all week at this place (false negative).
Re:Good grief (Score:3, Interesting)
I really doubt that, where'd you hear it? I wouldn't be surprised at all if they're asked to swear an oath, but I doubt that it included:
'I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.'
Why is it that the NYPD and US Marines hold joint training sessions in the practice building down at Floyd Bennet Field?
Probably because as a result of the drug war, gangs and such are almost military forces; presenting the police with the same problems?
Room clearing is pretty much the same, whether you're a marine clearing a building overseas or SWAT clearing a drug house.
Up here in ND, I know the Minot Police department, and the Ward county sheriff's office work closely with Minot AFB. The local bomb squads work with the people on base. It makes sense to share training and facilities sometimes.
Now, while I don't necessarily object to the existence of SWAT, I DO object to their usage for every little thing; you had many areas stand up teams where they may only get a truly SWAT worthy task once a year or more, yet said SWAT team costs money continuously. In an attempt to justify the costs they end up using SWAT where normal officers would be better - such as the city who uses SWAT for all their warrants.
In many of these areas they'd probably do better to take some regular officers and give them extra training - pick one of the better shooters to double as a sniper if necessary. Pick a few of the others to learn how to use a MP5, M4, or other assault rifle/submachine gun and advanced building clearing tactics. Those officers get a little extra pay in exchange for being 'on call' for the serious stuff.
Re:Would not have been murder (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Good grief (Score:3, Interesting)
Unless they're black. [wikipedia.org] Funny how that works.
Re:Good grief (Score:4, Interesting)
I think this guy [wikiquote.org] said it well: