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Homeland Security's Tech Wonders 138

Lucas123 writes "The multi-billion dollar budget of the Department of Homeland Security has spawned a myriad of new, whiz-bang technology that includes things like keychain-size, remote-controlled aerial vehicles designed to collect and transmit data for military and homeland security uses. It also includes infrared cameras that capture license plate images to match them in milliseconds to police records. "Seventy percent of all criminal activity can be tied to a vehicle," says Mark Windover, president of Remington ELSAG Law Enforcement Systems, which is marketing its product to 250 U.S. police agencies."
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Homeland Security's Tech Wonders

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 23, 2007 @12:51PM (#20720039)
    Now we will see crime drop just like it did in the UK when they installed their cameras!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 23, 2007 @12:58PM (#20720083)
    How is stuff like correlating license plates to crime, or flying small recon drones around, helping catch terrorists? According to the Director of National Intelligence, Michael McConnell, the best thing Washington could have done to prevent the terrorist attacks in new york was to have listened to FBI agents when they repeatedly warned that Zacarias Moussaoui was acting suspiciously, and repeatedly requested search warrants (http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=3621517&page=1 .) Homeland security should be doing research about how to prevent bureaucratic incompetance.
  • by Nomen Publicus ( 1150725 ) on Sunday September 23, 2007 @12:59PM (#20720087)
    But where does one direct all this "wonderful" technology? There is a myth that seems to infest these new fangled security organisations, that if only they can gather sufficient data they will be able to identify and prevent bad things happening. They cannot, but are willing to spend huge amounts of money in the attempt.
  • by mister_woods ( 949290 ) on Sunday September 23, 2007 @01:08PM (#20720159) Homepage
    It looks like the same track is being followed as in the United Kingdom, where we host the world's largest collection of CCTV cameras, not to mention cameras to catch speeding motorists, read registration plates, etc. Whilst it may give a nice warm glow of reassurance to those who believe the propaganda, does all this gadgetry do anything to reduce the amount of crime as opposed to the fear thereof? Not really: CCTV cameras, for example, have blind spots in their coverage. Technology is being used as a fig-leaf to cover the fact that the powers that be cannot or will not use the presence of humans patrolling in uniforms as a means of catching or deterring ne'er do wells. Technological fixes seem to be preferred too since they do not require wages, meal breaks, holidays or other such luxuries which drain the public purse.
  • hmmmm (Score:5, Insightful)

    by phoenixwade ( 997892 ) on Sunday September 23, 2007 @01:12PM (#20720203)
    Seems to me that it isn't the huge budget of the department of homeland security that's pushing these innovations, it's DARPA, the same group that has been pushing everything from AI (with cool desert races) to the internet.....

  • by Aglassis ( 10161 ) on Sunday September 23, 2007 @01:15PM (#20720231)
    Homeland security should be doing research about how to prevent bureaucratic incompetance.

    I like this sentence. It sends me into a trance every time I read it. I think it is because I imagine the DHS trying to perform this research and ironically getting nowhere. Then they try to research why their previous research got nowhere. When that gets nowhere they decide to research why the research of why their previous research got nowhere got nowhere and so on.
  • Revolution. (Score:0, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 23, 2007 @01:18PM (#20720255)
    Revolution.
  • by khasim ( 1285 ) <brandioch.conner@gmail.com> on Sunday September 23, 2007 @01:18PM (#20720263)
    Pop quiz, in the USofA are there:
    #1. More terrorists?

    #2. More crooked cops?

    Now, which of these is this new surveillance technology supposed to protect you from and which ones will have it?

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/conductunbecoming/ [nwsource.com]
  • Re:hmmmm (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ScrewMaster ( 602015 ) on Sunday September 23, 2007 @01:20PM (#20720281)
    Maybe, but that's what we pay DARPA to do, when you get right down to it.

    People come up with nifty toys all the time. It's part of living in a high-tech society. The problem comes in when law-enforcement substitutes ineffective technological measures for quality police work.
  • Buy Now! (Score:1, Insightful)

    by hlomas ( 1010351 ) on Sunday September 23, 2007 @01:45PM (#20720475)
    All for the low, low price of your personal freedoms!
  • by im just cannonfodder ( 1089055 ) on Sunday September 23, 2007 @01:48PM (#20720489) Homepage
    You are joking aren't you, security cameras have this week been proved ineffective in solving and preventing crime!

    http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=10804 [pcadvisor.co.uk]

    i know in my home town that police men on the beat has been completely stopped since the introduction of the blanket cctv coverage in my town but on Friday and Saturday nights shop windows in our high street get smashed and parked cars vandalised, and the drunken fights are now not stopped as no police attend, so who exactly is watching and when the police are approached to obtain footage to find the criminals ppl are always told the camera was facing the wrong way!
    they're an excuse for cutbacks in the police force that fail to work and are abused when the are.

    the only day i have seen cameras on our sea front move is when there was a rescue day (coast guard ect) and the cameras were pointing out to fecking sea, not watching the crowd!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_7000000/newsid_7007400?redirect=7007418.stm&news=1&bbwm=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&nbram=1 [bbc.co.uk]
  • by Newer Guy ( 520108 ) on Sunday September 23, 2007 @02:28PM (#20720827)
    Problem is, toys can't replace common sense or good old walking the beat crime fighting. Besides, many more people get killed in a month from car accidents then all that got killed on 9/11. I'll also bet that property damage in a year from those accidents far exceeds the property damage done on 9/11. Yet we spend BILLIONS on terrorism, and practicallly nothing on making cars safer (in fact, the cars of today are less safe-look at how well the bumpers don't work on new cars). Or, look at health insurance. If they put those billions into making sure the 30 million uninsured people in this country had health care, many more people would live then died on 9/11. Look, I'm not trying to devalue what happened on 9/11. It was terrible! BUT our priorities are really f**ked up! The military can't fix the big problems in this country. We need to use our money on basics, not toys! I don't know about you, but my money pays for food and lodging for my family before I buy a wide screen TV with it. Of course, Halliburton isn't in the health care business either.
  • by superskippy ( 772852 ) on Sunday September 23, 2007 @03:10PM (#20721127)
    It's America. 70% of all American life can be tied to a vehicle. It's practically illegal to go anywhere without driving....
  • by ThatsNotPudding ( 1045640 ) on Sunday September 23, 2007 @03:52PM (#20721425)
    then we will all be free.

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