China Closes 1,129 Web Sites

"The related departments have closed 1,278 illegal web sites and 114 sites promoting gambling, superstitious activities and cult propaganda according to the information provided by the informers. ... China's Ministry of Public Security rewarded a number of informers since China launched a nationwide campaign to crack downon the illegal on-line operations."

So how long...?

[FireFury03]

So how long until I can remove the block on a pair of CNLink's /20 networks from my firewall?

My web server was getting massively log spammed from them (even though I don't publish my web stats). The first time round I actually bothered to report the attacks to their abuse address but naturally got no response at all. So the second time I got attacked I had no choice but to just drop all traffic from both their /20's.

When will these ISPs realise they're shooting themselves in the foot by forcing everyone to just outright block their networks?

no... Re:In Communist China

[buswolley]

the internet kills you.

These people don't survive long in those prisons.

China oh China when will you give up, and be democratic.. so that you can kick our American financial butts?

Re:no... Re:In Communist China

[borgheron]

Seriously, God help the United States when/if they ever realize this.

GJC

Re:China Cracks Down on Freedoms...

[tacocat]

China

Migrating from Socialism to a Capitalistic Republic.

America

Migrating from a Democracy to a Capitalistic Republic.

Re:China Cracks Down on Freedoms...

[MrNemesis]

I'll see your American capitalistic republic, and raise you a corporate plutocracy.

Re:1984?

[yulle]

or "Ministry of Homeland Security"...

Re:China Cracks Down on Freedoms...

[DJTodd242]

...If this goes on...

Excuse me citizen. Nehemiah Scudder wants to have a word with you.

Re:no... Re:In Communist China

[Mattygfunk1]

The US wont need God, a prosperous (capitalist) China would be a good thing financially for all concerned. As for the military capabilities that wealth may bring - a change in foreign policy wouldn't be such a bad thing for the US at this point in time.

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Re:We are on the path now

[Rhone]

Just try to be a true radical online ( or in real life ) now, advocating for the next revolution.. Outlining details techniques and equipment manufacture..

I'm always amused by comments like this on Slashdot. Come on--no government, however "free" the country is, is going to look kindly upon people who advocate overthrowing it. Just because a government was put in place by a revolution doesn't mean it would be perfectly happy with being overthrown by another one.

Gov't Represses Rights of Chinese People

[reallocate]

The Chinese people have the same rights as Americans or anyone else. We all have the same rights. The Chinese government simply represses the rights of its citizens.

It is both wrong an very dangerous to think our rights come to us as gifts from our governments.

Hegemon

[kir]

I learned a great deal from this book. (Note: By saying this, I'm not pronouncing this book as the bible on China. Don't box me in. Slashdot is good for that.)

• Hegemon: China's Plan to Dominate Asia and the World [tinyurl.com]

An excellent review can be found here [theotokos.org.uk].

Re:Whoa

[LordLucless]

Communism works in some smaller systems - like communes, for example. Or most families. I know my family never practiced a democracy. They key to communism working, it seems, is that those that give up their personal possessions for the greater good do so voluntarily - parents, people working together in a commune, etc. Trying to enforce communism on a group of people that don't want to live communally is what leads to trouble.

Re:China is freer in some ways

[PasteEater]

You can't speak out against the government (the more I hear angry, uninformed EU and US Bush protesters, the more I think I might actually enjoy that), you can't openly practice religion (what?? no Catholic priest child molesters, no Christian wackos and their 10 commandments plaques, no Muslim fundamentalists to kill me?), and you can't have websites that spread superstition. And this is bad... how?

You have removed choices for me and for everyone else.

Perhaps you would like me to pick out your clothes for tomorrow. Better yet, I'll decide what kind of car you drive (if I decide you get to drive a car at all) and then I'll figure out if you are worthy of...?

We each make choices everyday. Whether they *seem* like small or large decisions, would you like someone else to make those decisions for you?

Re:no... Re:In Communist China

[meringuoid]

China oh China when will you give up, and be democratic.. so that you can kick our American financial butts?

