Why "Upgrade" To Office 2007 598
walterbyrd writes "IMO: Office-2007 is a contender for the least useful upgrade in the history of computing. It's expensive, has a steep learning curve, and it's default format is even less compatible with anything else. Stan Beer discusses the "upgrade" in his article: Question: why do I need to upgrade to Office 2007?."
More rows in excel (Score:4, Informative)
Well.. (Score:5, Informative)
It supports saving/loading backwards compatible formats too...
It also had a surprisingly low learning curve for me, despite the vastly more accessible UI it seems to have than 2003 with its menu jungles.
Re:Don't you mean downgrade? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:I want my 1 minute back (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I've already upgraded.. (Score:4, Informative)
The ability to open large datasets in Excel, instead of having to use vim to figure out what the structure is. I'll be pleasantly surprised if the rest of the features aren't a step backwards, but it'll still be worth it the next time I have to figure out why SAS is choking on some huge text file.
Re:More rows in excel (Score:5, Informative)
The total number of available columns in Excel
Old Limit: 256 (28)
New Limit: 16k (214)
The total number of available rows in Excel
Old Limit: 64k (216)
New Limit: 1M (220)
Total amount of PC memory that Excel can use
Old Limit: 1GB
New Limit: Maximum allowed by Windows
Number of unique colours allowed a single workbook
Old Limit: 56 (indexed colour)
New Limit: 4.3 billion (32-bit colour)
Number of conditional format conditions on a cell
Old Limit: 3 conditions
New Limit: Limited by available memory
Number of levels of sorting on a range or table
Old Limit: 3
New Limit: 64
Number of rows allowed in a Pivot Table
Old Limit: 64k
New Limit: 1M
Number of columns allowed in a Pivot Table
Old Limit: 255
New Limit: 16k
Maximum number of unique items within a single Pivot Field
Old Limit: 32k
New Limit: 1M
I will probably install Excel 2007 but nothing else. The conditional formatting alone should be worth it. Once you really understand it, you can quickly do some very useful things.
Re:As an employer? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Informative)
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA1016
I will upgrade for ONE reason (Score:2, Informative)
Re:I've already upgraded.. (Score:5, Informative)
Well (Score:5, Informative)
2) Want to see how a change will affect your document without changing it? Just put your mouse over a document skin or formatting and the document will temporarly "apply" the changes for you. The formatting will reverse to normal when your mouse is out of the area.
3)The new contextual spelling checker.
4)Building Blocks. Great time saver That's only from the op of my head, but of course if you are a average slashdotter MS could add *real gold* toolbars and you won't like it, so...
Re:I've already upgraded.. (Score:0, Informative)
Re:It's really no different than the previous upgr (Score:4, Informative)
Also see Word Viewer 2003 [microsoft.com], Excel Viewer 2003 [microsoft.com], Visio 2002 Viewer [microsoft.com], Word 97/2000 Converter for Word 6 [microsoft.com], etc [microsoft.com].
Disclaimer: This is not an endorsement of closed formats; rather, an alternative for staying software version/vendor-independent.
Just a Few Reasons (Score:5, Informative)
Not once has their response been "where is the file menu?" or "where are my icons?" Each time they've seen the ribbon and thought "Oh, that is smart!" They see how easy it is to change margins or add a Header/Footer and immediately want to know when they can buy it.
Will businesses think it's worth $400 per desk? If it saves that employee about an hour of time every month, because they can do tasks faster now, then it pays for itself quite quickly.
That's not mentioning how much *better* things look when created in Office 2007 using their new features. Have you seen the new shape rendering tools? Professional looking slides can be created in PowerPoint without the aide of the graphic design guys. Same goes for charts.
Employees will make better use of styles in Word, conditional formatting in Excel, all because the features are easier to find now.
People who boo-hoo Microsoft really need to sit down in front of Office 2007 for ten minutes and just check out its new features. Throw out your old ideas of menus and icons and just give it a try before you bash it.
Re:As an employer? (Score:2, Informative)
The program taught was Microsoft Works (whatever half-graphical version was then - 4.0 I think), and the lab notes were describing actions and the way they should be done. Most of the actions were to be done pressing one of the function keys. And the students had to memorize these actions (no mention of the menus, no description of the way you would search them, and so on)
Re:I Maintain That I Don't NEED It (Score:2, Informative)
Although there are changes to most applications (but not, disappointingly, the VBA Editor which Microsoft did not bring into line with the Visual Studio 2005 IDE) whether the sum of the benefits of particular changes in the individual applications is greater than the cost is an individual assessment based on your own usage of the new features.
My summary:
Actually that happened (Score:4, Informative)
If you're a business concerned about formatting (Score:1, Informative)
Unless you all have the same printers and drivers and so do your customers.
You'd use a press format like, say PDF.
Re:The reason to upgrade is simple and unavoidable (Score:3, Informative)
LaTeX [wikipedia.org] uses its own internal floating-point emulation based on integers to ensure the output will look exactly the same everywhere. Now, *that* is to think ahead.
Re:I'd argue the opposite (Score:5, Informative)
But since I work at Microsoft, I *would* think that, wouldn't I? So here's a concrete example. I think this rocks. You can make up your own mind.
I often build PowerPoint slide decks (I will refrain from making excuses for this; I have my reasons). I rough out a group of slides, then tweak them until they look good. In PowerPoint 2003, the way that worked was I would save the slides, then apply different styles until I found one I liked. On a large slide deck, each of these changes might take a minute or more.
In PowerPoint 2007, styles are visually applied when you hover. This is great, because it only applies to the slides you can see, which is a lot faster. So instead of applying two dozen different styles at a minute or more each, I hover over the style I'm considering and see whether it looks good. Once I see one I like, I click and apply it. The time drops massively from a 45 minute exercise to a 90 second experiment.
It doesn't take a lot of little things like this to start adding up. Office 2007 is full of them. Everything I do in Office is easier and faster and more intuitive. If you work with Office frequently, it's fantastic. If you use Office for an hour a month, and you don't really do much with it... well, you're probably not going to get anything really noticeable out of the upgrade.
Re:Here's a reason why you don't... Cleartype! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:well... if you're gonna switch, why not (Score:3, Informative)
It's called Impress, although personally, I feel both programs are over-used.
Re:I've already upgraded.. (Score:3, Informative)
Those that will whine about outlook, we do not use it we use a different groupware setup that does not lock us into Microsoft on the server side.
Mac compatibility re: pasted images (Score:3, Informative)
Dragged-and-dropped image files from the Finder are fine, as are those put in via Insert > Image. But, copy/paste is done far more often.
This has been going on at least as far back as Mac Ofice 98, and is still in v2004. All MS had to do was auto-convert the pasted image to whatever format MS normally uses (Windows Metafile perhaps; it's certainly not BMP or JPG). Macs, after all, have no issue viewing images pasted into the Windows versions of Office.
The "compatibility checker" in Mac Office 2004 doesn't catch this. Imagine an electronically-submitted assignment--the average Mac user has no clue it's broken, and another point goes to MS when the PC user thinks to himself ahah, Macs ARE less compatible!
Re:Upgrade options... (Score:3, Informative)
You can download a 60-day trial of Office 2007 right now, and one of those versions is the "$150 for three PCs" Student & Home edition.