Hotmail To Junk Non-Sender-ID Mail

William Robinson writes "If your e-mail does not have a Sender ID, Microsoft wants to junk your message. Somewhere after November, MSN and Hotmail will consider it as spam. Sender ID is a specification for verifying the authenticity of e-mail by ensuring the validity of the server from which the e-mail came. Some experts feel that 'Sender ID' is not an accepted standard and has many shortcomings. Some also feel that Microsoft is trying to strong-arm the industry into the adoption of an incomplete and not accepted standard."

I can't seem...

[fyngyrz]

...to verify where this story came from. I'm sorry, it'll have to be rejected.

Brilliant Move Microsoft. I salute you!

[cmefford]

Been wanting to get friends to get off the hotmail bandwagon for years. As an isp, I'd be telling my customers to tell their friends who use hotmail to get on the stick and go to yahoo or gmail before november so their ability to communicate isn't cut off. Please note, SenderID and SPF are both bad ideas. SPF didn't start off that way. In fact it made a strange kind of sense. It was co-opted. The IETF marid working group archives are a great place to go read about how MS really helped screw the pooch. Hotmail and MSN orphaning themselves is probably a good thing in the long run. It's a shame though. And yes, I publish spf records, no I do not make use of them. They are not useful.

Yes but

[Colin Smith]

If we all buy Microsoft email servers it will be a standard, won't it.

It's only fair

[portwojc]

Hotmail and MSN will flag as potential spam those messages that do not have the tag to verify the sender

It's only fair cause we already tag mail from those domains as potential spam.

Re:GMail?

[kevin_conaway]

Out of beta? Hahahaha. Google has completely crushed the meaning of the word 'beta'.

Re:Stop using Hotmail

[ynohoo]

Quick check my address book for folks using hotmail... wow, I don't know anybody that stupid. What a relief!

That's good news... for Gmail

[Wolfger]

One invite already gone, 49 to go. :-)

Re:One little problem: MSN Messenger

[elf-fire]

Ah, the Google Alternative for Instant Messaging. The name finally makes sense! :)

Re:Brilliant Move Microsoft. I salute you!

[CokeBear]

So tell me again, what is the "got to have" feature of Gmail?

They're not evil.

No USE Hotmail

[jav1231]

I use 2 Hotmail accounts. The first gets NOTHING but spam. In fact, I have a rule setup that just deletes it all. I really should change that, but the idea that all that spam is impacting their server gives me a warm feeling. The other, I use for anything that I need to fill out. If it happens to generate spam or can I use that.
Look, I don't mind M$ doing stupid things like this. How big of a share does Hotmail have? Probably not much. The more people have problems with it the more they'll stay away. Even better! I live for the day M$ is reduced to an applications company. Where Windows no longer exists. Where THEY are dependent upon licenses from vendors. Total destruction would be nice but I can live with "just another player."
I'm convinced M$ is inherently evil. Like murder, molestation, Satan, Eminem. The world would be much better off without it.

Re:Stop using Hotmail

[surprise_audit]

I got 50 gmail invites to give away, if you know anyone that needs one... :)

Re:It's only fair

[dim5]

Hey, it's potentially not spam if you actually are in the market for an Italian Rolex.