When India starts to surpass them. India has the same colossal population as China, but is less well developed; however, it is a democracy. If democracy really is economically advantageous, India should overtake China at some point. As we on /. are all too well aware, the Indian IT industry is really doing well lately... That's when China will start to think about political reform - when their neighbour to the south is suddenly bigger than they are.

Re:It doesnt matter what China does

[Atrax]

Standard Christian theology teaches that hell is the default destination of every human being

what a thoroughly depressing little cult christianity is. "I'm going to burn for all eternity, and my only hope is to plead with some invisible entity and give shedloads of money to a priest with bad hair and bad breath to talk to me once a week? Screw that.

By the by, do you really believe non-living chemicals learnt to walk and talk all by themselves?

got a better explanation? Or do you buy the crap the creationists sell you?

All the prerequisites for a non-religious explanation clearly exist and can be proven to exist, whereas the loony version requires the non-provable.

Re:China Cracks Down on Freedoms...

[Krach42]

Not entirely. The US is a Democratic Republic. We are a democracy, just not as much a democracy as other governments.

Likely, China is a democracy. It just doesn't really mean much because the vote is so controlled. But they still allow *citizens* to vote. (Keyword: Citizen. If you define Citizen to be "white land-owning male" then you have early America, if you defined Citizen to be "member of the communist party" then you have what the USSR was)

This confuses the heck out of people when they're told that East Germany was "Deutsche Democratische Republik" (German Democratic Republic) Anytime I tell an American about this, they say, "But they were a communist state!" It just confuses people to pit Democracy against Communism. Because they're apples and oranges.

Re:China Cracks Down on Freedoms...

[redhog]

You do realize that one needs to eat, drink and have shelter to survive? Thus, living in a capitalistic society, trade to gain those things is not in any way volontary. And if you have little resources, and the one you trade with have huge ones, you _are_ oppressed. Physical force is just one type of force. Economical force is at least as important. For an example of that, look at the EU and the US. The US have a much stronger military force, but they still can not do whatever they pleases, but have to negotiate on more or less equal ground with the EU, as the EU do have as big an economy and an as important market.

Re:It doesnt matter what China does

[DrSkwid]

blah blah theology whatever, who cares, it's all bunkum.

By the by, do you really believe non-living chemicals learnt to walk and talk all by themselves?

Categrorically and without doubt. Belief not necessary. They did, ergo : they did.

Re:China is freer in some ways

[operagost]

In China, prison is where you go if you break the law. In the US, prison is where you go if you break the law and couldn't afford a top-tier lawyer to get you out of it (I am still wondering how Scott Peterson can be sentanced to death in the absence of hard evidence, yet OJ Simpson walks free).

In Communist China, law breaks YOU!

You must be joking. Just because China enforces their unjust, inhumane laws consistently does not make them superior. If you believed that, you'd be posting from *.cn right now. Oh yeah, Slashdot is probably blocked.

Re:Whoa

[Anonymous Coward]

You may wish to read up on the Cuban Missile Crisis [google.com].

What's the point of being 100% literate if what you read is censored?

A nice quote on Cuba: David Carr: "Who, in their right minds, would want to risk being eaten by sharks in order to get away from first-class health-care and education?"

Great healthcare? A myth really [canf.org].

From the Chinese POV

[Anonymous Coward]

There are over 1.2 Billion people in China. They have to do these things not to oppress the people (maybe in some aspects) but they need to control their population. The US has almost 300 million people, only a 4th of China's population. If China were to give their citizens complete freedom or the many freedoms we have in this great country, do you understand how much more corruption there will be? not only corrupt government officials, but widespread corruption and crime among its citizens. Being from a chinese background, I have visited China a few times and there is already great western influence happening over there. Slowly and slowly, China will give their citizens more freedoms, but if they were to give them too many freedoms, they wouldn't know what to do with them. Shutting down websites IMO is not fair, but not neccesarily wrong. So what if they shut down religious websites, why can't shiites, sunnis, jews, christians get along with each other. What if someone in Israel put up a website promoting islamic thought? would it get shut down? or flamed? I'm not sure, maybe this isn't a good analogy, but what i am trying to say is that, its happening everywhere, not just china.

China is a different land with a different culture, you must understand how people over there look out from inside the bottle while we are looking at it from outside the bottle.