No Anti-Virus in Vista 444
truthsearch writes "Microsoft will omit anti-virus protection in Vista, the next version of Windows. Redmond is promoting Vista as a landmark improvement in Windows security. Yet Jim Allchin also told CRN in a recent interview that there will be no anti-virus software. For unspecified business (not technical) reasons, Microsoft will sell anti-virus protection to consumers through its OneCare online backup and security service."
Two possible reasons (Score:5, Interesting)
2) To be able to sell the service on a monthly fee basis.
So OneCare = .Mac ? (Score:2, Interesting)
This only makes sense (Score:2, Interesting)
EU reasons? (Score:5, Interesting)
Firewalls, media players and other stuff is generally included in distros and the other commercial desktop OS (MacOS X) now. AV isn't. Therefore, it could seem intrusive by MS to include it. (On the other hand, we are all quite aware why noone else NEEDS to bundle that.)
I know we hate M$ here... (Score:4, Interesting)
Vista won't work (Score:2, Interesting)
Vista will sell, sure, but only because it'll come with every new PC. But I can't believe Joe User running XP will spend the money to upgrade to a new version of windows for "security" purposes. Not a chance.
Now, Joe Pointy-Haired-Boss may want to upgrade -- but his network admin will probably insist on sticking with the Win2k/ActiveDirectory system that is "good enough" right now.
Bottom line, Vista will be Microsoft's biggest flop since BOB.
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Re:So first virus in? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Way to spin it (Score:3, Interesting)
Selling an cantivirus application as an add-on is the way to go, and it looks like that's what they're doing. I still expect to see the other big antivirus companies complaining, especially if MS pimps their product in the OS install/setup procedure or in the help service, which I'm sure they will.
I use the free version of AVG on my PCs. It works well and doesn't dig its heels into places that it shouldn't, like a few of the big brand applications that I won't bother to name do. I'm suprised that there aren't any OSS solutions for antivirus and anti-malware on the PC. They would be very welcome. If there are some, please let me know.
Re:Damned if they do, Damned if they don't (Score:5, Interesting)
You certainly can't mean anything that is close to the default settings.
no antivirus in vista (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Two possible reasons (Score:3, Interesting)
Another reason (Score:2, Interesting)
Once an antivirus is bundled, chances are that the overall performance will fall.
Great (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Damned if they do, Damned if they don't (Score:2, Interesting)
However, I agree with your point about stock Dell boxes not being bulletproof. <sarcastic_tone> Of course, the Ubuntu CD managed to install a completely secure and totally configured environment on my machine without requiring me to know anything about what it was asking me. </sarcastic_tone> Yes, Windows has issues but Linux or Unix is not a mystically secure-by-default solution.
Both security models are fairly sane as far as I am concerned, but I'm afraid Windows wins hands-down for me in terms of networked permissions.
This is taking the piss (Score:5, Interesting)
Does Ford explicitly charge you for brakes? (Score:4, Interesting)
This is like car companies charging you for brakes or airlines charging a premium for not crashing.