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Apple Posts Security Update 2005-002 84

thelemmings writes "Today, Apple released Security Update 2005-002 for Mac OS X. It fixes a bug in the Java 1.4.2 implementation where an untrusted applet could gain elevated privileges and potentially execute arbitrary code. Sounds scary."
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Apple Posts Security Update 2005-002

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  • by caerwyn ( 38056 ) on Wednesday February 23, 2005 @02:26AM (#11753040)
    Oooh, a troll! Well, maybe I'll feed it anyway.

    Advertisers pay a certain fee to a website. That fee is either flat, or based on a count of click-throughs. If the fee is flat, then my blocking of the popup has no bearing on the website as a whole. If the fee is non-flat, and a large percentage of the website's visiting population objects to popups and uses software (browser or add-on) that blocks such, then the website will suffer and perhaps look for other adversting sources. Either way, I really have no bearing or guilt on the situation. I use the technology at hand to view the content I want. I signed no contract saying I must view pop-up ads- therefore, I don't at all feel bound to do so.

    Websites will adapt to the changing pop-up blocking technology, or fail as a result. Either way, it is not my responsibility, as I don't manage the website.
  • Re:Scary? Well... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by piltdownman84 ( 853358 ) <piltdownman84@@@mac...com> on Wednesday February 23, 2005 @03:47AM (#11753350)
    Can someone please explain to me something? I'm not trying to be a troll, but why is overwriting my documents/home/user directory seen as something minor?

    I always see people claiming that on Linux, OS X, xyz you are safe because your system can't get hurt, only your personal data. I personally care alot more about what is in my user directory than my system. If my system gets hosed I loose maybe an Sunday afternoon installing everything again, but if my user director goes im going to cry. I have several backups of what I have deemed as important data, but thats not everything, maybe half of my data. My mp3 files aren't backed up for example. Much quicker to instal an os, and the maybe 15 apps I use, than to re-rip 400+ cds.

    Am I missing something?
  • by jcenters ( 570494 ) on Wednesday February 23, 2005 @04:04AM (#11753391) Homepage
    I think the key issue here is that pop-ups (unders, overs, etc.) are just plain annoying.

    This might be one of the reasons Google is so worshipped on here: They introduced a form of web advertising (Adsense) that is clean, simple, low-bandwidth, relevent, and most of all NOT ANNOYING.

    The solution for advertisers is simple: If you want your ads to be seen, don't make the user WANT to block your ads.

    Sure, pop-ups and spam might make a good deal of money, but I think it would be better for everyone if advertisers instead tried implementing solutions that don't put them at odds with the customers.

    More people will click and buy the products, and the web will be an overall better place.
  • by Storlek ( 860226 ) on Wednesday February 23, 2005 @05:03AM (#11753551)
    Excellent point; you hit the nail on the head.

    Online advertisers are focusing too much on the short-term: get people to see the ad. Banners worked for a while, then everyone started ignoring them, so they went for more annoyingly sized and placed ads, popups, popunders, etc., which caught people's attention for a while. Then ad blockers came along, and suddenly online advertising came to a screeching halt as they tried to figure out how to get around them. Now they have, and look how quickly people are asking how to block the new popups.

    Most banner ads are completely useless, and I'm not missing anything by blocking. I don't need faster downloads and more local access numbers, and I don't care that I could win a free iPod by guessing which disembodied head is Britney Spears. Maybe if I had been looking at the homepage of some well-known overpriced dialup ISP, I would have greater than zero chance of caring that some other ISP is cheaper and faster; if I were reading a website about Britney Spears, I might want to get that iPod. Okay, the last one still wouldn't apply, since I already have an iPod, and don't like Britney Spears anyway, but that's beside the point.

    Other online advertisers should take a nice long look at AdSense, marvel in its simplicity and usefulness. I've seen online advertising grow up from the moderately tasteful small static banner image to the obnoxious beast that it's become and have never yet had any reason to click on a single one of them until AdSense came along and started providing relevant and interesting ads. In fact, oh-so-long ago, I didn't even know ad banners were clickable. I presume a lot of non-net-savvy people still don't realize it. This is another advantage of using text ads: people look at colored underlined text and equate it with "click this", whereas they see some out-of-place picture and mentally filter it out as irrelevant.
  • Apple Proactive? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Undefined Parameter ( 726857 ) <fuel4freedomNO@SPAMyahoo.com> on Wednesday February 23, 2005 @05:40AM (#11753684)
    Is it just me, or does it seem like Apple has a team of people working on *finding* bugs and security holes in OS X? Maybe it's just me, but the first I hear of a greater majority of problems with OS X is when Apple releases an update, which suggests that maybe Apple has something beyond a simple stress-testing beta team.

    Or maybe I just need more sleep.

    ~UP
  • Re:Go Go Apple (Score:4, Insightful)

    by @madeus ( 24818 ) <slashdot_24818@mac.com> on Wednesday February 23, 2005 @07:01AM (#11753942)
    This was fixed more than a month ago in Sun Java. Lame response time, Apple.

    A superior implimentation of a Java-like platform was delivered long before Oak, in NeXT's Objective-C. Lame implimentation, Sun.
  • Re:Link to thread (Score:3, Insightful)

    by geoffspear ( 692508 ) * on Wednesday February 23, 2005 @10:32AM (#11754982) Homepage
    Interesting. I imagine that if C++ had been the one with a $10,000 compiler, everyone today would be using Objective C.

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