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Spammer Gets $11 Billion Fine 478

Spad writes "It's not a typo, The Inquirer (amongst others) is reporting that an Iowa-based ISP has been awarded $11.2 billion in a case against spammer James McCalla, who was found guilty of sending over 280 million illegal spam emails. Under state law, the ISP was entitled to $10 per illegal e-mail sent. According to the Quad-City Times, McCalla has also been banned from using a computer for 3 years. From the article: "CIS acknowledged that it is unlikely to see any of the judgment money but said that it was time that spammers learnt that their actions would result in an economic death penalty"."
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  • Re:Bankrupcy? (Score:5, Informative)

    by dr_dank ( 472072 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @02:36PM (#14402241) Homepage Journal
    Are you allowed to declare bankrupcy if you owe money via criminal court order?

    Nope, judgements and federally subsidized loans cannot be discharged by bankrupcy.
  • Re:Bankrupcy? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05, 2006 @02:38PM (#14402268)
    its a civil order... not criminal. If it was criminal, it would be a fine to the state.

    And yes, you can go bankrupt and not pay your debt, depending on the judgement of the court, but he will have to surrender everything* he owns.
  • R.I.P. (Score:2, Informative)

    by dusik ( 239139 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @02:38PM (#14402272) Homepage
    I have no sympathy for this guy, and I nope the other spammers will take this as a hint. Every time I receive an e-mail offering me Viagra I take it as a personal insult ;)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05, 2006 @02:44PM (#14402335)
    This is from http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutsp elling/learnt?view=uk [askoxford.com]

    These are alternative forms of the past tense and past participle of the verb learn. Learnt is more common in British English, and learned in American English. There are a number of verbs of this type (burn, dream, kneel, lean, leap, spell, spill, spoil etc.). They are all irregular verbs, and this is a part of their irregularity.

    Now you learnt something else: Google is not an answer to everthing.

  • Not exactly... (Score:5, Informative)

    by flyinwhitey ( 928430 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @02:49PM (#14402391)
    "* LAWSUITS AND JUDGMENTS

    The filing of either a Chapter Seven straight bankruptcy or Chapter
    Thirteen debt adjustment immediately stops any lawsuits from being filed
    or judgments being taken against you. If a law suit is pending at the
    time of such filing, it can go no further. If a judgment has been
    taken, its enforcement can go no further. If a creditor has a judgment
    and is garnishing your wages, the garnishment can be stopped. Filing
    for Chapter Seven straight bankruptcy may relieve you of the obligation
    to pay the judgment. In a Chapter Thirteen debt adjustment, you may be
    able to satisfy the judgment over a period not to exceed five years. If
    the judgment has placed a lien on your home, that lien can be removed if
    it interferes with your homestead. If lawsuits or judgments are a
    threat or reality, the protection afforded under the bankruptcy laws may
    be an appropriate solution for you."

    It appears that in some states the law is a little different, but generally the answer is yes, you can file bankruptcy.
  • by rts008 ( 812749 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @03:29PM (#14402834) Journal
    From TFA (http://www.qctimes.net/articles/2006/01/04/news/l ocal/doc43bb692ac9e86281138542.txt#top [qctimes.net]): "Handed down by U. S. District Judge Charles R. Wolle on Dec. 23, the judgment also prohibits McCalla from accessing the Internet for three years." I'm not sure where the "not allowed to use a computer" got introduced here. :)
  • Re:Bankrupcy? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05, 2006 @03:32PM (#14402862)
    IANAL, but No. [turbotax.com]
    It looks like cancelling a loan as a gift is simply counted as a gift (incurring gift taxes) instead of straight income (as with an otherwise-forgiven loan). The first $11,000 is tax-free; the next $9,089,000 counts against the $1 million lifetime gift limit, and then gets gift-taxed.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05, 2006 @03:32PM (#14402866)
    CIS (the ISP) was asking for punative damages equal to the (original) statuatory damages, which the judge granted them. Plus RICO and the Iowa Ongoing Criminal Conduct Act allowed them to tripple the statuatory damages. So, instead of paying $10/email, they ended up paying $40/email. See the Court docs here [66.102.7.104].
  • Re:Bankrupcy? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05, 2006 @03:42PM (#14402973)
    You're probably thinkin of The Shawshank Redemption
  • by DigitalRaptor ( 815681 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @03:54PM (#14403091)
    I have 22,705 emails in my GMail inbox, and 9,925 in the spam box.

    I'm not overly impressed with the spam filtering. I have MANY false negatives, and too many false positives.

    I'd say I have 25 spams per day get through, about 100 that it filters correctly, and about 1 false positive per week.

    But as you can see, I get a lot of email (webmaster for a large ecommerce site).

    But, I still use it and like it. I ought to be better about training the spam, but marking the 25 emails as spam that get through is a chore. I use POP3 to read them in Thunderbird, and it catches most of them.

  • Re:Bankrupcy? (Score:2, Informative)

    by gunner2028 ( 922634 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @03:58PM (#14403110)
    Nope. Only the creditor can cancel the debt. Hence the relief from the sum owed is now considered income to the debtor. It is a potentially nasty revenge for the creditor.
  • Re:Through the ISP? (Score:3, Informative)

    by antispam_ben ( 591349 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @05:59PM (#14404305) Journal
    ...the Iowa court was told the defendants "falsely and illegally" represented that their e-mails originated from the CIS domain...

    Was the illegal act the fact that the emails went through the network or that the spam had cis.net in the return address?

    In other words was the issue that the spam was tying up CIS' network, or that the spammer was making them look bad by pretending to be one of their users?

    Any thoughts?


    I think neither, it's simily that the spam law, as written, forbids sending bulk commercial email with a 'deceptive' return address that wasn't the sender's. The return address could have just as well been public.com (bombed out of existence years ago by some spamware program having a hardcoded return address of friend@public.com) or example.com (the one domain name that's truly not available).

    If this guy didn't have enough legal troubles, CIS can now sue for civil damages for the reasons you just gave.

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