Colossus has been Rebuilt 279
Max Driver writes "In celebration of D-Day, "Colossus", one of the earliest electronic code-breaking machines, has been rebuilt after ten years of effort by computer conservationists. Colossus was used to break the Lorenz cipher. This story is being reported by the BBC. Remarkably, the use of parallel processing (five tape channels) and short gate delay time (1.2 microseconds) allows the Colossus to match the speed of a modern PC."
Clever use of what you have... (Score:2, Insightful)
A tragedy (Score:5, Insightful)
Free information. (Score:2, Insightful)
Not really (Score:0, Insightful)
1) Most people in England still only have 486 computers
2) He's talking about deciphering stuff off a paper tape, something a modern PC can't do at any speed
3) An old guy bragging about life's accomplishments (which is okay).
Don't get me wrong, this is a brilliant technical advance for the 1940's, but not even close to modern computer. This is really pandering to a British audience ("Look mates, at once time, we were the leaders in computer technology!")
A modern PC could emulate it in physics! (Score:2, Insightful)
Er, this is an obviously ridiculous statement. A modern PC is such an order of magnitude faster that it could probably run equations simulating the circuit behaviour itself and still run real time. Compare 1,000 values at 1MHz (which it probably isn't anywhere near in reality), and a slow tape data input (even with 5 of them), to 10 million transistors at 3GHz.
Funny thing is so many people seem to think there's nothing odd about it.
Support Bletchley Park (Score:5, Insightful)
The code breakers in these small prefabricated huts probably shortened the war by two years and saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Surely us geeks can help save this site and remember their contribution? If you can't get there to volunteer, maybe use their online form and give them a small donation? Their website is going to be slashdotted at this rate, so how about slashdotting their intray with donations?
Re:A modern PC could emulate it in physics! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:A tragedy (Score:5, Insightful)
So it does seem the UK has a track record here...
Re:A modern PC could emulate it in physics! (Score:5, Insightful)
This is custom hardware designed for the job. MHz and GHz don't come into it. If you don't believe me, consider why the processor on so many graphics cards is slower than the CPU in the machine, yet without it, the graphics would grind to a halt. A modern PC is a general tool - Colossus wasn't, and was specifically designed and built to break crypto as quickly as possible. Now, if you were to try and run Pong on it, fair enough, you'd find it incredibly slow... but that's not what it's there for. Colossus would however easily crack Enigma codes quicker than your over-clocked P4. And it probably doesn't have as many neon lights in it.
Funny thing about slashdot - people seem to think they know all about hardware because they know the difference between a MHz and a GHz.
Re:Clever use of what you have... (Score:2, Insightful)
The challenge for each of us is to find a way to change the world with what we do.
At the beginning of my career 14 years ago flying home from my first big interview I talked at length with someone on an airplane about a literature, travel, educational background etc. he summed up his career with "I sell sunflower seeds for human consumption" although someone needs to do it I suppose, sadly many of us spend more than half of our waking hours on occupations no more inspiring.
Wait! Wait! there's a pattern here (Score:2, Insightful)
How do those Brits do it?
Re:Not really (Score:2, Insightful)
He never said they did. He just said that this would be an explanation of the performance claimed.
Any PC with a serial port can read a paper tape with a suitable paper tape reader attached (I've done this in the recent past)
I think he was joking, and using this to explain why a modern PC would be slower than a 60 year old valve based machine.
Better than a kid whinging on about things that he doesn't understand.
He wasn't. You were. It was a joke post to explain something that is apparently not the case. Don't take it so seriously.
Thats not what the article says. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Clever use of what you have... (Score:5, Insightful)
Some people don't have any aspirations beyond drinking beer and fishing, and no vision beyond determining what is for dinner. That is fine. Everyone has a purpose in the grand scheme of things, or if they don't, one will be issued to them at some point out of necessity. Perhaps raising children is their life's world-changing work, while their job is just that - a job to put food on the table. I know this might be a shock to you, but life does not have to center around your occupation; your occupation can be on the periphery.
The really free, self actualized people are the ones living under the highway overpass in cardboard boxes. The rest of us do the best we can with what we have, and what necessity dictates.
Speed of a modern PC (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Reminder: (Score:2, Insightful)
It's called clear, concise writing.
Re:Integrated CPU instructions (Score:3, Insightful)
Modern graphics cards assemble each frame from a collection of images, or textures, that are provided it. The GPU performs mathematical operations on these textures in order to orient them somewhere in the field of view.
If you performed all of the operations on the CPU, you'd not only be taking up instruction cycles, you'd have to transmit entire frames through the AGP bus. 1600x1200x24bytes works out to about 44Mb per frame. At 24 fps, that's about one gigabit per second. That's an awful low refresh rate. Let's raise it to 56Hz. Now we're at 2.33Gb/s, more than normal PCI. Let's go for a smooth 85Hz: Now we're at 3.54Gb/s. Let's look forwards to higher resolutions, say, 3200x2400@85Hz: 14.17Gb/s. More than the latest HyperTransport revision can handle. By this time, you've already crowded out hard drive and network access. Your sound might be in trouble too.
That's an awful lot of bandwidth. And don't forget the space on the CPU die, and cache pollution for other processes. And Memory latency, not to mention the fact that a lot of that memory could be used for other game data.
That's not to say there wouldn't be advantages. You could also conceivably perform physics calculations like collision detection and simple FEA.
All in all, though, it's more efficient to have a multiprocessor setup where specific tasks are run on specialized hardware.
Re:The ARM bombshell (Score:3, Insightful)
The ARM processor is a wonder of low power design!
Perhaps I will crawl back into the cave and stare at the shadows...
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